You know what the Flynn stuff is - it's the CIA

[Glitterati]

Trump pissed off the spooks.

They no longer need physical assination to do in a President.

Just watch the intelligence agencies take down this maladmistration.

This is just the first shot across the bow.

[Agschmid]

1. If they do it's a coup, and it should scare the shit out of you.

[unblock]

2. counter-coup, at worst.

[Glitterati]

5. I'm sorry, but they have a DUTY to out spies

Flynn's work is treasonous.

[pangaia]

17. Well republican congress-holes have a duty to uphold the constitution...yup...

That's working out well..

[HAB911]

3. no more than the FBI assisting Dump's election

is the enemy of my enemy my friend?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. I do wonder - how much was Comey and how much was the NYC FBI office. NY people were

the ones who were pissed off at Hillary/Clintons/DOJ. And, even the former NY head said that NY was about to out the Clinton/Huma deal and that is why Comey had to (so he wouldn't look bad)

The dossier spy said he sent the info on Trump dossier to FBI and never heard back. I thought I read he sent to NY...but then, couldn't find that again. Every article just said "FBI"

[PragmaticLiberal]

39. Yeah, I think this was more about Comey covering his tail than any animosity towards Clinton.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

53. but Trump rewarded him, huh. On one hand, Comey seems very un-savvy and weak. Not someone

you leave alone with the likes of Trump. On the other hand, he may feel bad about what the FBI did to Clinton, and end up being autonomous. Trump probably already knows about the NY office being the real power being the bunch. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

[brush]

10. Ahhh... the coup happened on Nov. 8th.

I'm all for bring the bumbling, orange pos down.

[Eliot Rosewater]

36. Indeed, and it was Putin who orchestrated it, took 35 years but it

paid off.

America needs to understand something else, these states where record numbers didnt vote for president but voted down ticket, including 70,000 mostly black voters in Detroit? No way, did NOT happen.

But, the people who stole the election are now in charge of investigating stolen elections, and they shut down the ONE government entity we could go to for this.

Fascists, who hate democracy, run the WH, House and Senate and the strings are in Russia.

[brush]

38. Absolutely. Like 75,000 AA voters stood in line to vote for hours and didn't make a mark...

for president.

The election was stolen. Plain and simple.

[lark]

12. Normally, hell yes.

This is not normal to have an actual criminal sexual assaulter and serial cheat as president. He makes Nixon look stellar. drumpf is in office due to a cabal of Russia and FBI colluding to that end. Getting rid of him is eliminating the Russian mole and truly needs to be done. R's are too much like him, care for nothing but power for the rich and will use any flawed tool to reach that goal. The only way they'd turn against him would be for the intelligence community to out drumpfs treason and let us hear and see the evidence and then they'd just install Pence. However, Pence, while domestically is a terrorist, won't kill the entire world by taking us out of NATO and end support for EU, thereby enabling Russian aggression and war on their neighbors.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

30. Yep. Agree 100%.

[The Blue Flower]

31. Completely agree

At this point, I'm thankful the CIA knows how to do this.

[we can do it]

51. I'm more worried that our election was interfered with.

[Glitterati]

4. CIA freezes out top Flynn aide

A top deputy to National Security Adviser Michael Flynn was rejected for a critical security clearance, effectively ending his tenure on the National Security Council and escalating tensions between Flynn and the intelligence community.

The move came as Flynn’s already tense relationships with others in the Trump administration and the intelligence community were growing more fraught after reports that Flynn had breached diplomatic protocols in his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the United States.

On Friday, one of Flynn’s closest deputies on the National Security Council, senior director for Africa Robin Townley, was informed that the Central Intelligence Agency had rejected his request for an elite security clearance required for service on the NSC, according to two people with direct knowledge of the situation.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/mike-flynn-nsa-aide-trump-234923

[Trust Buster]

6. The CIA has no statutory oversight powers. Sessions and the Republican controlled Congress does.

Trump will merely claim that the CIA is lying in a coup attempt. The Right wing media will parrot him. The idiot's base will see it in terms of a conspiracy. We live in a different country today folks.

[Agschmid]

11. Yup.

[pangaia]

18. I fear you are right....

The only hope maybe is if the CIA.. and whatever other spies there are,.... the courts and the MILITARY join forces to bring the cabal down...

[Stinky The Clown]

7. Bet on it! And this is just the start.

[Glitterati]

8. Exactly

Just the beginning. The Trump regime is in for a world of hurt.

[3_Limes]

9. And so aew we, unfortunately.

I'll be as glad as anybody to see 45 go. Esp. if it's to jail. But that creates a power vacuum of a type never experienced in the US. The entire administration would be compromised. How would we know where to stop cutting? Who will assume the Presidency? How will financial markets be stabilized against such unprecedented uncertainty.

There's really no good outcome here. Just different degrees of disastrous.

[Glitterati]

13. Agree

None of this is going to be good for this country, our economy or the world.

But, then again, neither is a Trump MalAdministration.

[BumRushDaShow]

14. "How would we know where to stop cutting?"

The nuts and bolts operation of the federal government is really run by civil servants, many of whom have seen quite a few Presidents come and go. The "bureaucracy" is still there with all the rules and regs in place (some archived depending on how aggressive the current administration may have been with their welcoming committees).

[usaf-vet]

16. Well here a simple benchmark. Go back to the last 10 days of the Obama administration

Reset to that as a starting point. All government positions will be reinstated. All of Trumps "plants" must be consider 'fruit from the poison tree" and therefore illegitimate office holders. Arrest and prosecute all that a case can be made against.

THEN! THEN! fix our election system so it is secure and fair and un-hackable by the Russians or other political operatives. Go back to a voting system that is reliable and verifiable. If the same company that make bank ATM machines can keep those transactions honest there is no reason elections can be secure.

Realize that elections in this country ARE being stolen and the will of the people is being subverted.

[3_Limes]

32. You may be right about elections being stolen, but I think you're off the mark as to where.

It's not the voter credentialing, or the vote counting that determined the outcome of this election. The balloting process in the US is actually pretty damn solid. 45 is the guy that wants us to think that elections are 'rigged' on the back end, but they're not. It's the fake news, Russian hacking and propaganda, and maybe a crucially timed assist from the FBI director that put 45 where he is. Dealing with that is a lot more difficult than reinforcing an already sound balloting system, but that's where the problem is. Not with voting machines.

[2naSalit]

40. I don't the validity of the claim made above...

I am more inclined to think that they covered every opportunity to steal the election and have been planning this since at least 2000.

[mahina]

37. Hope you make that an OP.

Can't agree enough.

As an op, others will read and share, and move.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

56. This us what ought to happen.

Sorry to say I very much doubt it will. Too many rich and powerful basrards who stand to make out like robber barons in tRumpUSA.

[pangaia]

19. . Just different degrees of disastrous.

THAT is the intent of it all...however it happens...

[Ilsa]

33. And that would another goal of Putin: disruption of

our government operations and leadership, divisiveness among the population (whether it is by race, wealth, gender, religion, etc), and distrust of our leadership, no matter who is in control.

[notdarkyet]

34. I tried to talk people into not voting third party. I could see all this coming.

It's been dripping out since this summer, but no one did anything. It would have been best if rump were never elected, but here we are.

[annabanana]

15. Cheers, Agent Mike...

(note to newbies, Agent Mike is a spook who watches us always, and we like to believe he is more a friend of the Constitution than many of the administrations that come and go)

[roamer65]

21. Hi, Agent Mike.

Remember your oath to defend the Constitution, Mike.

[orangecrush]

48. perhaps we will get a nice Valentines day present...

[roamer65]

20. Leaks.

They ended Nixon's regime, and they will end this one.

[randr]

23. I'm guessing they have a lot more that is yet to be revealed

Need to stock on the pop corn for this one.

[Glitterati]

25. You are correct.

That's they way these folks operate.........they let it leak out a tiny bit at a time. Their end goal is to make someone like Flynn unemployable by anyone.

But, I do not believe Flynn is their only target. Just the first one......low hanging fruit.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Obviously though - they must not have an actual tape of any discussions though, right? If

they did, and it was incriminating - there would be some activity, right? How do they know he mentioned Sanctions without having a tape??

[Glitterati]

27. You can bet there's a tape.

and there's plenty more where this all came from.

This is just the beginning.

If not, the story would not have been released on a Friday evening.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

26. They are exposing the truth - since congress/Repubs will not: Russia installed our President

They are going to save this countries ass!! Russia gave the Presidency to some Russian puppet who has Russian agents in charge of national security!

[Glitterati]

28. Exactly

And it will happen slowly and with great determination to inflict the most damage to their intended target.

Flynn is just low hanging fruit.

[UCmeNdc]

29. No, Flynn just might be what the CIA thinks he is

Flynn could be an actual Russian mole. In this case it is not political it is strictly business.

[Eyeball_Kid]

35. Manafort, Flynn, Page, Cohen, Stone: Putin's network surrounding Trumpy.

I'd include Bannon, but he's special. I suspect that he'd love being a Russian asset if only he could remember to shave every day.

[Blue Idaho]

42. I have no doubt the allegations are true.

The spooks understand they have a role to play here and it's going to be death by a thousand paper cuts for the Trump regime. Along with Flynn we are also hearing more about the scandalous Trump dossier being confirmed. They are going to burn Trump, I only hope they take Pence down with him.

[Glitterati]

43. Flynn and Pence seem awfully chummy

Is there a history between them?

Flynn may serve as a warning to Pence that he better mind his Ps and Qs.

[Blue Idaho]

44. Dunno about that but

Pence stupidly rushed in to vouch for Flynn when this storm was just getting started. Let's hope he gets tarred with the same brush...

[Glitterati]

47. We can hope

Because I honestly think Pence is far more dangerous than Trump.

Yes, Trump is an idiot. Any doubt, just review his time in office already..........

But, Pence.........Pence is a very dangerous right wing zealot, with political experience.

[Blue Idaho]

54. Pence's record shows he has little respect for human rights.

The thought of him as President is chilling!

[orangecrush]

45. ...

[zipplewrath]

46. And Karl Rove is next right?

Haven't I lived through this before? The whole Valeri Plame thing? He was going to be perp walked in orange remember?

Nothing is going to come of this in public. The CIA exacts its price in secret.

[Progressive dog]

49. Some government employees are making evidence public

by leaking it to news media.

They no longer need physical assination to do in a President.

I'm not going to comment on your spelling, but I am curious as to where your ideas about the CIA come from.

[jeanmarc]

50. Hope Trump believes in Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy

Little Donald should be scared shitless if so.

[JHan]

52. Let's go back in time:

WALLACE: Secretary Clinton, I want to clear up your position on this issue, because in a speech you gave to a Brazilian bank, for which you were paid $225,000, we’ve learned from the WikiLeaks, that you said this, and I want to quote. “My dream is a hemispheric common market with open trade and open borders.” So that’s the question…

TRUMP: Thank you.

WALLACE: That’s the question. Please quiet, everybody. Is that your dream, open borders?

CLINTON: Well, if you went on to read the rest of the sentence, I was talking about energy. You know, we trade more energy with our neighbors than we trade with the rest of the world combined. And I do want us to have an electric grid, an energy system that crosses borders. I think that would be a great benefit to us.

But you are very clearly quoting from WikiLeaks. And what’s really important about WikiLeaks is that the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans. They have hacked American websites, American accounts of private people, of institutions. Then they have given that information to WikiLeaks for the purpose of putting it on the Internet.

This has come from the highest levels of the Russian government, clearly, from Putin himself, in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election.

So I actually think the most important question of this evening, Chris, is, finally, will Donald Trump admit and condemn that the Russians are doing this and make it clear that he will not have the help of Putin in in this election, that he rejects Russian espionage against Americans, which he actually encouraged in the past? Those are the questions we need answered. We’ve never had anything like this happen in any of our elections before.

WALLACE: Well?

TRUMP: That was a great pivot off the fact that she wants open borders, OK? How did we get on to Putin?

WALLACE: Hold on — hold on, wait. Hold on, folks. Because we — this is going to end up getting out of control. Let’s try to keep it quiet so — for the candidates and for the American people.

TRUMP: So just to finish on the borders…

WALLACE: Yes?

TRUMP: She wants open borders. People are going to pour into our country. People are going to come in from Syria. She wants 550 percent more people than Barack Obama, and he has thousands and thousands of people. They have no idea where they come from.

And you see, we are going to stop radical Islamic terrorism in this country. She won’t even mention the words, and neither will President Obama. So I just want to tell you, she wants open borders.

Now we can talk about Putin. I don’t know Putin. He said nice things about me. If we got along well, that would be good. If Russia and the United States got along well and went after ISIS, that would be good.

He has no respect for her. He has no respect for our president. And I’ll tell you what: We’re in very serious trouble, because we have a country with tremendous numbers of nuclear warheads — 1,800, by the way — where they expanded and we didn’t, 1,800 nuclear warheads. And she’s playing chicken. Look, Putin…

WALLACE: Wait, but…

TRUMP: … from everything I see, has no respect for this person.

CLINTON: Well, that’s because he’d rather have a puppet as president of the United States.

TRUMP: No puppet. No puppet.

CLINTON: And it’s pretty clear…

TRUMP: You’re the puppet!

CLINTON: It’s pretty clear you won’t admit…

TRUMP: No, you’re the puppet.

CLINTON: … that the Russians have engaged in cyberattacks against the United States of America, that you encouraged espionage against our people, that you are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do, and that you continue to get help from him, because he has a very clear favorite in this race.

So I think that this is such an unprecedented situation. We’ve never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election. We have 17 — 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyberattacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin and they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing.

WALLACE: Secretary Clinton…

CLINTON: And I think it’s time you take a stand…

TRUMP: She has no idea whether it’s Russia, China, or anybody else.

CLINTON: I am not quoting myself.

TRUMP: She has no idea.

CLINTON: I am quoting 17…

TRUMP: Hillary, you have no idea.

CLINTON: … 17 intelligence — do you doubt 17 military and civilian…

TRUMP: And our country has no idea.

CLINTON: … agencies.

TRUMP: Yeah, I doubt it. I doubt it.

CLINTON: Well, he’d rather believe Vladimir Putin than the military and civilian intelligence professionals who are sworn to protect us. I find that just absolutely…

[CousinIT]

55. That's what I was thinking when SHitler first started insulting them. DUMB thing to do.

They'll TAKE. HIM. DOWN.