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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow to take down Milo?
His followers are extremely aggressive and growing in numbers. Is there a known method to undercut the sort of Blind hatred he provokes?
Or do we sit by and hope they burn out?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/11/republicans-tout-milo-bill-bid-restore-free-speech/
Initech
(100,068 posts)The best thing to do is to not invite him anywhere. UC Berkeley was just another incident of the hate he brings and invites. Sure that one spiraled out of control, but it was their side doing the looting and rioting. He thrives on hate and only gets stronger. He'll cry free speech if you don't invite him places, but that's just it - don't invite him places, tell him you're not welcome here, and the troll will eventually go back to his troll cave. That's it. Stop the hate and you stop him.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Warpy
(111,255 posts)Eventually somebody is going to connect the dots with the violent protesters and tie them to various right wing groups.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)JI7
(89,248 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)If he shows up? Dont go. Put out flyers that say to boycott the event and hold another event nearby with plenty of weed.
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)He's Coulter on steroids, nothing more.
Initech
(100,068 posts)Even negative attention is attention for them, like what happened at UC Berkeley. Don't give them any attention and they will go away. It's as easy as that.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)Why give them the attention they want?
JHan
(10,173 posts)And to point out to his supporters his hypocrisy by challenging them and protesting. We're as entitled as he is to Free Speech.
His problem is that he wants to be treated with privilege and his gaslighting is done with the purpose of normalizing his neo-nazi propaganda.
Milo isn't interested in the free speech of others, he's only interested in it for himself. He uses intimidation by trolling to silence dissent, and is always pushing the myth that people like him are "persecuted".
Meanwhile we have the real silencing of dissent like the GOP attempting to criminalize protest, Trump's global abortion gag rule, Warren being silenced on the Senate Floor, the swiftboating of those who dare criticize RWNJ's and other forms of whatabouteries RWNJ's employ for their false equivalency arguments.
The best way to deal with Milo is to expose his hypocrisy - his own tactics reveal he hates free speech.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)and don't quote that Washington Times rag on anything.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,112 posts)The Black Bloc may well be the physical presence of people like Anonymous. Or the groups that fought Nazi's.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/02/02/what-black-bloc/97393870/
Richard Spencer was clocked by one such person at the Inauguration. It is a pleasure to watch. And I hate violence.
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)with names and dates, us without any language basis. The professor, who knew we were overwhelmed, said, "You have to figure out who are the really (big, most important) names are. Like, in the American Civil Rights period, who is really big and who is Lester MATTOX."
Easier said than done covering 5000 years. This Milo is hatefully annoying, in the category with O'LOOFAH and countless others, but there are bigger, really BIG fish.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Most of the guy's so-called appeal hinges on the presumption that he enrages this mythical left-wing pro-censorship thought police to try and shut him up.
Challenge him to a debate, an actual debate predicated on actual ideas--- that's much better.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Remember when the Aryan Nation tried to set up a compound near Coeur d'Alene?
Protestors ended up suing them and getting all the land
https://timeline.com/white-supremacist-rural-paradise-fb62b74b29e0#.gfw2pdlex
That is, until Victoria and Jason Keenan came along. In July of 1998, the same month as the first Coeur dAlene parade, the mother and son were returning from a wedding, driving a dirt road that ran alongside the compound, when their car backfired. Aryan Nations guards, intoxicated at the time, mistook the sound for gunfire and chased the Keenans, shooting multiple rounds at the car and eventually running it into a ditch. The Keenans were then held at gunpoint and beaten with rifles.
When reports of the assault surfaced in local media, SPLC co-founder Morris Dees went straight to Idaho to provide Norman Gissels legal team with all the assistance it needed. A suit was filed in 1999, and in 2001 a jury ruled that Butler and the Aryan Nations had been grossly negligent in failing to supervise and control the activities of its guards. The jury awarded $6.3 million in damages to the Keenans. Butler was bankrupted, and the compound became the property of the defendants.
The land was worth roughly $225,000, Gissel says. But they brought back a jury verdict of six million dollars. And the difference between $225,000 and six million is functionally a political and cultural statement of how angry that jury was that they did these things to the Keenans and by a larger extension what these people had done to North Idaho.
The Keenans donated the compound to North Idaho College, which turned it into a peace park.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,112 posts)I'm out of touch with the intellectuals out there countering Nazi talk. There was Christopher Hitchens. Maybe Stephen Frye? Is there somebody else? I feel it needs to be another Brit.
Would Yiannopoulos dare admit to these beliefs on national television? He goes auditorium to auditorium, selling books, sowing hatred and causing a lot of real pain.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,112 posts)I just Googled and stumbled on this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1329916/Stephen-Fry-sparks-Twitter-row-foul-mouthed-attack-student.html
"After a series of public blunders, Stephen Fry might have learned to be careful what he says.
But the actor has tweeted his way into fresh controversy after he branded a Cambridge University student who wrote briefly about him - a 'cynical ignorant f*****'.
Fry, 53, attacked student Milo Yiannopoulos, 27, after he suggested the celebrity was 'opportunistic' for offering to pay the fine of a man sacked for posting a joke on Twitter."
It goes on...