Oklahoma Lawmaker Wants Men To Approve Abortion, Calls Women "Hosts"

[CousinIT]

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“I understand that [women] feel like that is their body,” he told the Intercept on February 8. He continued, saying that he prefers to call women “hosts”:

I feel like it is a separate — what I call them is, is you’re a ‘host.’ And you know when you enter into a relationship you’re going to be that host and so, you know, if you pre-know that then take all precautions and don’t get pregnant. So that’s where I’m at. I’m like, hey, your body is your body and be responsible with it. But after you’re irresponsible then don’t claim, well, I can just go and do this with another body, when you’re the host and you invited that in.

Should the bill be passed, women would have to start getting men’s permission for abortion starting November of this year ― it would also join Arkansas on the list of states that let other people interfere with a woman’s federally protected right to abortion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oklahoma-lawmaker-wants-men-to-approve-abortion-calls-women-hosts_us_58a1eaf5e4b094a129ed7fac?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Here's another arrogant male who thinks he knows what's best for women. HOST?

Fuck him, and not in a good way.

[Xipe Totec]

2. No, don't fuck him. Please, anything but that. nt

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. I said: NOT in a good way!! n/t

[Xipe Totec]

11. ;) nt

[malaise]

10. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahaha

DUzy

[NutmegYankee]

12. Hey, it doesn't have to be with a human part. Maybe it's a 50,000 Volt cattle prod?

Super Glued to ON.

[brooklynite]

3. Technically, hostesses...

[raccoon]

5. And if this bill passes, these men should be required to pay child support and be garnished if he

doesn't, and they should be required to pay at least 50% of college. (IME, non-custodial parents
usually don't want to pay jack shit for college, and even in red SC they aren't required to, unless it's
in the divorce agreement.

[procon]

6. Let's work with that... every "host" has the right to demand a "guest" to leave, yeah?

Maybe he thinks real women are actually pod people from a sci-fi flick.

[CousinIT]

14. +1 n/t

[Croney]

7. What if there is no man to ask?

Or what if there are more than one? It boggles the mind.

[loyalsister]

8. Or what if it's daddy?

Or, daddy's rapist pedophile business partner? Or what if it turns around and the man tries to force her to get an abortion? I think there are no limits to the dehumanizing scenarios possible.

[LisaL]

13. And how would they know if the man is actually the father?

Are they going to require genetic tests of the fetus?

[Wounded Bear]

20. That's the point...

It's not about babies, it never was. It's about controlling women's sex lives.

It's time for the recent political wakening of progressive women to flex their muscles.

[shenmue]

9. The fuck is this shit?

[Eliot Rosewater]

32. This is the result of 3rd party voters, stay at home whiners.

Russian coup and 868 polling places closed since the voting rights act doesnt really exist anymore.

[tallahasseedem]

55. I was scrolling down...

and your post about summed it up.

I have no damn clue.

[Solly Mack]

15. If I'm a host that makes the fetus a parasite, feeding off my body causing me potential harm

so that parasite has to go.


And that was the politest thought I had about the truly needs to do the world a favor and die-out already Justin Humphrey, and his entire ilk.

[MANative]

21. This was exactly the thought that crossed my mind. Nt

[Solly Mack]

33. If we go by his logic, that's what we are left with.

Fetuses are parasites.

[smirkymonkey]

36. Hear, hear!

God, assholes like this should just be shot. They are entirely useless wastes of oxygen!

[Solly Mack]

38. I prefer the term self-raptured. :)

They should all self-rapture themselves.

The world would be a better place.

[Behind the Aegis]

41. Actually, there is some truth to that statement.

To wit: an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense.

My state in a sad way. Between shit like this, raising taxes on utilities, defunding education, and a host of other piss poor decisions, Oklahoma is going doing the drain...quickly. What's the Matter with Kansas? will be rewritten as What the Fuck, Oklahoma?!

[Solly Mack]

42. I know. This isn't the first time women have been called hosts.

It comes around every so often and I always respond the same - parasites. Because, well, they are.

I live in Louisiana, so I can't really brag.

What's the Matter with Kansas? will be rewritten as What the Fuck, Oklahoma?!

LMAO

[redstatebluegirl]

16. Welcome to my backward state.

[erpowers]

17. Victorian Era Thinking

I was once told in a college English class that in the past (I think the Victorian Era) women were not considered real people. It was believed that women did not have souls. I/the class was told that during that time period it was believed that women only had souls when they were pregnant. After the baby was born the woman no longer had a soul.

[avebury]

18. Then women should have a contract drawn up whereby a man has to

sign away any right to dictate to the woman that she cannot have an abortion. No signed contract, no sex.

[crazycatlady]

19. Donate to Planned Parenthood in his name

[VOX]

23. Excellent idea! n/t

[sarcasmo]

22. Next up. Oklahoma passes bill 89.29292 The Make me a sandwich Woman law.

[dem in texas]

24. Forced Child Birth

I would like to see this term used more often when talking about the pro-life, anti-abortion crowd. Look how they throw around the term - partial birth abortion when talking about late term abortions. A late term abortion is a rare and terrible thing, usually doesn't happen unless there are serious heath issues or medical emergencies. So let's use a hateful term for the pro-lifers -supporters of forced child birth.

[CrispyQ]

31. The 13th Amendment & Abortion

The Thirteenth Amendment reads as follows:
1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
jurisdiction.
2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by
appropriate legislation.

Why don't pro-choice groups focus on this argument?

My post on the issue with interesting link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8641121

[Tumbulu]

48. In my discussions on the subject , this is exactly what I bring up

And lately, I am calling for women to sue men for $$$$$$$$$$ if forced to produce a job for unpaid wages ( should pregnancy be forced upon her). So sick of this!!!!!!!

But you put it more eloquently!

[tanyev]

25. Welcome to The Republic of Gilead.

[eleny]

45. It's the first thing that comes to mind, for real

[Bettie]

26. So, as far as he's concerned

women are no longer people if they are pregnant, they are simply "hosts".

Amazing.

[Mariana]

53. That's exactly what these loons seem to think.

They rail on and on that the government shouldn't make medical decisions for people, then they lobby like hell to have government make medical decisions for pregnant women. It follows that they don't consider pregnant women to be people.

[Bettie]

54. And yet, they'll go on and on

about personhood for fetuses, embryos, and fertilized eggs.

But women, fully formed, breathing on their own, contributing to society women are not people.

Idiots.

[ck4829]

27. Host as in the biological term? Wow.

[Warpy]

28. He just declared women to be nonhuman, perambulating incubators

with no inherent rights of their own. Declaring half the human race to be non human and undeserving of civil rights is an overreach even Hitler didn't attempt.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

29. How many times do I have to say it?

If you don't believe in abortion, then don't have one. Period.

[demtenjeep]

30. so women would need to seek their rapist permission?

what a load of shit

this don't have sex if you don't want a baby shit has got to stop

an aspirin between the knees doesn't work when one is forced and beaten

[Orrex]

40. Yes, even if the rapist is a family member

Time to party like it's 1899.

[lark]

34. Fuck him!

Why the hell should any man, whether he is the sperm donor or not, have a say in what happens to any womans body? Releasing a teaspoonfull of material into my body gives them no rights of ownership. They gave up their sperm voluntarily and I can do with the results what works best for my life, not his. I am no host, the teasppon of material doesn't over-ride my brain and assume more rights than me! I hope the other legislators there are smarter than this for the sake of the women of that horrible state. My sister lived there for 9 years and absolutely hated it.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

35. Regarding Women's Healthcare: Prick says GTFO

GOP: Take precautions honey.

But you're making it tough to get my prescription.

GOP: What's that? Were you talking, dear? Not now, I'm busy.

[niyad]

37. more proof, as if any were needed, that these woman-hating gestational slavers do NOT see women

as human.

[Orrex]

39. Perhaps women should be given veto power over men's ejaculations?

They could refer to men as "donors."

[Doreen]

43. Think about it, he just said in his own way that

if a women gets pregnant by rape no matter how violent and how much she said no it is still her fault and needs to have the child. If a very mentally handicapped girl gets pregnant she is responsible for that decision even though she can't be responsible for figuring out she needs to brush her teeth on her own each day. If a 11 year old girl gets pregnant from daddy it is her fault and she must have her daddy's baby. OMG!!! What an ass.

[jmowreader]

44. If the woman is a "host" that would make the fetus a "parasite"

Not sure if I like the implication there..."parasite" implies something that should be removed every time it's found, and no one would suggest that.

[crazycatlady]

46. This is the law we need to counter proposals like this

A 'Men need to keep their dicks in their pants" law.

[emmadoggy]

47. So women only get pregnant when they are

"irresponsible". And our bodies are "hosts". Yes, empty husks. Merely vessels.

Says all I need to know about this piece of shit.

I really wish these neanderthals would crawl back to the dark ages where they belong.

[4lbs]

49. Well, it is Oklahoma. The state that has said it's ok for men to rape unconscious women because

they can't verbalize a "no".

[logosoco]

50. "pre-know" ????

Republicans are great at fucking up the language along with women's rights to their own bodies.

And I'm just going to put this guy down on that list of people who complain or interfere with others sex lives because they are unhappy with their own sex life or sexuality.

[secondwind]

51. What happened to telling the guy to keep it zipped? Why is it always the woman's fault? grr

[Iggo]

52. Oklahoma lawmaker can fuck right the fuck off.