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Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:17 PM Feb 2017

Does anyone agree there is a global epidemic of a lack of compassion?...(rant)

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This is somewhat off topic and a bit of a rant. Obviously I'm not saying anything new. "Life is tough and unfair" is probably about the oldest and most boring of all observations. It is a truth though. And I don't want to make it seem like I don't understand how much more tough life has been in the past on average. Talk about lack of compassion, try seeking sympathy for just about anything if you were born in the 16th century say. Nor do I want to make it sound like the left is at fault here. I actually feel the opposite most of the time. I just wish to highlight this as an issue, period.

That being said I don't feel that the argument that things have gotten better is an excuse to say that we don't have a lot of room for improvement.

This is not a problem unique to North America. Not a problem unique to conservatives. You will find cruelty no mater where you live, from the wealthiest most conservative homes in America, to the favela slums of the 3rd world. Both an easy life and a hard life can craft hearts of stone. But it's the former that I find most inexcusable, the latter most understandable, if not always palatable.

But this is not a thread about laying blame. I merely wish to bring to light something I feel we don't talk often enough about. We talk around the subject add infinitum. We blame the cruel and the companionless for their cruelty. And rightly so, the number of people spewing racism, xenophobia, bigotry, and cruelty is heart breaking.

But I feel in our riotous hatred for the messenger and the message we too often ignore those the messages are directed at. And in so doing we share a measure of blame in being compassionless ourselves. Not in actively throwing the stones, but in failing to comfort the target.

I have been purposefully vague up to this point about the subjects of said cruelty and compassion, because I wish to be as inclusive as possible. But suffice it to say, when in your life have you been at your own most vulnerable, most in need of compassion. What have been your "dark night of the soul" moments, and I use that term in its non religious context. What difference would a comforting non judgmental shoulder to cry on have made, if you did not have one? And I speak doubly so for those who feel least deserving of compassion but in truth most often in need. Those our society writes off the fastest, with the most brutality and dismissiveness. The alcoholic, the drug addict, the suicide survivor, the mentally ill, and more. I'm not going to get into an argument of whether showing compassion for some of these would be a form of enablement or not, that is outside the scope of this topic.

But these people and so many more are invisible in our society. Be they the immigrant mother working 2 jobs that the conservative writes off as trash. Or the drug addict on the street that even a liberal might write off as a lost cause. Again I'm not saying that liberals would on average, but merely to highlight the fact that it's not a right left issue solely. They are the ghosts that walk among us.

But they are people! They have lives. And emotions. And needs. And stories. And names. They have mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers. So often we relegate them to such a status of anonymity that they become invisible. EVEN by the well meaning liberals among us. We quickly chastise the conservative, correctly, for wanting to deport the illegal immigrants. But sometimes a more powerful act is not the loud dismissal of hatred, which don't get me wrong MUST be done, but the small quiet acts of daily kindness. We are so quick to scream at the billionaire, correctly, for not wanting to give his supermarket employees a 10 cent raise. So slow to treat the immigrant earning said wage, bagging our groceries, as a friend.

Sometimes the most powerful act is the smile, the "hay Miranda how are your kids doing?", The "hay man you look like you are suffering, is everything ok"?

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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
1. I'm not religious but it brings to mind...
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:21 PM
Feb 2017

..."Many are called but few are chosen".

Also,

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
3. I think it has always been this way.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:27 PM
Feb 2017

All the horrible events throughout history seem to point to human nature and that there have always been selfish, cruel, and uncaring people in the world. It could also be that modern times have become so stressful and difficult that it is causing people to exhibit these traits.

Maybe the stress of modern times is making people more selfish and callous. I don't know.
I find it hard to accept how awful some people behave toward others.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
14. Yep.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 12:16 AM
Feb 2017

And much more global news circulating to make people more aware of overpopulation and its implications. Worse for conservatives predisposed to intolerance.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
10. Indeed I realized that in my posting...
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:53 PM
Feb 2017

And gave voice to my knoledge of such in the first paragraph. I still feel it needs to be brought up, even if it is an old dead horse.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
7. OK, here's the thing...
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:42 PM
Feb 2017

Having compassion for people is good. Really, REALLY good. And yes, it's as sadly lacking now as it has always been. And TOTALLY, people should absolutely show one another more compassion. Yes yes yes.

But referring to people in need of compassion as "they" and "these people" - over and over and over again - just serves to keep some folks as 'us' and some folk as 'other,' and that feels... not so great, as one who falls often into the 'other' category.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
8. You are correct. However in part I did so to actually be inclusive...
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:51 PM
Feb 2017

I can understand why you feel the way you do. But that was not my intention. My intention was to be somewhat purposefully vague because I didn't want to highlight too many specific groups, although I do name some, because in so doing it becomes and argument about those groups. Instead I wished to have a discussion about lack of compassion in general.

Initech

(100,071 posts)
9. I've been saying since the election: we went from "hope and change" to "go fuck yourself".
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:52 PM
Feb 2017

And I wish this were just limited to America but it's becoming a global problem. It started with Russia and Crimea, then again with Brexit, then with Trump, and it looks like it might happen in France too if LaPen gets elected. We're living in dark times.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
11. A coworker told me I had a good job and a good life with my family
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:57 PM
Feb 2017

Apparently that is all I should worry about since that is all others worry about.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
12. A job is survival. What defines a "good life with your family" is entirely opaque to anyone but you.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 12:15 AM
Feb 2017

There is no such thing as a 'good job'. There are only jobs and people who do them. Robin Williams had what could arguably be considered one of the best jobs. Hell a lot of people who don't understand the human condition wouldn't even call getting paid millions a year to act, a job. But he was a tortured soul. I have met many a min wage worker who seem to have found the secret to living life happy. It certainly wasn't their job.

As for family. That's about a complex an emotional nut to take on as one could possibly ask for. What defines a happy family would be as opaque to your coworker as looking through a one way mirror. A hell of a lot of people even within a family are opaque to whether their lives, their families, constitute a "good" life, or family. That's the kind of thing that often only becomes clear in hind site.

At their base level, owning one or both of these things are questions of survival. Not of measures of happiness.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
15. Should have said this
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 12:34 AM
Feb 2017

This came up when asking me why I would attend a march. Caring about self is all some people know.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
16. You mean they couldn't understand your reason?...
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 12:43 AM
Feb 2017

You mean they couldn't understand why you would attend a march when you had a good job and a good family? Was this a anti-Trump march, or a Black Lives matter march, or something else?

Either way, yeah, I think I would have wanted to reply. Well, because I'm a good human being.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
17. The Women's march
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 12:50 AM
Feb 2017

Also, I shouldn't complain because "Trump really couldn't just stop abortions..." I did tell how it's happening, but.. This person hangs out with a lot of reps.

Being a good human being doesn't seem to be a positive point these days with some. People are too self-involved to care for others outside their own families.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
18. "Trump really couldn't just stop abortions..."? huh...
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 01:12 AM
Feb 2017

I suppose in that person's mind abortions had been legal for what? 100 years? Never mind they were basically illegal in most places before the 1970s?

I agree being a good human being just doesn't seem like something that is valued these days. Just like intelligence. Hell Trump is the epitome of this world view. People hold "strength" in higher regard than kindness. Never mind the fact that true kindness is often the real form of strength. It's easy to beat a criminal. Hard to forgive one. But history has shown time and time and time again that it's the later that leads to reform. Yes I'm oversimplifying that analogy I know.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. Gross income inequality worldwide has created a class
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 12:16 AM
Feb 2017

Of economically insecure voter. Those people are currently buying the argument of facist elements that are running in almost every country for public office.

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