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charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 04:52 PM Feb 2017

NYT reports Flynn may have lied to FBI as well

Another shoe seems to have dropped. The New York Times just reported that in the short window of time between President Trump's inauguration on January 20th and Acting Attorney General Sally Yates warning to the White House on January 26th, the FBI interviewed National Security Advisor Michael Flynn about his conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak on December 29th, 2016.

What the Times story does not say is what Flynn said. But the logic of the report certainly leaves the impression that Flynn was less than truthful. If that's the case, the Flynn's dismissal just went from being a political scandal to major legal jeopardy. You can't lie to the FBI and people are routinely (often too routinely) prosecuted for doing so.

In the Times words ...
F.B.I. agents interviewed Michael T. Flynn when he was national security adviser in the first days of the Trump administration about his conversations with the Russian ambassador, current and former officials said on Tuesday.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/big-trouble--7

If this is true, he may be facing felony charges.

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NYT reports Flynn may have lied to FBI as well (Original Post) charlyvi Feb 2017 OP
Now that'll be tough to run away from. ...When you practice to deceive... jmg257 Feb 2017 #1
And Comey may feel extra vengeful charlyvi Feb 2017 #3
Great point. Funny how all the shit floats to the top in DC. ugh. jmg257 Feb 2017 #8
My money is still on Comey coming out of this as a white hat. GliderGuider Feb 2017 #17
I'm hoping you are correct and am hoping for the same thing!!! TrekLuver Feb 2017 #24
She seems pretty bright. padfun Feb 2017 #50
Just can't believe that Comey can come out of this as a white hat. dhol82 Feb 2017 #47
I wonder if flynn will meet up with a man and an umbrella... asiliveandbreathe Feb 2017 #18
Flynn strikes me as the type that would charlyvi Feb 2017 #19
Yeah, Flynn is a real stand up guy no matter what else. Ligyron Feb 2017 #34
Ugh I hope not - but wouldn't be TOO surprised. jmg257 Feb 2017 #30
Thus, Flynn is going down as in flamingdem Feb 2017 #2
LOL! charlyvi Feb 2017 #5
Cut a deal, Flynn!! leftstreet Feb 2017 #4
He really should charlyvi Feb 2017 #11
will comey have a presser about this La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #6
Nah charlyvi Feb 2017 #12
What did Comey know and when did he know it? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #39
Rule no. 1---Never lie to the FBI Rustyeye77 Feb 2017 #7
I think he tried that for a while, charlyvi Feb 2017 #14
Didn't Martha Stewart go to prison for that? But she's a liberal, so... SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #35
Leavenworth or a polonium milkshake. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2017 #9
Beautiful, isn''t it charlyvi Feb 2017 #15
As a retired Lt. Gen. he is subject to court-martial. nt pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #10
Either way, I think his troubles have just begun. charlyvi Feb 2017 #13
I expect him to lie to protect Trump. nt pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #16
Not anymore. triron Feb 2017 #40
Doubtful... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #29
He remains subject to recall under UCMJ pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #31
Yeah, I didn't think of that.... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #32
Even apart from UCMJ cases, lower-ranked officers can be recalled by service branch chiefs pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #49
I wondered about that SCVDem Feb 2017 #43
Do they still have a firing squad for treason? dhol82 Feb 2017 #48
Really?! I thought that ended when someone retires or is discharged. Who would decide... Hekate Feb 2017 #52
It's up to the service branch chief--in his case, the Secretary of the Army pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #53
Oh. My. God. Hekate Feb 2017 #55
LOCK HIM UP!! LOCK HIM UP!!!" nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2017 #20
My fear is that Trump will pardon him. drm604 Feb 2017 #21
He's crazy enough to do it. charlyvi Feb 2017 #22
He may do it to protect his own butt. drm604 Feb 2017 #25
True that charlyvi Feb 2017 #44
If we only had an actual Attorney General CanonRay Feb 2017 #23
You mean instead of the KKKeebler elf? pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #26
The old-fashioned expression GallopingGhost Feb 2017 #27
the FBI should be able to spot a liar when they see one, they all have an R after their name! putitinD Feb 2017 #28
But but but malaise Feb 2017 #33
That's a crime. LOCK HIM UP! nt Kahuna7 Feb 2017 #36
tRump said he only hires the best, believe him, he said, only the very best. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #37
Martha Stewart went to prison for.... mrmpa Feb 2017 #38
After all, they aren't emails. charlyvi Feb 2017 #45
Can someone explain to me pecosbob Feb 2017 #41
Because they think they are breaking the law for America. charlyvi Feb 2017 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2017 #42
That's prison time! Grins Feb 2017 #51
one can hope spanone Feb 2017 #54
 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
17. My money is still on Comey coming out of this as a white hat.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:06 PM
Feb 2017

I'm siding with Louise Mensch on this. She is convinced that Comey's Counter Intelligence group is actively and cleanly investigating Moscow Mike. That's a different group from the New York Fieeld Office that is penetrated.

Here's her reasoning:
https://patribotics.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/dear-mr-putin-lets-play-chess-louise-mensch-trump-russia/

I have yet to see anything she has been wrong about. She might be, of course, but her info (e.g. her scoop on the FISA warrant) has been good so far.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
50. She seems pretty bright.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:37 PM
Feb 2017

Thanks for the link. It is bookmarked to see what she said compared to things that come out over the Congressional Investigations.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
47. Just can't believe that Comey can come out of this as a white hat.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:31 PM
Feb 2017

Too many dirty dealings with the compromised New York office.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
18. I wonder if flynn will meet up with a man and an umbrella...
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:06 PM
Feb 2017

Just how much does he know - and do the Russian feel somewhat ill at ease over the canary scenario???

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
19. Flynn strikes me as the type that would
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:15 PM
Feb 2017

take himself out the Roman way. A la Frankie Pantangeli in Godfather II.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
34. Yeah, Flynn is a real stand up guy no matter what else.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:57 PM
Feb 2017

I hear he used to be a good soldier until some Islamic became radical.

He defiantly went off the deep end after that.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
2. Thus, Flynn is going down as in
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 04:54 PM
Feb 2017

prison time. What could possibly, ossibly lighten his sentence. Hmmmm... Canary time, sing it!

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
13. Either way, I think his troubles have just begun.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:02 PM
Feb 2017

I wonder if he will take the fall for Trump, or start naming names.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
31. He remains subject to recall under UCMJ
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:47 PM
Feb 2017

Retired generals have been recalled and faced courts martial before.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
32. Yeah, I didn't think of that....
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:50 PM
Feb 2017

And it would be nice to see him reverted to a Dishonorable Discharge. He's joining Ollie North on my list of most hated former military persons.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
49. Even apart from UCMJ cases, lower-ranked officers can be recalled by service branch chiefs
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:35 PM
Feb 2017

After 4-1/2 years in, the Army retired me as a Captain for partial disability. I was told at the time that even with 50% permanent disability, the Secretary of the Army had the authority to recall me to serve in an emergency. But I always figured they'd take the kids and the nuns first.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
43. I wondered about that
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:23 PM
Feb 2017

In another thread.

UCMJ! General Court Martial!

Filthy traitorous puke!

Airdrop him into Siberia.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
52. Really?! I thought that ended when someone retires or is discharged. Who would decide...
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:55 PM
Feb 2017

...to proceed, in that case?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
53. It's up to the service branch chief--in his case, the Secretary of the Army
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 08:45 PM
Feb 2017

Though Flynn is retired, he remains subject to recall for prosecution under UCMJ for life.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
22. He's crazy enough to do it.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:26 PM
Feb 2017

After all, Bush One pardoned a raft of Iran Contra traitors, but it was much later.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
44. True that
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:25 PM
Feb 2017

I'm sure he would much rather have the heat from a pardon than impeachment. You never know, though, since I've heard he hates the job.


mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
38. Martha Stewart went to prison for....
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:41 PM
Feb 2017

Lying to the FBI. That was in regard to stock trading. Treason isn't as bad so Flynn will get a pass.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
41. Can someone explain to me
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:11 PM
Feb 2017

why Republicans seem to think they're entitled to break the law immediately after they get elected? Or even before...

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