audit the fucking election.

[mopinko]

i am c/p an exchange between botany and i from another thread. we all want to know what could possibly right this wrong. this. this can right the wrong. i would swear on my children's heads.

Botany (42,860 posts)
19. How many down ticket races were flipped too?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/24/russians-suspected-hacking-wisconsin-dems/97023222/

POTUS, Vice POTUS, Supreme Court, the Senate, and not control of the House but
some House Races too.

We need new elections. This was a coup and we had treason.

mopinko (47,824 posts)
23. this is war. call in the cia,

have them examine the voting machines in every one of those "former obama" counties in mich, wis, fla, and pa. run a full forensic accounting on the entire thing in those counties.
i think they flipped these counties for the bully points. so they could call yo mama.

and btw, you know they were watching the vote. watching for any internet traffic, but they didnt have access to every machine.
but i think these counties are key.

Botany (42,860 posts)
24. Many moving pieces in the coup

Russia/Trump working together

Comey/FBI/Rudy G/Eric Prince

Cross Check and voter suppression

The unending and unneeded hearings into nothing as per HRC

********

We need an audit of the election.


mopinko (47,824 posts)
27. that should be our battle cry right now. audit the fucking election.

call in the cia. start w the surprises, duh.

and examine all provisional ballots. track those voters down and find out why they were not given a regular ballot. that is where voter suppression is documented. assume for every placebo ballot there are more voters who just left. or who knew they would face roadblocks at the polls.

from this thread-----------

The thing that burns me, really BURNS me about this Russiangate is that

Election fraud was commited. Hillary won. Hillary should be in the WH.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028652318#post33

[gopiscrap]

1. Absolutely

[brooklynite]

2. The Chair of the Ohio Party doesn't think it happened. Neither does the Chair of the NH Party.

Neither does Hillary Clinton

Neither does Barack Obama

Neither does Bernie Sanders

There are plenty of things to learn about this election. Voting machine integrity isn't one of them.

[Rene]

5. It's not the voting machine itself....it's the server and programming where they tally

the votes. that programming flips votes 'under the covers'......server is switched, very subtle/.
They should hand count.

[brooklynite]

7. Again...nobody actually involved in the election claims we lost because of vote flipping...

Republicans steal elections the old-fashioned way.

[mopinko]

18. those should be outed, too.

i think that they spread a lot of "walking around money" on their visits to pudunk usa. money from uncle pootie.

we need a full audit of all of it.
all of it.

[JudyM]

8. Do you have a link to any statement from Bernie saying that vote flipping didn't happen?

[brooklynite]

10. I can reasonably surmise that if Sanders thought overt vote hacking occurred...

...he wouldn't stay silent about it.

I've been given briefings about why we lost from people involved in the elections. Vote flipping was not part of the equation.

[JudyM]

11. Asserting he affirmatively stated a position is far different from "surmising." I believe the

opposite to be true, based on having worked closely with his campaign.

[lagomorph777]

3. Yup - so sick of the MSM claim (with ZERO evidence) that the election machines are fine.

No audit = no credibility.

[Botany]

4. I know Botany and I wouldn't trust him

Change.org

This week on the petitions you support



Petition to Secretaries of State
Demand An Audit Of The 2016 Presidential Election

[loyalsister]

6. Suppose there is an audit

and Hillary's popular vote win is wiped away? If it was rigged and there was evidence of massive fraud, wouldn't that also be called into question?

[Initech]

13. But they made the whole damn thing up!

I mean seriously the theory from the Trump camp is that "millions of people were bused in illegally" is completely absurd. Trump's claims of voter fraud abuse are going to blow up in his face Wiley Coyote style.

[loyalsister]

17. Are people just never going to get it?

The lie serves the purpose of making people feel insecure about elections. Crying for an audit plays right into their families hands. Their goal is to get people to support policies that suppress the vote. Because someone skeptical of the results should want to see "stronger safeguards."

[mythology]

9. Wisconsin had counties that were hand recounted and others

That were machine recounted. There was no statistically significant difference in votes being changed.

There is nothing to suggest the votes were changed. How is this any different than Republicans complaining about voter fraud with the evidence says the complaint is invalid?

[Greybnk48]

12. One of the shadiest results in the state of WI

was Outagamie County and the clerk REFUSED to do a hand count and examine the ballots. I live here and no one could understand why we weren't looking more closely at the anomalies. AND, none of our machines were examined either.

[WillowTree]

14. The election is OVER!

Really. It's over.

[mopinko]

16. doesnt mean we dont need a good forensic post mortem.

considering the surprising results, the anomalous results, we need more than navel gazing and embracing our rural brothers and sisters.
we need to know, w certainty, that this election is not tainted.
and if it was tainted only by propaganda, we need to be talking about that.

it is happening in france right now. their democracy needs to see that ours works.

[mopinko]

15. i am not just talking about vote flipping. i am talking about everything.

lets examine those placebo ballots, and look closely at who was suppressed where. start w those surprising former obama counties.
lets look at who got bumped by crossheck.

i want someone to examine where the cheeto sporkhands circus came to town in all those unlikely little places. is that where he supposedly pulled voters out of the woodwork?
i have been saying for a while that they werent so much looking for votes as they were for marks. for low level grunts who want an autographed pic w the president and a little walking around money to make sure the right judges hauled the ballots to the receiving stations.
regardless of where that money came from, tho we all know that.

i want someone to examine why so many voting machines in detroit malfunctioned. i want to know how so many precincts were "uncountable"

we never got the audit we deserved in 2000.
why is this different? because it involves a hostile goddamned foreign government that has installed a mad man in the people's house. that's why.

we need this if there is to be confidence in our entire voting system, from the league of women voters and the dmv personnel to the final tabulators. it all needs to be examined. and we need to get a handle on how many voters were blocked by their bullshit laws. we need at least some number. how many regular dem voters missed this election? are they still registered?

we dont even need to talk here about the propaganda machine and foreign powers. i dont care if that foreign power is canada. when results are a surprise, they need to be verified.
if we cant do that, we need a new hava.