Republicans have decided to fight back against Democrats' demands for an independent investigator.

[kentuck]

They are all over the TV today with their different spokesmen, mostly Senators and Representatives. Just tune into your cable news - I'm sure you will see one of them disputing the firing of Michael Flynn. The latest verse they are singing from says that Flynn had to be let go because "the President lost trust in him". Lying stacks of shit!

This is politics at its smelly worst. Here we are in reality, our democracy threatened by Russian efforts to affect our election, and the "patriotic" Republicans are playing politics. They don't give a big crap about our country. They took an oath to defend the Constitution but they didn't understand what it said? Because they are a bunch of dumbasses. Period. Exclamation point!

It's not the Russians we should be concerned about. It is those comrade Republicans that refuse to defend our nation from enemies attacking our voting system and other means of communication. Perhaps they do it out of ignorance? Surely, they are not such treasonous bastards to do otherwise?

(end of rant)

[manicraven]

1. Next year is the election and let's hope those that want our republic restored turn out in droves!

[WhiteTara]

2. Let's hope they are engaged in all ways in the process

as voters and as vote gatherers and as candidates.

[kentuck]

3. Let's hope we can make it to the next election?

The Republicans are acting like comrades singing from the same hymnal, willing to turn their backs, on the reality, of another country (Russia) imposing themselves into our electoral process.

They act like "America haters". We've heard their Comrade Leader's position already.

[Orrex]

5. I predict that every "remorseful Trump voter" will happily vote Republican again in 2018 and 2020

They'll either see it as a vote of principal to show that they still have faith in their sacred party in spite of Trump, or they'll be so impressed by Republicans who eventually pressure Trump out of office that they'll reward them with reelection. Or they might simply forgive Republicans for the whole thing, seeing it as a lapse but not enough to vote them out.

And this ignores the raw fact of the laser-precise gerrymandering that Republicans have engineered to protect their party loyalists.

[Skittles]

10. Trump voters are a lost cause

the very idea they voted for a mentally ill, unqualified, vile, disgusting man to be PRESIDENT

better to concentrate on getting the non-voters out there

[Orrex]

30. Good point

Trump had (and has) and endless string of failures, shortcomings and flaws that would have driven any serious candidate out of the race, but he and his cult of chumps thrives in that environment.

[Skittles]

34. I really get tired of hearing they didn't vote FOR him, they voted AGAINST Hillary

there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for inflicting that vile piece of SHIT on this great country

[blue cat]

43. +1

[Dustlawyer]

40. We need to make sure that Trump and Co., are a huge anchor

on their necks!!!

[Freethinker65]

4. The GOP is going down

Hurry up and pass your America destroying legislation and feather your own nests while you can. You are wasting valuable time on tv. Only your base believes you, and that is shrinking by the hour.

[Skittles]

11. correct

that's why Trump has been screaming FAKE NEWS (setting it up so he only talks to propaganda outlets) - all for the benefit of his idiotic supporters

it is PATHETIC

[MontanaMama]

14. I don't know if the R's base is shrinking by the hour or not...

but your post got a "Hell yeah!" yell out of me at work so I had to lay a heart on you.

[Freethinker65]

33. Thanks for the heart

Yeah, I guess technically the conservative GOP base will always be there. I do think the anti-Hillary MAGA "democrats" and independents that voted Trump and gave him the presidency are pulling their support in disgust.

[Achilleaze]

37. GOP cover up of treason & treachery will sink the party

those hypocritical assclowns are choosing their degenerate, infiltrated & compromised operation over the United States of America. This will not stand.

[Lifelong Protester]

41. He** yeah!!!

[kentuck]

6. Also, there is the possibility...

that something is coming down the road already and the Republicans have been told about it. It's maybe coming from some intelligence agency, maybe even the FBI?

So their plan is to go on TV and try to soften the impact of the blow? Minimize the danger in the Russian hacking into the DNC's computers and attempting to influence our elections.

It's a possibility, I suppose?

They are making a valiant effort to rescue the dying carcass of a one-time great political Party.

[pecosbob]

17. I think valiant is a poor choice of words to describe what they are doing

[kentuck]

18. That was a best-case scenario.

[KT2000]

7. According to Claire McCaskill

if anything they want the investigation in the Intelligence Comm. so it can be done in secret. Independent investigator means we get to see what is going on.

[kentuck]

8. Then, the best "spinner" wins.

Even a draw is a win.

[pansypoo53219]

9. good. turnip is THEIR tar baby now. THEIRS. YOU OWN HIM GOP!

[red dog 1]

12. "Parallels to Watergate are eerie" says former Clinton campaign manager

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016178049


Of course, the big difference here is that, unlike in the Watergate scandal, the Republicans control both houses of Congress..so it's entirely possible that we'll NEVER get an "independent investigator" for this scandal.


K&R!

[kimbutgar]

13. Party over country

They care more about their party then they do about this country. Sickening.

[ProudLib72]

15. I can't even begin to comprehend why there is this question

of who gets to investigate. Of course the entire RNC is under investigation. Of course several congressmen are under investigation. It SHOULD be independent. Why are they even allowed to have any say? Of course, our intelligence agencies don't give a crap who wants what kind of investigation. They are just going to keep leaking and leaking until there is no one left to resign.

[lagomorph777]

20. "intelligence agencies don't give a crap who wants what kind of investigation"

Exactly. And once the tapes start leaking out (no doubt many featuring Congess critters) they may begin to appreciate and rue the full magnitude of the Patriot act.

[gerryatwork]

16. Russiagate

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=russiagate&defid=11045493

[murielm99]

21. Let's not call it a -gate.

Let's find a new, catchy phrase to define this unprecedented situation.

[Achilleaze]

38. TraitorGate does it for me

It is evil to be a republican traitor to America.

[Volaris]

19. Because they know they are complicit in this peaceful coup.

Treasonous fuckers.

[pecosbob]

22. It will look pretty bad for Slumlord J Littlehands

when all his esteemed foreign business contacts are shown to be foreign intelligence assets.

Why is that Republicans are such comically bad crooks? They're like the burglar that falls asleep on the sofa in the house he's robbing.

[Dan]

23. You don't understand them

it is not about treason, or anything like that. It is about power, pure and simple. The GOP does not give a damn about the nation, the people in the nation, or anybody except the top 1%. What the GOP wants more than anything is just to hold onto their power. That silly thing that is derived from the people (except with the Gerrymandering, they really don't need the people anymore).

[gratuitous]

24. The President lost trust in Flynn

Yeah, being a Russian agent will do that to a guy, especially one serving as the National Security Adviser. The trick question, naturally, is why did President Trump still have Flynn hanging around when he's known for weeks that Flynn was compromised?

[malaise]

29. Did you hear Groper Don the Con on Flynn today

he didn't sound like he had lost trust - he blamed the media and the 'leakers'. He said Flynn was a great man

[Eyeball_Kid]

31. Because Trumpy is a Russian asset. He and Flynn think alike.

They both like being associated with Putin. They're both heavily attracted to raw power.

[world wide wally]

25. Republicans may not be treasonous bastards, but they are far from patriots when it comes to personal

gain or empowerment.,.. and certainly not above treason to achieve them

[Eyeball_Kid]

26. Republicans have to see that they will lose seats if they whitewash these investigations.

The best way to avoid that perception is to form an independent commission.

But the GOPers have to see the risk of holding power over this kind of information.

[mchill]

27. Just saw Jeff Flake being interviewed by Jake Taper

It was so sad and depressing. He said "we have a full agenda we are dealing with," like all of this Trump Russia stuff was interfering. He then said "we all need to move on" and "I think Trump has moved on by firing Flynn" (didn't know Trump had a hard time moving on) as if that's all there was to it. "The House and Senate Intel committees would handle it."

I must say, he looked rather like a brainwashed zombie saying these things.

Jake Tapper had a WTF expression on his face.

[kentuck]

28. They just had Kaye Bailey Hutchinson on MSNBC...

Giving her spiel and telling us what a great job Donald Trump is doing...

[DinahMoeHum]

32. The GOP is about party before country. . .

. . .buncha lame motherfuckers.

[CrispyQ]

35. McConnell knew, so there will be no investigation.

Party before country.

[lark]

36. Sheer and unadulterated greed is their motive!

They don't give a shit if they have to Sig Heil every day as long as they are in power and can hurt everyone who's not their kind (not rich) and promote policies that enrich themselves and the rest of the 1% and only them.

[Blue Idaho]

39. Playing Politics or Defending the Constitution from all threats...

I wonder which is in then oath they swore when taking office?

[Lifelong Protester]

42. Party before country, eh?