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CousinIT

(9,253 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 06:57 PM Feb 2017

FiveThirtyEight: Donald Trump is unpopular enough that Republicans could lose the House. . .

". . .but there’s a lot of uncertainty."


. . .

Generally speaking, a president’s party does better in down-ballot races when he’s popular and worse when he’s less popular. But it’s not a 1-to-1 relationship. You can see this by plotting the presidents’ final Gallup job approval ratings before every midterm election1 since World War II against how many House seats his party lost.



Let’s use Trump’s current approval ratings, 40 percent, to show how inexact this relationship is. If we were able to predict the House results perfectly based on Trump’s 40 percent approval rating, Republicans would be forecast to lose roughly 40 seats. Democrats need to pick up 24 seats to take back the House. But the margin of error on this estimate is +/- 33 seats! That is, Democrats could gain as few as seven seats or as many as 73. Democrats could end up on the upper end of that scale, if nearly every person who dislikes the president votes for the Democratic candidate in their House election. We have, after all, seen an increasingly strong relationship between how people feel about the president and how they vote for Congress.

But Democrats could also just as easily fall short of a majority. They may not do a good job of recruiting top-notch candidates. In 2016, Democrats didn’t even field a candidate in 29 districts, including in Republican Rep. Pete Sessions’s district in Texas, even as Hillary Clinton beat Trump there. There’s also the issue of district lines. The way district lines are currently drawn benefits Republicans by distributing GOP voters more efficiently than Democratic voters. So, all else being equal, we would probably expect Republicans to win more seats than Trump’s approval rating alone indicates.

One way to get around the effect of how the districts are drawn is to try to predict the national House vote — the change in the share of people2 nationally who vote for Democratic and Republican House candidates — instead of how many House seats change hands. By looking at the national vote, we can get a sense for how many people are voting Democratic or Republican before those votes are skewed by the congressional district lines. But even when looking at the change in the national House vote, there’s a wide margin of error. . . .


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-very-early-look-at-the-battle-for-the-house-in-2018/
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
2. The Dems Have Truly Got To Get Their Act Together
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 07:06 PM
Feb 2017

I am so hoping whoever makes it as chair of the DNC in a couple of weeks carries through on their promises and starts recruiting and implementing the 50 state strategy. Though it will be up to us to hold their feet to the fire.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
17. National Parties Are Not Relevant. Depends on Grassroots and the People
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:16 PM
Feb 2017

If National Parties were relevant, would Trump have been the Republican nominee? The fact of the matter is that a lot of people really dig Trump's racist message. Until people see that racism oppresses poor whites, as well as people of color, Trump's message of white nationalism will continue to resonate. Just blame the brown folks.

CousinIT

(9,253 posts)
4. Yea I'd say all bets are off at this point. 538 said Hillary would win, too.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 07:16 PM
Feb 2017

But I thought this was interesting coming from them anyway so figured I'd share. Basically they're saying the same thing (all bets are off).

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
15. Yeah, but remember how pissed we were...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:10 PM
Feb 2017

... at 538 because they had the lowest probability of a Hillary win?

Raster

(20,998 posts)
5. Yes, and had Comey not regaled us with his tales of NOTHING...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 07:16 PM
Feb 2017

...the GOP would have been well on their way to 40 years wandering in the desert. Comey cost us the Presidency AND several Senate seats.

The national demographics are NOT favorable to the GOP. They are increasingly irrelevant with their bigotry, the big-business bias and their scorched Earth social policies. This is their last stand, and this is why members of the GOP leadership: MCCONNELL have colluded with Russia to put rump* in power.

rump* is a Russian asset, plain and simple. McConnell and most likely Ryan are collaborators in the worst sense of the word.

groundloop

(11,521 posts)
7. Correct. They're clinging to power through gerrymandering, voter suppression, and outright cheating
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 07:29 PM
Feb 2017

If not for Comey combined with GOPer tactics they'd be gone. They're desperately hanging onto power, we need to make sure they don't.

wrenken

(44 posts)
6. I'm not Holding my Breath
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 07:29 PM
Feb 2017

The Republicans are stacking the deck. There will be new anti-voter laws put out there to ensure that they remain in power. Look at what they are doing in Minnesota and Virginia.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
8. Not to mention hacking.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 07:37 PM
Feb 2017

I don't trust that our elections are safe from either direct or indirect interference.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
9. Less than one month into a new administration is way too early for this...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 07:43 PM
Feb 2017

It basically assumes that Benedict Donald's current (un)popularity will continue exactly as is, which is very doubtful. It's more likely that he will either rebound somewhat (as people get used to the "new normal&quot or crater even more (if things keep going the way they are) than that he will simply plateau at this level. And, if either of those happens, all bets are off.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
11. +1, we need full time DNC and that person needs to be held accountable for running people. 1 million
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:49 PM
Feb 2017

... people marched in Washington I don't believe for a second they can't find 29 of them to run next time

Raster

(20,998 posts)
13. I can't either. Even if it's a race we know we will lose...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:55 PM
Feb 2017

...we must have someone in that race, someone in front of voters, someone hitting on the issues. We, the Democratic Party, the American progressives, the citizens who give a damn are being assaulted. We either just sit back and take it, OR WE FIGHT BACK.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
16. House is Safe for Republicans - Does Not Take Into Account Gerrymandering
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:12 PM
Feb 2017

This is why Republicans can pretty much ignore Trump's treason with impunity. Plus, a lot of Americans only care about cracking down on brown people.

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