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Oh My - Pence is demanding to know (Original Post) malaise Feb 2017 OP
He was no more "out of the loop" than I am an Olympic athlete billionaire. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2017 #1
Which is why I want 100% butter with mine malaise Feb 2017 #12
No butter for me. I am in training for the Olympics. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2017 #27
DUzy malaise Feb 2017 #28
can i have yours? I am doing Atkins. samnsara Feb 2017 #77
Is that the Intergalactic Space Olympics by any chance? cstanleytech Feb 2017 #86
The AARP Intergalactic Olympics for the Time Passage Challenged, Senior Division. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2017 #99
That's the only way to go! nt lillypaddle Feb 2017 #79
No kidding. He has looked to be surgically attached to DT. LisaM Feb 2017 #36
Pence was IN CHARGE of the transition. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #40
Yup. zentrum Feb 2017 #57
Correct! Perseus Feb 2017 #58
stories started leaking out last summer rurallib Feb 2017 #63
He's a victim don't ya' know? DK504 Feb 2017 #103
This makes him look really stupid, not victimized leftstreet Feb 2017 #2
IKR... nice try Pence Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #8
I don't want a victim for a President. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2017 #13
Yes, it would be like calling someone who was captured a hero. rzemanfl Feb 2017 #29
Exactly what I meant by my snarky reply. nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #95
And exactly why I agreed with you. rzemanfl Feb 2017 #100
We like presidents who are not victims or out of the loop. nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #94
I recall Ryan exchanging "knowing glance" with Pence at post-inaugural luncheon n/t diva77 Feb 2017 #22
He really is stupid AwakeAtLast Feb 2017 #35
Particularly if trump does have the goods on him. Salviati Feb 2017 #38
Simultaneous impeachments leaving us with Paul Ryan tavalon Feb 2017 #91
This is better than House of Cards. How can HBO compete with this? NurseJackie Feb 2017 #3
HBO can't compete because House of Cards is on Netflix. TeamPooka Feb 2017 #42
Bingo !! pangaia Feb 2017 #56
Ha!! :-D You're right!!! What was I thinking??!! NurseJackie Feb 2017 #68
That's true tavalon Feb 2017 #92
All forms of fiction are taking a hit from this Rural_Progressive Feb 2017 #64
Excellent point, Rural! Welcome to DU! JudyM Feb 2017 #73
I'll give him a hint madokie Feb 2017 #4
We are gonna need a truck load... Blanks Feb 2017 #5
Is there anywhere big enough to dump it all when all done? Doreen Feb 2017 #32
There's a swamp that was supposed to be drained... Blanks Feb 2017 #41
The swamp just got turned into a sewer. Doreen Feb 2017 #53
i think theres a 'for sale' sign on that swamp now samnsara Feb 2017 #76
Maybe the leftover popcorn... 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #84
I'll have the Jumbo and some coconut water please. Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #6
Well at leasat one is good for you malaise Feb 2017 #16
Have you ever tried some coconut oil or olive oil on popcorn? Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #19
We only cook with coconut oil or olive oil but on those very rare occasions when we eat popcorn, it malaise Feb 2017 #20
Ah, the Pence episode! Should be a great show R B Garr Feb 2017 #7
Now that they're "open" to investigating Flynn, maybe they can ask him. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2017 #9
Is a link available? Barack_America Feb 2017 #10
Can't find one yet malaise Feb 2017 #17
He's lying, this is all a show. He needs to seem as if he isnt Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #11
We know malaise Feb 2017 #18
Hey punce not fooled Feb 2017 #30
Link please? NastyRiffraff Feb 2017 #14
Turn on Anderson Cooper - discussing this now malaise Feb 2017 #50
he doesnt have to look far. His boss kept him out of the loop. SummerSnow Feb 2017 #15
pence has his eyes on the top job kevink077 Feb 2017 #47
So true. Like they say, You lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas. SummerSnow Feb 2017 #48
I'm wondering if Flynn will turn on Trump too TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #85
You made your bed, Pence. madamesilverspurs Feb 2017 #21
Hehehehehehhe malaise Feb 2017 #25
Oh, that's good, that's really good Phoenix61 Feb 2017 #31
Going to have to head over to Costco to pick up enough popcorn... HipChick Feb 2017 #23
Even Honey Boo Boo says Tanuki Feb 2017 #24
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Feb 2017 #26
Who? mercuryblues Feb 2017 #33
Didn't Bush Sr. use this same excuse Liberalagogo Feb 2017 #34
Oh dear. Mike, MontanaMama Feb 2017 #37
Hehehehehhehe malaise Feb 2017 #43
Even his pal cheezus MontanaMama Feb 2017 #45
Best damn show since J.R. Ewing got shot! JohnnyLib2 Feb 2017 #39
Yep malaise Feb 2017 #44
Awww. Left out of the *ring* of traitors CountAllVotes Feb 2017 #46
Wait. There's a loop? randome Feb 2017 #49
So his sources say malaise Feb 2017 #52
He musta meant to say loopy. lunatica Feb 2017 #87
Someone whispered to Pence that the IC was planning to go "nuclear" colorado_ufo Feb 2017 #51
LOL malaise Feb 2017 #54
I'm sure Cheney could let him have his undisclosed bunker. tavalon Feb 2017 #93
Unuseful idiot Freethinker65 Feb 2017 #55
I brought extra butter and salt Hekate Feb 2017 #59
Thanks Hekate malaise Feb 2017 #60
First you give us chocolates and now popcorn! flygal Feb 2017 #61
If true, he doesn't have to look far GP6971 Feb 2017 #62
the Republican civil war with bother me a lot less if it weren't for all the collaterals Bucky Feb 2017 #65
Go Pence! BainsBane Feb 2017 #66
FUCK YOU PENCE Skittles Feb 2017 #67
Please. It Is Like Kabuki Theater. Going Through The Motions of Outrage. TomCADem Feb 2017 #69
Seriously bad acting taught_me_patience Feb 2017 #70
I dunno--myself, I always thought he was totally loopy. lastlib Feb 2017 #71
Brother Pence, you are walking far from the Lord here. raging moderate Feb 2017 #72
Putinistas may not trust Pence. moondust Feb 2017 #74
Kind of like a circling firing squad. They are all taking aim TNLib Feb 2017 #75
He wasn't out of the loop get the red out Feb 2017 #78
Pence knew from the day he joined the ticket. Ford_Prefect Feb 2017 #80
First one under the bus, is Pence! MoonRiver Feb 2017 #81
there's 2 narratives. One is where Pence is innocent and therefore excluded librechik Feb 2017 #82
Pence plus a majority of the cabinet could invoke the 25th Amendment...... yellowcanine Feb 2017 #83
Liar Liar Liar Sadie5 Feb 2017 #88
Impeachment will be soon if Pence is pushing for answers. sarcasmo Feb 2017 #89
Trump is a habitual lier and Pence is learned lier Wash. state Desk Jet Feb 2017 #90
Not sure about Pence and that learned part malaise Feb 2017 #97
That's interesting Wash. state Desk Jet Feb 2017 #98
"Out of the loop," my fat ass! GoCubsGo Feb 2017 #96
Pence was presented as the competent, sane one. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #101
Sure hope so malaise Feb 2017 #102

LisaM

(27,806 posts)
36. No kidding. He has looked to be surgically attached to DT.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:40 PM
Feb 2017

Every picture I saw of DT for weeks seem to have both of them in it.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
58. Correct!
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 09:29 PM
Feb 2017

He wants to justify the fact that now he looks like an idiot for not even paying attention to the news where he could have found out what was going on.

Its all theater, he knew...

leftstreet

(36,107 posts)
2. This makes him look really stupid, not victimized
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:06 PM
Feb 2017

methinks it's a little late for plausible deniability

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
38. Particularly if trump does have the goods on him.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:45 PM
Feb 2017

Or even if he doesn't. He will throw anyone and everyone under the bus if it might deflect criticism from him for 30 seconds.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
91. Simultaneous impeachments leaving us with Paul Ryan
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:29 PM
Feb 2017

It's still better than the way it is now. Not by much.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
92. That's true
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:31 PM
Feb 2017

But honestly, if someone tried to pitch this insanity for a fictional show, they would be shown the door. We are living in a B movie.

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
64. All forms of fiction are taking a hit from this
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 09:47 PM
Feb 2017

never has the saying "truth is stranger than fiction" been truer in our time. I mean this stuff is bigly!!

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
41. There's a swamp that was supposed to be drained...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:55 PM
Feb 2017

But I don't think that's coming along all that well.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
19. Have you ever tried some coconut oil or olive oil on popcorn?
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:14 PM
Feb 2017

Yummy.

The popcorn itself is a whole grain so all in all, if you don't load a bunch of salt on it - not so bad!

malaise

(268,968 posts)
20. We only cook with coconut oil or olive oil but on those very rare occasions when we eat popcorn, it
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:16 PM
Feb 2017

usually has 100% butter. Last time was nearly three years ago.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
7. Ah, the Pence episode! Should be a great show
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:07 PM
Feb 2017

right on the heels of the Flynn show. We should name the episodes and copyright them before Trump does.

malaise

(268,968 posts)
18. We know
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:14 PM
Feb 2017


We must still be wary of what is going on (what are they passing, what rights are they taking away), who is stealing the money etc.,while watching this non-stop circus

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
30. Hey punce
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:28 PM
Feb 2017

What about that 9th Comnmandment, the one about not bearing false witness? Guess it's OK to lie if you think you're doing it for jebus.



These fake Xtians can convince themselves of anything.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
15. he doesnt have to look far. His boss kept him out of the loop.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:10 PM
Feb 2017

He is getting it. His role was only to help get Trump elected.

kevink077

(365 posts)
47. pence has his eyes on the top job
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 09:03 PM
Feb 2017

and will turn on Trump when he is politically able. (When Ryan/McConnell give him the go ahead)

There is no honor amongst these thieves.

It would be in the dems best interest for Trump to hang on through next year. The GOP power brokers know this/ so when they move it will certainly be in 2017.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
85. I'm wondering if Flynn will turn on Trump too
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 05:33 PM
Feb 2017

Seriously, why shouldn't he? There's no way Flynn acted on his own.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
51. Someone whispered to Pence that the IC was planning to go "nuclear"
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 09:07 PM
Feb 2017

and he is busy building a bomb shelter.

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
65. the Republican civil war with bother me a lot less if it weren't for all the collaterals
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 09:51 PM
Feb 2017

they all fight scorched-earth.

ACA, Medicare, Social Security, WIC, Peace Corps, NEA, NEH, civil rights, equal protection of the law, America's reputation as a Haven for the oppressed, the 1st, 4th, 14th, 5th, and possibly even the 9th amendments are all laying around the battlefield.

Skittles

(153,159 posts)
67. FUCK YOU PENCE
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 09:59 PM
Feb 2017

YOU HITCHED YOUR WAGON TO A TREASONOUS BASTARD

if you did know, you're COMPLICIT; if you didn't know, you're a fucking IDIOT

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
69. Please. It Is Like Kabuki Theater. Going Through The Motions of Outrage.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:19 PM
Feb 2017

Pence repeatedly denied that the campaign had any contacts or coordination with Russia in response to reports of Russian influence and his own boss's repeated statements in admiration of Putin, Now, Pence is going to act like he had no idea? Really?

If he is the Vice-President, and a former Governor and member of Congress, then the first thing you do is demand to be in the know regarding what kind of crap might be in the pipeline.

If one thing is clear, establishment Republicans are going to insist that any inquiry not touch Pence, who was their preferred candidate from the beginning.

raging moderate

(4,304 posts)
72. Brother Pence, you are walking far from the Lord here.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:58 PM
Feb 2017

The God of Love, of Justice, and of Power would not want you to bear false witness against others in this fashion.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
74. Putinistas may not trust Pence.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 01:56 AM
Feb 2017

He's an establishment guy who knows people in government and who might be tempted to spill the beans if he suddenly developed the wrong kind of ambition.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
82. there's 2 narratives. One is where Pence is innocent and therefore excluded
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 02:07 PM
Feb 2017

from impeachment. The other one is some form of the truth.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
83. Pence plus a majority of the cabinet could invoke the 25th Amendment......
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 02:19 PM
Feb 2017

But would need 2/3 of House and Senate to make it stand.

Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Sadie5

(1,933 posts)
88. Liar Liar Liar
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 05:45 PM
Feb 2017

This is like some ongoing comedy that keeps us entertained each and every day.Pence knew what he was getting into with Trump. But it looks as if I was right and Pence was assured that idiot would be impeached and he (Pence)would take over as president. I bet it was the plan all along. Oh...No...poor Pence has been lied to, I bet right now he's wiping the tears from his lying eyes in grief.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
90. Trump is a habitual lier and Pence is learned lier
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:06 PM
Feb 2017

The two types repel. Trump no doubt asked his friends for some dirt on Pence just in case he tries to mess with Trump's thunder.
Trump most likely suggested his friends find some kind of stuff on Pence that would make him Trump's Agnew. Remember now, Trump's never had an original thought so that has to be the plan ! By the way I read where Trump has never had an original thought in the lie'n media !But I head that is not fake news !

malaise

(268,968 posts)
97. Not sure about Pence and that learned part
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:45 PM
Feb 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mike-pence-used-campaign-funds-to-pay-his-mortgage--and-it-cost-him-an-election/2016/07/15/90858964-49ed-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html?utm_term=.0b2ac43a4e50
<snip>
Mike Pence was a young lawyer on the rise, challenging a longtime Democratic congressman in a Republican-leaning Indiana district.

And then, scandal.

Campaign finance records from the 1990 effort showed that Pence, then 31, had been using political donations to pay the mortgage on his house, his personal credit card bill, groceries, golf tournament fees and car payments for his wife.

The spending had not been illegal at the time. But it stunned voters — and undermined Pence’s strategy to portray the incumbent, Rep. Philip R. Sharp, as tainted by donations from special-interest political action committees.

Pence’s early stumble proved to be a defining moment, prompting a period of public remorse that helped create the wholesome image many Republicans now say makes him an ideal running mate to counterbalance the bombastic Donald Trump.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
96. "Out of the loop," my fat ass!
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:40 PM
Feb 2017

Does he actually believe anyone other than their flying monkeys is buying into his "I had no idea this was going on" bullshit?

GMAFB, Mr. Pence.

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