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BREAKING NEWS: General Matiss calls out Russia for interfering in elections. Seems (Original Post) mfcorey1 Feb 2017 OP
Huh? jehop61 Feb 2017 #1
It was just on CNN crazylikafox Feb 2017 #3
here: Raine1967 Feb 2017 #6
Thanks jehop61 Feb 2017 #7
Seems like his tenure may be a short one NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #12
Mattis is a lying sack of shit atreides1 Feb 2017 #14
I don't think he's lying radical noodle Feb 2017 #25
I watched Chris Hayes a couple days ago watoos Feb 2017 #26
That's where I heard that!!! DK504 Feb 2017 #31
I've heard Col Wilkerson speak about Mattis mountain grammy Feb 2017 #34
That's what I thought until I saw Mattis helping Trump find grantcart Feb 2017 #36
Deflecting itcfish Feb 2017 #32
Agree. old guy Feb 2017 #40
Covering his own ass. mac56 Feb 2017 #41
I'm getting a "media cannot be played" error message... CajunBlazer Feb 2017 #39
I wish I could answer you question. Raine1967 Feb 2017 #42
Lets see Zoonart Feb 2017 #2
Well, Spicer tells us that Flynn was let go due to a breach of Trump trust Orrex Feb 2017 #8
Or as Pat Robertson Says itcfish Feb 2017 #33
Well he's the only sane one in the cabinet Thrill Feb 2017 #19
And HIS nick-name is "Mad Dog". marybourg Feb 2017 #28
Yup Bannon is eager to get US troops on the ground..get that holy war heated up workinclasszero Feb 2017 #24
Here you go and I hope this helps! Raine1967 Feb 2017 #4
Thanks to Trump/Bannon we now have to look at any administration wiggs Feb 2017 #5
THIS BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #9
Says he won't work with Russia, sending in ground troops to Syria. nt Ilsa Feb 2017 #10
I wonder when Pres. Bannon will fire him? nt Ilsa Feb 2017 #11
10..9..8..7.. mfcorey1 Feb 2017 #13
oh dear. JHan Feb 2017 #15
He deliberately said the Russians attempted to interfere in Progressive dog Feb 2017 #16
NEXT: "The Secretary of Defense, James Mattis, has betrayed the Department of Defense by refusing.." dalton99a Feb 2017 #17
Trump doesn't have any actual foreign policies. procon Feb 2017 #18
+++++++++ JHan Feb 2017 #20
Trump has EVERY foreign policy Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #22
We saw Trumpy in action with Israeli foreign policy: One or two state solution? Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #29
Trump and Putin are discussing military cooperation in Syria. Mattis says Russia must prove itself BeckyDem Feb 2017 #21
Huh? Co-operation has to be proven??? Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #30
Mattis is setting the conditions with NATO, per the OP. That is one take from the BeckyDem Feb 2017 #35
Mattis us breaking wigh 45 because Mattis Ilsa Feb 2017 #37
Tomorrow's News: [#45]: I regret that the lying fake NCjack Feb 2017 #23
and wasn't my electoral college victory tremendous? lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #27
I'm worried about his NATO comments. Tragl1 Feb 2017 #38
So is president Bannon going to oppose president Mad Dog? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2017 #43
This ruins the whole predicate for slurping on Putin jeanmarc Feb 2017 #44

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
1. Huh?
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 09:37 AM
Feb 2017

Just watched it and breaking news was about Mattis saying we won't aligh with Russia militarily in mid-east. Where did you see this?

atreides1

(16,100 posts)
14. Mattis is a lying sack of shit
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:03 AM
Feb 2017
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/tillerson-russia-china-g20/index.html


Washington (CNN)Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford meet face to face with their Russian counterparts Thursday, as the Trump administration evaluates the future direction of US-Russian relations.

radical noodle

(8,016 posts)
25. I don't think he's lying
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:50 AM
Feb 2017

I think this is a skirmish between Defense and State. Who is in charge is anyone's guess.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
26. I watched Chris Hayes a couple days ago
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:52 AM
Feb 2017

he had Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson on who is a straight shooting truth teller. Wilkerson vouched for Mattis and said that he would resign before he carried out an idiotic Trump order. Mattis is certainly saying something in opposition to Trump but it isn't the first time that Trump's people weren't on the same page.
I don't think Mattis can be bought, I think what you see is what you get with him, but I could be wrong.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
31. That's where I heard that!!!
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:12 AM
Feb 2017

I'm hoping Mad Dog Mattis stays with his oath to the Constitution and doesn't care if they fire him for speaking the truth.

mountain grammy

(26,661 posts)
34. I've heard Col Wilkerson speak about Mattis
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:18 AM
Feb 2017

and it's the only reason I have any kind of respect for anyone trump would choose.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
36. That's what I thought until I saw Mattis helping Trump find
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:22 AM
Feb 2017

where he should sign the Muslim ban and then clapping like a school boy afterwards. We will wait and see on Mattis.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
39. I'm getting a "media cannot be played" error message...
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:42 AM
Feb 2017

....on this and most of the videos on Tweets. Can anyone tell me on what video format player do I need to download on my PC to play this stuff?

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
42. I wish I could answer you question.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 12:32 PM
Feb 2017

I think it's flash?

It just plays for me -- I hope someone else can answer that, CajunBlazer.

Zoonart

(11,890 posts)
2. Lets see
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 09:41 AM
Feb 2017

how long it takes before the good General is shown the door. President Bannnon wants boots on the ground in Syria.

Orrex

(63,246 posts)
8. Well, Spicer tells us that Flynn was let go due to a breach of Trump trust
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 09:48 AM
Feb 2017

Surely General Mattis has violated that sacred trust as well by defying the Word of Trump?

marybourg

(12,643 posts)
28. And HIS nick-name is "Mad Dog".
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:55 AM
Feb 2017

Kind'a gives you a rough idea of the sanity level of the rest of them.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
24. Yup Bannon is eager to get US troops on the ground..get that holy war heated up
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:31 AM
Feb 2017

Just remember guys save a bullet for yourself..you don't want to be taken prisoner by those ISIS scum.

I pity the poor folks in our military.

Bannon and Trump have an empire to build on their dead and broken bodies.

wiggs

(7,820 posts)
5. Thanks to Trump/Bannon we now have to look at any administration
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 09:45 AM
Feb 2017

statement about russia through the lens of possible cover up of something worse, unseen.

Scripted media manipulation, as always with them. Not to be trusted on its face.

Progressive dog

(6,922 posts)
16. He deliberately said the Russians attempted to interfere in
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:06 AM
Feb 2017

a number of elections in democracies without specifically saying in the United States. Hw also said no military cooperation "right now."
IMO that's a weak statement leaving lots of room for the psychopath to proceed forward with his murdering soulmate from Russia.

procon

(15,805 posts)
18. Trump doesn't have any actual foreign policies.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:17 AM
Feb 2017

He sent Matiss out to freelance on his own and do whatever he thinks best. Trump doesn't have a clue about anything and he knows he's in way over his head so he's just winging it and delegating his presidential authority to whoever is in the room with him at the time.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,054 posts)
22. Trump has EVERY foreign policy
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:24 AM
Feb 2017

He is 100% for NATO (to UK PM May on camera at press conference).
He wants to destroy NATO if Matiss can't shake them down for money.

He wants to tweak trade treaties.
He wants to rip up NAFTA.

Every major issue he has taken both sides and sometimes three sides.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,437 posts)
29. We saw Trumpy in action with Israeli foreign policy: One or two state solution?
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:02 AM
Feb 2017

For Trumpy, it's the same as, "One lump or two with your tea?" He doesn't give a shit. Go ahead, BiBi. Do what you want. I'll rubber-stamp anything you say.

The same is true with this news release from Mattis. Trumpy doesn't care what kind of policy is pushed by Mattis. He probably doesn't get it that Mattis is contradicting him! And worse yet, he doesn't care, as long as Trumpy doesn't take a PR hit.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
21. Trump and Putin are discussing military cooperation in Syria. Mattis says Russia must prove itself
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:23 AM
Feb 2017

BRUSSELS — Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Thursday that Russia will need to “prove itself first” before the United States and other members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization are willing to let their armed forces collaborate — a complicating factor in cooperation that President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin have discussed adopting against the Islamic State in Syria.

Mattis, speaking at NATO’s headquarters in Brussels, told reporters that U.S. and Russian leaders will engage politically, but said the conditions are not right presently for their forces to collaborate. The Pentagon and the Kremlin all but broke contact entirely in 2014, after Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula prompted international outcry.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/02/16/trump-and-putin-are-discussing-military-cooperation-in-syria-mattis-says-russia-must-prove-itself-first/?utm_term=.a597e0eaaaee

Eyeball_Kid

(7,437 posts)
30. Huh? Co-operation has to be proven???
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:11 AM
Feb 2017

Trumpy and Putin have been co-operating (on the US election and afterward) for months! What's the deal, Mad Dog? Don't you like that kind of co-operating? Trumpy wants to invite Putin to his Florida mansion for a card party, and you want proof of Russian co-operation?

I guess that Mattis can assist with Putin's invasion of the Baltics, since Putin is so chummy with the Trumpy White House.

Mattis either has to tell Trumpy and Bannon to STFU or he'll resign. This won't go well for the Mad Dog. He's up against a cabal of race war fanatics and fascists who want WAR with people of color and people of Islam, and who believe that Putin is of like mind.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
35. Mattis is setting the conditions with NATO, per the OP. That is one take from the
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:21 AM
Feb 2017

direction Trump wants to go with policy. I also see Mad Dogs statements as a buffer/buying time against what Trump may want to jump into with Putin in Syria.

Ilsa

(61,709 posts)
37. Mattis us breaking wigh 45 because Mattis
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:24 AM
Feb 2017

understands more about how the russian military achieves its objectives. Mattis doesn't want the US charged with their war crimes, or US soldiers treated as collateral damage.

Maybe it's good thing that Mattis is not so far removed from his loyalty to the military.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
23. Tomorrow's News: [#45]: I regret that the lying fake
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:25 AM
Feb 2017

CNN and other news services have fired General Mattis because of a loss of confidence. That was totally unnecessary, but fake news and you the public have made it impossible for him to continue. All I can say is: don't watch CNN and other fakers.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
27. and wasn't my electoral college victory tremendous?
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:52 AM
Feb 2017

Seriously, they thought it would be maybe 220 tops, but I told Vlad to step on the gas and boy did he pull it off. So glad.

 

Tragl1

(104 posts)
38. I'm worried about his NATO comments.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:40 AM
Feb 2017

Also worried about the Syrian troop articles we are seeing in the media. This chaos coming from the White House and his appointments has to stop.

jeanmarc

(1,685 posts)
44. This ruins the whole predicate for slurping on Putin
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 12:47 PM
Feb 2017

If Matiss won't work with Russia to crush ISIS, that ruins the reason for why Trump is kissing so much Putin butthole.

Or maybe it is that Putin has something on Trump...

Occam's Razor here.

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