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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsComey's Congressional Briefing.
Remember that? So, have you heard anyone who attended say anything at all about what they heard? No? Now, ask yourself why that is. Why would Republican people in Congress go completely silent about that? And that's exactly what they've done. No platitudes in support of Trump. No nothing.
I think the reason is that Comey delivered some very, very bad news for Republicans in that briefing. I think they're trying to figure out how they should even process what they heard. In the meantime, they're saying nothing. It's a three-day weekend, and the orange-haired White House tenant gave a long campaign speech to distract everyone from thinking about this.
Keep your eyes and ears open. I expect some talking about it starting on Tuesday, after everyone comes back to DC from returning to their own states and districts.
It could get very interesting not far down the road, I believe.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Everytime he comes out to tell his fans not to trust the media, I know it means that reports on his own wrongdoing are coming.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)of the three major TV networks to break something next week. Trump is trying his damnedest to poison the press with his base. There's some reason for that, and I don't think it's just his Executive Orders and other such small potatoes.
Three hours Comey talked, followed by utter silence from the people who heard what he had to say. I do notice that letters are going out telling the administration and everyone else to retain all records. That much has happened, anyhow. It is telling, however, that we haven't heard Republican congressional leaders out trying to make excuses for Trump since that meeting with Comey.
I really think there is a big story about to break. It may involve some sort of massive leaking from inside otherwise silent organizations. We'll find out soon enough.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)But this time I do not see any likelihood of him not recommending any charges on this case. The way Trump was ranting and sweating gave me chills. My patience is wearing thin right now, I do not see Donald as ligitimate, and fear we need to add an amendment to the constitution as far as what to do in the instance of a hacked or tampered with election.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)I think he may have been warning those folks in Congress to be prepared for something. I have no idea exactly what form that something might take, though. I just think it's exceedingly strange to have so much silence following something like that. Except from Donald Trump, of course. He's out telling America that the press is the "enemy of the people." I think he knows that something is about to drop. He may not know the details of what it is or how big the story will be, but he's trying to cover his ass beforehand by trying to convict the media.
I hope I'm right, by the way. I'm far from certain about the timing of this, but I really think we're about to have a very, very busy time with media releases soon. It could be very soon, in fact. It could actually be earthshakingly massive.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I have never seen our legislators all manage to keep a secret without even a hint of what is coming. This is most odd, I'd even say without precedent. I am eager to see what comes out and to comb through it line by line.
catbyte
(34,382 posts)of his Republican apologists IS very weird. If it really was nothing, I would've expected them to run in front of every camera they could find to announce Dolt 45*'s "innocence." Not one peep from anybody on that side of the aisle, just these cryptic hints about "something big" coming from our side of the aisle. It is interesting, but just when I get my hopes up, I think of what a President Pence would mean, and my optimism pops like a balloon. He would almost be worse. Damn, I wish we could jettison him, too, but I just don't see that happening.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I think Pence is involved. No matter what he does, he will always have that stain of illigitimacy behind every single action. We can defeat Pence in 2020 easily, he has no damn charisma.
catbyte
(34,382 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to assert control over a situation threatening to become seriously problematic for him. Likely you're right, because god knows so much should be exploding under his and the rest of their feet.
This article from Politico, a right-leaning publication, before he had even completed his subversion of the election, though, describes someone who was showing signs of being dangerously unfit for power. As we now know is entirely true. Many observers have likened him increasingly to Hoover, more than any other FBI direction since Hoover.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/james-comey-fbi-accountability-214234
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)There is an obvious big gap in our Constitution...at least an Amendment to the effect, when there is substantial proof as established by our intelligence agencies, of interference by a foreign power, a recall election will be held. Maybe 55 or 60 pc of people vote for a recall, then a revote. States do it. Im still not convinced that it could not have been tried. Language in Constitution is expanded from generalities all of the time, or we wouldn't have millions of cases and laws, that survived constitutional challenges. Problem is that now we get Pence, who im sure had "knowledge," or they think he is such a stooge, they just used him as a prop VP, and worked around him. The lengths the Repubs have gone to white wash him make me suspicious.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Link to tweet
#27!
trump was horrifying like he was scared he'd be exposed for treason.. notice how All these news orgs are enemies of the state but nothing bad about fox..
"@ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!"
Notice he doesn't tweet that Fake New fox is the enemy.
trump never has anything negative to say about the most fake news on the Planet.
I'm surprised more aren't talking about this little detail.. it's so glaring
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I have noticed he never criticises RT or Fox or any of those rightwing crap sources. The only enemies he has in the media are the honest journalists.
Ligyron
(7,632 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)MineralMan
(146,295 posts)Since the meeting happened on Friday, news has been slow, but everyone is commenting on the unusual silence from those attending it. Even Fox news said that it was most unusual and may portend something very serious.
It's only Sunday and tomorrow's a holiday. We're going to have to wait, but the news gatherers are making calls and chatting people up to see if they can get something to report. Beyond that, there are a few teams of journalists who are working even harder on what could be a bigger story, all fleshed out for publication.
There's urgency in the media about these things. It's still important to be the first outlet to break a major story. So, we probably won't have to wait too long before we find out what there is to find out.
Hold onto your seat. This could be a bumpy ride, I think.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Still silence.
murielm99
(30,738 posts)And a lot of disgust from the Democrats.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Of course, that is the House, where Dipshit AH Traitor Chaffetz is in control
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)But given that it was a three hour meeting, you may be right.
The sooner the Trump regime falls apart, the better the world will be.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)way towards redeeming him.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)something from this. He made some grievous mistakes during the campaign. It may be all he can do to keep himself from being prosecuted, frankly. Three hours he talked to a select group in Congress. And then, silence.
It bodes poorly for Herr Trump, I think.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Their activities, and his required response to them, have put a stain on his long career. His integrity, patriotism, and professionalism have been called into question, because of the things that the criminals, not he, did.
I was reading some of Louise Menschs work on the subject, and what she has to say make lots of sense, with regard to Director Comey, and recent developments. Malcolm Nance, as well, has been on teevee, making some very bold statements.
This week could get very interesting.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)at all. They are, in fact, continuations of other behaviors most of us didn't know about until this very public imposition of his choices on the nation.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)He is the Vice President picked by an illegitimate, compromised "President." If he didn't know, he should have. Also, Drumpf is still fat.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,990 posts)pay attention to anything else.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)I think they're working on what they're going to drop on us soon. It could come as early as Tuesday. Or, it could take a bit longer, but I think there's going to be a massive shock story in the news very soon.
The whole Russian thing has the potential to completely eclipse the whole Watergate thing. It could end up becoming the story of the century, if worst comes to worst. I don't know. I don't actually have any real information. It's just a hunch, based on the sudden lull of discussion of the Russian connection and Trump's "enemy of the people" attack on the media.
We're being prepared for a big deal, I think. Watch for it. If I'm wrong, I'll post about that later on.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,990 posts)Because it's all about them.
Hekate
(90,677 posts)It's not just hurt feelings. Any journalist worth the name realizes that having a job specifically mentioned in the US Constitution is a big deal -- and that having the likes of TrumpBannon calling them "the enemy of the American people" is a BFD.
They are now paying attention. Someone (I think Dan Rather) recently wrote that reporters all over the place, not just DC, are now digging like maddened coal miners to find out the truth.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I sure hope he delivered some bad, bad news for RePubs. You're right, there hasn't been so much as a peep.
I'm more frightened every day. There has to be a legal remedy for this dangerous insanity and soon.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)from the people who attended that meeting with Comey. It may well be that the story is already past the point of return and that Comey explained that to Congress.
If you want a guess as to who will break this, I'd guess either the New York Times or Washington Post. They still have enough staff to put together a massive revelation story. However, the rest of the major mainstream media will be on it, too, if the story is there.
I can't really remember something quite like this total silence following something as interesting as Comey doing a three-hour briefing in a classified setting. Something is in the works, I think, that will be an enormous story.
Given the current state of things, and Trump's weird campaign rally and "enemy of the people" nonsense, I expect whatever it is to break very soon. Following a three-day weekend that is, amusingly, Presidents' Day, it may be very, very interesting, indeed.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)Here's the scenario of least resistance: Trumpy personally guided communications with Russia and Putin. He directed his surrogates to plan with Russia an anti-Clinton campaign. He also made a deal with Russia that he'd repay them with favors if they helped him win. The pretext for this is that Trumpy ALREADY owed Russia a ton of payback for Russian Oligarchs bailing him out of massive financial failure.
Another possible scenario is the corroboration with ALL of Christopher Steele's dossier as factual. Or both scenarios can be validated.
Yes, the thundercloud is building. Lightning will strike. A tornado will touch down. And when the storm passes, nothing will be left of the Trumpy White House.
That's where it looks like this story is going.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)It doesn't matter, really, exactly what will end up being revealed. If it's big enough to require a secret meeting with Congress people at the end of the day on Friday, it's likely to be a large story - one well worth waiting for.
One thing's certain. Nothing ever remains a secret in Washington. Whatever Comey had to tell those folks will be revealed at some point soon. His urgency in calling that meeting is another indication that it's going to come out shortly, I think.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Natasha Bertrand
Jan. 27, 2017, 7:06
<SNIP>
Rosneft then scrambled to find a foreign investor, holding talks with more than 30 potential buyers from Europe, the US, Asia, and the Middle East. The company signed a deal on December 7 to sell 19.5% of shares, or roughly $11 billion, to the multinational commodity trader Glencore Plc and Qatar's state-owned wealth fund. Qatar's sovereign wealth fund is Glencore's largest shareholder.
The "11th hour deal" was "so last minute," Reuters reported, "that it appeared it would not close in time to meet the government's deadline for booking money in the budget from the sale."
<SNIP>
The privatization deal was funded by Gazprombank, whose parent company is the state-owned Russian energy giant Gazprom.
Page holds investments in Gazprom, though he claimed in a letter to FBI Director James Comey in September that he sold his stake in the company "at a loss." His website says he served as an adviser "on key transactions" for the state-owned energy giant before setting up his energy investment fund, Global Energy Capital, in 2008 with former Gazprom executive Sergei Yatsenko.
There is no evidence that Carter played any role in the Rosneft deal. But he was back in Moscow on December 8 one day after the deal was signed to "meet with some of the top managers" of Rosneft, he told reporters at the time. Page denied meeting with Sechin, Rosneft's CEO, during that trip but said it would have been "a great honor" if he had.
http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-russia-igor-sechin-dossier-2017-1
Page is a very shadowy figure and few who have been in the same organizations with him will admit to any knowledge of him. I just a minute ago watched Roger Stone deny knowing Page at all even though Page was part of the Trump campaign prior to the nomination.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)consulting firm at one time ?
csziggy
(34,136 posts)But I have not seen that they were at the same firm.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)tweet said "SICK!"
Mike Nelson
(9,954 posts)...or some hint. Something could be revealed - if only the nature of the meeting (we've got nothing provable on him; we're building a case). Something could come out - Senator tells wife, who tells secure reporter... or someone could be told where to smell... Trump, Pence and Bannon must know. That they've stepped up their "Media is Enemy" campaign and the fact that nothing has come out are our tea leaves.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)Except a story today about members of Congress from both parties sending letters out warning agencies and organizations to preserve records. That did happen. I think it's another indication that something is building on the horizon that is about to break on our shores. A Newsami, perhaps.
Mike Nelson
(9,954 posts)...both sides being silent indicates, to me, something definitive.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Leaks are for relatively ordinary stuff. This thing must be very big. Big enough so that the people in the meeting would be very afraid to say anything and be accused of interfering.
Will be waiting to see!
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)stop legislating their AGGRESSIVE agenda..just as aynrandryan suggested....I feel as though the republicans are robbing and pillaging our beautiful country....
Making America HATE - RESIST!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,686 posts)And I think that what Comey told them is that the intelligence services have solid evidence of collusion with Russia by Trump and his campaign in attempting to influence the election. Because that evidence was likely obtained via NSA monitoring it's probably classified, so they can't talk about it publicly. Now they are stuck trying to figure out what to do about it. It will eventually leak; these things always do - so in the meantime they have to decide how to handle a very hot potato.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)But, would it be true that a law enforcement officer is not allowed to talk publicly about a criminal investigation, but is allowed to talk about a criminal case?
Any legal input appreciated.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)MineralMan
(146,295 posts)Some action has been taken by the Intelligence Community, following the Comey briefing. Some interesting action, I think. That story is partly why I posted this OP.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Not to mention Defense Secretary Mattis.
They know it's only a matter of time before this is broken wide open.
I pray our assets that obtained the relevant information are protected, but I look forward to complete understanding regarding how this election was stolen and how Trump was used to sabotage this nation.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)They're setting up their independence from Trump. Interesting.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)to agencies and organizations:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028677729
This is very interesting, and may have been missed by many. It's what triggered my OP, actually.
mcar
(42,316 posts)It does feel like we're in the relative calm of the hurricane's eye.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)I'm ready for this whole thing to blow up in Trump's face.
Satch59
(1,353 posts)Too many "signs" out there...the deafening silence from that meeting...Trump's even more unhinged behavior... The only one out there is Pribus?
Your hunches are usually good MineralMan, will keep hoping this blows soon...
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)So my hunches aren't always right, by any means. That, of course, doesn't stop me from having them.
monmouth4
(9,697 posts)Russian interference and vote manipulation would happen..
Demonaut
(8,914 posts)MineralMan
(146,295 posts)Something was about to happen on MSNBC, too. Here's a thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028678180
Satch59
(1,353 posts)She was the one throwing up her hands after a Comey briefing weeks ago, before the inauguration?
Alex Witt looked a little shell shocked after her interview..."well those are some serious charges..."
Maxine is not afraid to say impeachment...
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)I like that very much!
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)Wyden pushing to get it unclassified. Says we have the right to know now, but...politics.
See this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028675751
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)me come up with this thread, as part of an overall look at things. I hope people will visit your link.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)now that at least some media is doing some real news. Chris Wallace this morning!!!
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)However, if they have enough information, they eventually lay it out for us. I think we're approaching that point right now. We're even hearing from a few Republicans who are getting fed up with Trump's antics. The tide, I think, may be turning. Watch out for a tsunami if the water goes way out from shore.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)complicit, have been holding them hostage, but I think it will reach critical mass where it is so obvious that the ship is going down that they will jump due to fear of being on the wrong side of public opinion. There are a lot more people who dont support T than who do. And wouldnt you think that the R's with kids and grand kids would start to get alarmed about the nuke codes being in the hands of a volatile vindictive child?
tavernier
(12,388 posts)I know, I know... just that word makes me shudder... but then at least the Trump groupies would be getting the news from their own trusted source, and be less likely to ignore it.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)Here's an interesting story I just found from yesterday:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/18/amid-russia-concerns-comeys-closed-door-hill-visit-results-is-uncanny-silence-among-lawmakers.html
MyMission
(1,850 posts)Just popped into my head after that post. "They" will probably leak it to Fox, so they can be heralded and lauded as honest, truthful, trustworthy. then Fox is validated. Horrible thought, I know.
I never read Fox, didn't click to the link, but appreciate those who can look at real fake news with a critical eye.
you're right, Many reporters are contacting sources, scrambling to break the latest news on this doomed regime.
tavernier
(12,388 posts)If Fox takes him out, I promise to watch them as often as I always have!
(Like giving up fried gopher for Lent)
My election night Asti is still in the fridge and waiting for a celebration, even if it means Pence. I'm desperate.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)MineralMan
(146,295 posts)He's still a damned Repubican, but there are times when he stands up for things, even if they go against the grain with other GOOpers.
That he dislikes Trump is no secret. I'm listening to what he is saying about all this. He may be a belwether for other Republicans.
blitzen
(4,572 posts)even though we didn't vote for you.
spanone
(135,831 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)MineralMan
(146,295 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)Democrats were "seething" after that meeting, so I fully expect SOMETHING to come out at the very least.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)but trying to appear to be doing the right thing. That is his MO. With hillary, he essentially said, I have to CYA, as if he was being honorable with his tone, and that is more important than than throwing the election. He had stuff on the Russians, much worse, and he didnt throw that out after people had started voting. He is a slime. Traitor.
Yep, he wants to make his legacy look better...with that i agree, but if he did the investigation right, he's up to his eyeballs, so let's do an "honorable" sham.
The fact that Dems were mad tells me it's a pile of shit, another cover up, and Dems are getting screwed again.
I do hope I'm wrong!!!
If Comey wanted to preserve info, there would be discovery requests, subpoenas, something. To me, it smells of heads up to Repubs, and a CYA, clear our names with a psedo investigation.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I read somewhere (sorry, I can't find it now so can't provide a link) that several of the attendees were "ashen" when they walked out. Then, nothing. No leaks, utter silence.
I hope people in the media are doing some serious digging.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)a big story connected with this. While investigative reporting has been in a downturn for sometime, some outlets, like the NYT, still have journalists on staff who have the chops to run things like this down.
I have no doubt that every attempt is being made to find what's there to find. When there's enough, it'll be a very, very big story. They're not going to dribble this one out in small bits and pieces. It's going to be explosive, if there's enough material to make a big noise.
The Comey meeting may well have been the fuse being lit on this bomb.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)We're watching all the water get sucked away out to sea, and wondering, "Huh! I wonder what this is all about?"
And then noticing a thin white line waaay out on the horizon...
The tea leaves seem to be spelling out their message in Cyrillic.
Bring it on!!!
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)I used to have a recurring dream that was like that. I knew that the big wave was coming, but couldn't move. Then, it loomed up, and I always woke up at that point.
So, yes, it does feel a bit like that. This time, though, I'll be well out of the way in plenty of time.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Wave bon voyage...
malaise
(268,987 posts)Truth will out
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)I'm ready for it to be out now, though.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)He claimed to know what went on in that meeting and said there was no there there.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)He's likely talking out of his ass again.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)The Comey briefing to Congress was made late Friday afternoon, just before a three-day weekend. The real journalists have been working their asses off, trying to get to the bottom of it, yesterday and into today. Editorial meetings starting tomorrow morning, followed by assembling the story.
Watch for this to first appear in the wee hours of Monday Morning in the first online editions of the New York Times or Washington Post or both. That will give the major network morning news shows time to work up a big boomer for the breakfast hour national news. If it's big enough, coffee may be spewed out of noses everywhere.
If it's truly a blockbuster story, that will be the most likely timeline. If it's a story that will need more time to develop, that's too soon, although there may be hints.
In any case, every major news outlet lives to break blockbuster stories, so people are hard at work, if there's anything to it.
I can't imagine that there isn't a big story, though, given the nature of Comey's briefing and the utter silence following it.
malaise
(268,987 posts)Might break tonight -Sunday - like the Bin Laden raid
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)A guy wants a big audience for a big story, and everyone will be sleeping in tomorrow. Tuesday would be my guess, with the first news showing up in the dark hours before dawn.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...and, so far -- crickets chirping.
Hekate
(90,677 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,952 posts)so they may not come back at all after the holiday unless their constituents run them out of town.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)In fact, they'd probably prefer not to be, frankly.
They're all in their own states and districts right now, trying to figure out which way the wind is blowing. The major news media don't care about all that. They have everyone's cell phone number. Calls are being made. Secrets are being told. Information is flowing.
It's a perfect storm brewing. Batten down the hatches.
BumRushDaShow
(128,952 posts)We have been seeing stories about constituents protesting outside of their offices and/or swarming their town halls so fleeing might be preferable.
I am somewhat jaded though given we have heard about bombshells to come and they have been mostly batted away. I do know the pressure cooker is operating at max so it may just be a matter of time, but we shall see. I never thought I'd see the media as livid as they are today but then $$$ and eyeballs and ratings tend to snap them back into line after awhile.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Is it a select, chosen number of equal (D) and (R) Senate and House members? Like a committee?
Are there names or is that classified too? lol
Thanks!
renegade000
(2,301 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)8 ReThugs and 7 Democrats.
Although Collins has been letting the Rethugs down a bit lately, eh? And Cotton and Rubio HATE everything Russian. But Manchin....hmmm a Democrat in a very red state.
Ok, it's breath holding time.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)who might have been there!
Hekate
(90,677 posts)....to start her Senate career. Feinstein and Wyden are old hands.
On the other side, Susan Collins has character, and Marco Rubio hates Commies due to family history.
Others can fill in the rest.
JI7
(89,249 posts)MineralMan
(146,295 posts)old guy
(3,283 posts)I won't entirely poo poo it but am going to reserve one poo until something actually happens.
janx
(24,128 posts)Is there any video of the senators coming out of that meeting? Glad to know that Heinrich is there.
MineralMan
(146,295 posts)Friday night. Didn't think much about it at the time.