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MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:37 PM Feb 2017

Comey's Congressional Briefing.

Remember that? So, have you heard anyone who attended say anything at all about what they heard? No? Now, ask yourself why that is. Why would Republican people in Congress go completely silent about that? And that's exactly what they've done. No platitudes in support of Trump. No nothing.

I think the reason is that Comey delivered some very, very bad news for Republicans in that briefing. I think they're trying to figure out how they should even process what they heard. In the meantime, they're saying nothing. It's a three-day weekend, and the orange-haired White House tenant gave a long campaign speech to distract everyone from thinking about this.

Keep your eyes and ears open. I expect some talking about it starting on Tuesday, after everyone comes back to DC from returning to their own states and districts.

It could get very interesting not far down the road, I believe.

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Comey's Congressional Briefing. (Original Post) MineralMan Feb 2017 OP
I'm waiting for that too bravenak Feb 2017 #1
Yes, indeed. I'm watching for the New York Times or one MineralMan Feb 2017 #5
I think Comey might come out and say someting just like he did with Clinton bravenak Feb 2017 #13
Could be. Or, he might be leaving it all to others. MineralMan Feb 2017 #19
I believe you are right bravenak Feb 2017 #20
Actually, you're right. I was leaning towards poo-pooing the while thing, but the silence catbyte Feb 2017 #71
I agree that Pence would be worse, but... bravenak Feb 2017 #73
From your keyboard to God's ears...and I'm an atheist. catbyte Feb 2017 #75
Me too! bravenak Feb 2017 #76
Hope you're all right and Comey is not using his power Hortensis Feb 2017 #84
Good idea, but would the Repubs fight it Alice11111 Feb 2017 #78
OT from Comey but still relevant in case you didn't see this.. Cha Feb 2017 #100
Oh my. He really is a Russian plant. bravenak Feb 2017 #105
Maybe this is what D. Frum was alluding to earlier this week? Ligyron Feb 2017 #54
It sure feels like that, doesn't it? nt GliderGuider Feb 2017 #55
Possibly. MineralMan Feb 2017 #56
Democrats met with him a couple of months ago also SHRED Feb 2017 #2
Yes, silence. murielm99 Feb 2017 #33
Like Elijah Cummings said, the loud sound of silence Alice11111 Feb 2017 #79
It's either that or a whole bunch of Comey coverup. C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #3
If Comey comes out of this like Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. it would go along rzemanfl Feb 2017 #4
Yup. Comey may be doing an end-around to try to salvage MineralMan Feb 2017 #6
I think Comey is not at all happy that he was used by the Trump/Putin campaign. Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #30
Excellent points CC. Trust Buster Feb 2017 #102
Comey's actions were entirely deliberate, not mistakes Hortensis Feb 2017 #87
I am concerned about all the layers of insulation being wrapped around Pence. rzemanfl Feb 2017 #92
The press is too busy pissing and moaning about Trump dissing 'em to 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #7
I think you're wrong, actually. MineralMan Feb 2017 #11
We shall see. I can't recall the last time I saw the press this enraged about ANYTHING. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #88
The press got smacked across the face with a cold fish & it woke them from their doze... Hekate Feb 2017 #97
Do you expect the talking about the content of the meeting will be in the form of leaks? PearliePoo2 Feb 2017 #8
It may well be that no leaks are needed, really, at least MineralMan Feb 2017 #14
We're all supposed to be silent, in wait of the big wave. Well, where can this go? Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #59
Well, I'm not ready to be specific, really. MineralMan Feb 2017 #61
I'm waiting to find out who got that 19.5% of Rosneft that Carter Page was involved with csziggy Feb 2017 #91
You might have the linchpin to it all. Wasn't Manafort, Stone and Page working at the same Trust Buster Feb 2017 #103
I'm not sure about that - they each worked at firms helping Putin in his goals csziggy Feb 2017 #106
Or video footage of Trump raping a 13-year-old. Remember Trump's original KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #104
I expected a leak... Mike Nelson Feb 2017 #9
Yes. I did too. But there was nothing. MineralMan Feb 2017 #16
I hope so... Mike Nelson Feb 2017 #18
Not necessarily. ginnyinWI Feb 2017 #52
Only a matter of time..agree..but then, do not expect republicans to asiliveandbreathe Feb 2017 #10
I have been wondering about that. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #12
I'm not so good with the legal. Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #32
Yup. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2017 #15
See my link in #21. MineralMan Feb 2017 #24
I am really so eagerly anticipating this thing blowing wide open, sooner rather than later NRaleighLiberal Feb 2017 #27
Plus Pence is distancing himself from Trump. Tatiana Feb 2017 #17
Yes. That news is new this weekend, too. MineralMan Feb 2017 #23
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #25
See this link for corroboration of the letters from Congress MineralMan Feb 2017 #21
You make good points, MM mcar Feb 2017 #22
You know what? I hope like Hell I'm right. MineralMan Feb 2017 #26
Amen Hekate Feb 2017 #98
Let this be the beginning of the crumbling... Satch59 Feb 2017 #28
Yes, but remember that I also predicted an easy win for Hillary. MineralMan Feb 2017 #31
Actually you were completely right. Hillary did win by three million + or - some votes. Who knew monmouth4 Feb 2017 #34
it's been very interesting so far, the shit show is going to get shittier Demonaut Feb 2017 #29
For what it's worth, Maxine Waters just said that MineralMan Feb 2017 #35
Yes and she's been hinting for awhile... Satch59 Feb 2017 #36
Yes. She is definitely not shy about speaking her mind. MineralMan Feb 2017 #39
senator Wyden mentioned it in his town hall yesterday. He was there. It is still classified. Amaryllis Feb 2017 #37
Thank you. I read your post earlier and it helped MineralMan Feb 2017 #38
Wyden said keep up the public pressure...they can run but they can't hide forever, especially Amaryllis Feb 2017 #41
It's hard for the media to make large movements. MineralMan Feb 2017 #44
None of them have wanted to step out alone, and McConnell and Ryan, who are most likely Amaryllis Feb 2017 #45
It would be even better if Fox broke it. tavernier Feb 2017 #53
Well, Fox News is working on it, too, just like all the others. MineralMan Feb 2017 #57
an awful thought MyMission Feb 2017 #77
I'll take it. tavernier Feb 2017 #90
McCain on MTP just now: "there will be more shoes to drop." n/t secondwind Feb 2017 #40
Good to hear from Senator McCain on that. MineralMan Feb 2017 #42
Please, we implore you, Grumpy McGrumpface, Deliver us from evil... blitzen Feb 2017 #96
K&R... spanone Feb 2017 #43
Maxine Waters was talking on MSNBC and hinting about some information about to come out. George II Feb 2017 #46
Yes, she was. I linked to a DU thread about that above. MineralMan Feb 2017 #51
I hope you're right, and I suspect you probably are. n/t Still In Wisconsin Feb 2017 #47
Yes, I remember! BigDemVoter Feb 2017 #48
I hope you guys are right! I don't see Comey doing much Alice11111 Feb 2017 #83
The silence is ominous NastyRiffraff Feb 2017 #49
I'm sure the media is working hard to get a beat on MineralMan Feb 2017 #50
I feel like we're standing on an ocean beach GliderGuider Feb 2017 #58
Yeah, kinda like that. MineralMan Feb 2017 #60
Goddess willing, Trump and the Kremlin Klan Kleptocracy Krew will be all alone on the beach. GliderGuider Feb 2017 #65
K & R malaise Feb 2017 #62
It usually will, anyhow. MineralMan Feb 2017 #67
Then you missed what Rinsed Penis said on MTP leftofcool Feb 2017 #63
I have never listened to Rinsed Prepuce about anything. MineralMan Feb 2017 #66
Here's My Guess on When This Breaks, If It Breaks Soon MineralMan Feb 2017 #64
That would be better than my coffee malaise Feb 2017 #69
Yeah, maybe. But, today may be spent putting it all together. MineralMan Feb 2017 #72
Well, it's the "wee hours of Monday Morning"... regnaD kciN Feb 2017 #101
More drip drip drip though Hekate Feb 2017 #107
Both Chambers of Congress are off all next week BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #68
They don't need to be there for a big story to break. MineralMan Feb 2017 #70
It depends BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #74
Can you tell me exactly WHO was at Comey's briefing? PearliePoo2 Feb 2017 #80
Likely these senators renegade000 Feb 2017 #81
Thanks! Bookmarked for reference. PearliePoo2 Feb 2017 #86
Thanks! I was also wondering Blue_Roses Feb 2017 #95
Okay: DiFi, Kamala Harris, Ron Wyden. Kamala certainly is having a baptism of fire.... Hekate Feb 2017 #99
when was this ? would it be connected to flynn removal and protection of Pence ? JI7 Feb 2017 #82
Friday afternoon. MineralMan Feb 2017 #93
While it does heighten my anticipation a little, old guy Feb 2017 #85
Very thoughtful post, MM. janx Feb 2017 #89
I saw a clip on the CBS news MineralMan Feb 2017 #94
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. I'm waiting for that too
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:40 PM
Feb 2017

Everytime he comes out to tell his fans not to trust the media, I know it means that reports on his own wrongdoing are coming.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
5. Yes, indeed. I'm watching for the New York Times or one
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:47 PM
Feb 2017

of the three major TV networks to break something next week. Trump is trying his damnedest to poison the press with his base. There's some reason for that, and I don't think it's just his Executive Orders and other such small potatoes.

Three hours Comey talked, followed by utter silence from the people who heard what he had to say. I do notice that letters are going out telling the administration and everyone else to retain all records. That much has happened, anyhow. It is telling, however, that we haven't heard Republican congressional leaders out trying to make excuses for Trump since that meeting with Comey.

I really think there is a big story about to break. It may involve some sort of massive leaking from inside otherwise silent organizations. We'll find out soon enough.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
13. I think Comey might come out and say someting just like he did with Clinton
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:57 PM
Feb 2017

But this time I do not see any likelihood of him not recommending any charges on this case. The way Trump was ranting and sweating gave me chills. My patience is wearing thin right now, I do not see Donald as ligitimate, and fear we need to add an amendment to the constitution as far as what to do in the instance of a hacked or tampered with election.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
19. Could be. Or, he might be leaving it all to others.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:07 PM
Feb 2017

I think he may have been warning those folks in Congress to be prepared for something. I have no idea exactly what form that something might take, though. I just think it's exceedingly strange to have so much silence following something like that. Except from Donald Trump, of course. He's out telling America that the press is the "enemy of the people." I think he knows that something is about to drop. He may not know the details of what it is or how big the story will be, but he's trying to cover his ass beforehand by trying to convict the media.

I hope I'm right, by the way. I'm far from certain about the timing of this, but I really think we're about to have a very, very busy time with media releases soon. It could be very soon, in fact. It could actually be earthshakingly massive.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
20. I believe you are right
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:10 PM
Feb 2017

I have never seen our legislators all manage to keep a secret without even a hint of what is coming. This is most odd, I'd even say without precedent. I am eager to see what comes out and to comb through it line by line.

catbyte

(34,382 posts)
71. Actually, you're right. I was leaning towards poo-pooing the while thing, but the silence
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:26 PM
Feb 2017

of his Republican apologists IS very weird. If it really was nothing, I would've expected them to run in front of every camera they could find to announce Dolt 45*'s "innocence." Not one peep from anybody on that side of the aisle, just these cryptic hints about "something big" coming from our side of the aisle. It is interesting, but just when I get my hopes up, I think of what a President Pence would mean, and my optimism pops like a balloon. He would almost be worse. Damn, I wish we could jettison him, too, but I just don't see that happening.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
73. I agree that Pence would be worse, but...
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:32 PM
Feb 2017

I think Pence is involved. No matter what he does, he will always have that stain of illigitimacy behind every single action. We can defeat Pence in 2020 easily, he has no damn charisma.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
84. Hope you're all right and Comey is not using his power
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:40 PM
Feb 2017

to assert control over a situation threatening to become seriously problematic for him. Likely you're right, because god knows so much should be exploding under his and the rest of their feet.

This article from Politico, a right-leaning publication, before he had even completed his subversion of the election, though, describes someone who was showing signs of being dangerously unfit for power. As we now know is entirely true. Many observers have likened him increasingly to Hoover, more than any other FBI direction since Hoover.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/james-comey-fbi-accountability-214234

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
78. Good idea, but would the Repubs fight it
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:16 PM
Feb 2017

There is an obvious big gap in our Constitution...at least an Amendment to the effect, when there is substantial proof as established by our intelligence agencies, of interference by a foreign power, a recall election will be held. Maybe 55 or 60 pc of people vote for a recall, then a revote. States do it. Im still not convinced that it could not have been tried. Language in Constitution is expanded from generalities all of the time, or we wouldn't have millions of cases and laws, that survived constitutional challenges. Problem is that now we get Pence, who im sure had "knowledge," or they think he is such a stooge, they just used him as a prop VP, and worked around him. The lengths the Repubs have gone to white wash him make me suspicious.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
100. OT from Comey but still relevant in case you didn't see this..
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 05:10 AM
Feb 2017



#27!

trump was horrifying like he was scared he'd be exposed for treason.. notice how All these news orgs are enemies of the state but nothing bad about fox..

"@ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!"

Notice he doesn't tweet that Fake New fox is the enemy.

trump never has anything negative to say about the most fake news on the Planet.

I'm surprised more aren't talking about this little detail.. it's so glaring
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
105. Oh my. He really is a Russian plant.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:25 AM
Feb 2017

I have noticed he never criticises RT or Fox or any of those rightwing crap sources. The only enemies he has in the media are the honest journalists.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
56. Possibly.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:55 PM
Feb 2017

Since the meeting happened on Friday, news has been slow, but everyone is commenting on the unusual silence from those attending it. Even Fox news said that it was most unusual and may portend something very serious.

It's only Sunday and tomorrow's a holiday. We're going to have to wait, but the news gatherers are making calls and chatting people up to see if they can get something to report. Beyond that, there are a few teams of journalists who are working even harder on what could be a bigger story, all fleshed out for publication.

There's urgency in the media about these things. It's still important to be the first outlet to break a major story. So, we probably won't have to wait too long before we find out what there is to find out.

Hold onto your seat. This could be a bumpy ride, I think.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
79. Like Elijah Cummings said, the loud sound of silence
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:20 PM
Feb 2017

Of course, that is the House, where Dipshit AH Traitor Chaffetz is in control

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
3. It's either that or a whole bunch of Comey coverup.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:42 PM
Feb 2017

But given that it was a three hour meeting, you may be right.
The sooner the Trump regime falls apart, the better the world will be.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
6. Yup. Comey may be doing an end-around to try to salvage
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:49 PM
Feb 2017

something from this. He made some grievous mistakes during the campaign. It may be all he can do to keep himself from being prosecuted, frankly. Three hours he talked to a select group in Congress. And then, silence.

It bodes poorly for Herr Trump, I think.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
30. I think Comey is not at all happy that he was used by the Trump/Putin campaign.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:32 PM
Feb 2017

Their activities, and his required response to them, have put a stain on his long career. His integrity, patriotism, and professionalism have been called into question, because of the things that the criminals, not he, did.

I was reading some of Louise Menschs work on the subject, and what she has to say make lots of sense, with regard to Director Comey, and recent developments. Malcolm Nance, as well, has been on teevee, making some very bold statements.

This week could get very interesting.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
87. Comey's actions were entirely deliberate, not mistakes
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:49 PM
Feb 2017

at all. They are, in fact, continuations of other behaviors most of us didn't know about until this very public imposition of his choices on the nation.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
92. I am concerned about all the layers of insulation being wrapped around Pence.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 08:56 PM
Feb 2017

He is the Vice President picked by an illegitimate, compromised "President." If he didn't know, he should have. Also, Drumpf is still fat.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
11. I think you're wrong, actually.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:54 PM
Feb 2017

I think they're working on what they're going to drop on us soon. It could come as early as Tuesday. Or, it could take a bit longer, but I think there's going to be a massive shock story in the news very soon.

The whole Russian thing has the potential to completely eclipse the whole Watergate thing. It could end up becoming the story of the century, if worst comes to worst. I don't know. I don't actually have any real information. It's just a hunch, based on the sudden lull of discussion of the Russian connection and Trump's "enemy of the people" attack on the media.

We're being prepared for a big deal, I think. Watch for it. If I'm wrong, I'll post about that later on.

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,990 posts)
88. We shall see. I can't recall the last time I saw the press this enraged about ANYTHING.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:51 PM
Feb 2017

Because it's all about them.

Hekate

(90,677 posts)
97. The press got smacked across the face with a cold fish & it woke them from their doze...
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:02 AM
Feb 2017

It's not just hurt feelings. Any journalist worth the name realizes that having a job specifically mentioned in the US Constitution is a big deal -- and that having the likes of TrumpBannon calling them "the enemy of the American people" is a BFD.

They are now paying attention. Someone (I think Dan Rather) recently wrote that reporters all over the place, not just DC, are now digging like maddened coal miners to find out the truth.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
8. Do you expect the talking about the content of the meeting will be in the form of leaks?
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:51 PM
Feb 2017

I sure hope he delivered some bad, bad news for RePubs. You're right, there hasn't been so much as a peep.
I'm more frightened every day. There has to be a legal remedy for this dangerous insanity and soon.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
14. It may well be that no leaks are needed, really, at least
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:59 PM
Feb 2017

from the people who attended that meeting with Comey. It may well be that the story is already past the point of return and that Comey explained that to Congress.

If you want a guess as to who will break this, I'd guess either the New York Times or Washington Post. They still have enough staff to put together a massive revelation story. However, the rest of the major mainstream media will be on it, too, if the story is there.

I can't really remember something quite like this total silence following something as interesting as Comey doing a three-hour briefing in a classified setting. Something is in the works, I think, that will be an enormous story.

Given the current state of things, and Trump's weird campaign rally and "enemy of the people" nonsense, I expect whatever it is to break very soon. Following a three-day weekend that is, amusingly, Presidents' Day, it may be very, very interesting, indeed.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
59. We're all supposed to be silent, in wait of the big wave. Well, where can this go?
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:03 PM
Feb 2017

Here's the scenario of least resistance: Trumpy personally guided communications with Russia and Putin. He directed his surrogates to plan with Russia an anti-Clinton campaign. He also made a deal with Russia that he'd repay them with favors if they helped him win. The pretext for this is that Trumpy ALREADY owed Russia a ton of payback for Russian Oligarchs bailing him out of massive financial failure.

Another possible scenario is the corroboration with ALL of Christopher Steele's dossier as factual. Or both scenarios can be validated.

Yes, the thundercloud is building. Lightning will strike. A tornado will touch down. And when the storm passes, nothing will be left of the Trumpy White House.

That's where it looks like this story is going.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
61. Well, I'm not ready to be specific, really.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:06 PM
Feb 2017

It doesn't matter, really, exactly what will end up being revealed. If it's big enough to require a secret meeting with Congress people at the end of the day on Friday, it's likely to be a large story - one well worth waiting for.

One thing's certain. Nothing ever remains a secret in Washington. Whatever Comey had to tell those folks will be revealed at some point soon. His urgency in calling that meeting is another indication that it's going to come out shortly, I think.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
91. I'm waiting to find out who got that 19.5% of Rosneft that Carter Page was involved with
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 08:08 PM
Feb 2017
Memos: CEO of Russia's state oil company offered Trump adviser, allies a cut of huge deal if sanctions were lifted

Natasha Bertrand
Jan. 27, 2017, 7:06

<SNIP>

Rosneft then scrambled to find a foreign investor, holding talks with more than 30 potential buyers from Europe, the US, Asia, and the Middle East. The company signed a deal on December 7 to sell 19.5% of shares, or roughly $11 billion, to the multinational commodity trader Glencore Plc and Qatar's state-owned wealth fund. Qatar's sovereign wealth fund is Glencore's largest shareholder.

The "11th hour deal" was "so last minute," Reuters reported, "that it appeared it would not close in time to meet the government's deadline for booking money in the budget from the sale."

<SNIP>

The privatization deal was funded by Gazprombank, whose parent company is the state-owned Russian energy giant Gazprom.

Page holds investments in Gazprom, though he claimed in a letter to FBI Director James Comey in September that he sold his stake in the company "at a loss." His website says he served as an adviser "on key transactions" for the state-owned energy giant before setting up his energy investment fund, Global Energy Capital, in 2008 with former Gazprom executive Sergei Yatsenko.

There is no evidence that Carter played any role in the Rosneft deal. But he was back in Moscow on December 8 — one day after the deal was signed — to "meet with some of the top managers" of Rosneft, he told reporters at the time. Page denied meeting with Sechin, Rosneft's CEO, during that trip but said it would have been "a great honor" if he had.
http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-russia-igor-sechin-dossier-2017-1


Page is a very shadowy figure and few who have been in the same organizations with him will admit to any knowledge of him. I just a minute ago watched Roger Stone deny knowing Page at all even though Page was part of the Trump campaign prior to the nomination.
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
103. You might have the linchpin to it all. Wasn't Manafort, Stone and Page working at the same
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 08:20 AM
Feb 2017

consulting firm at one time ?

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
106. I'm not sure about that - they each worked at firms helping Putin in his goals
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 11:35 AM
Feb 2017

But I have not seen that they were at the same firm.

Mike Nelson

(9,954 posts)
9. I expected a leak...
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:53 PM
Feb 2017

...or some hint. Something could be revealed - if only the nature of the meeting (we've got nothing provable on him; we're building a case). Something could come out - Senator tells wife, who tells secure reporter... or someone could be told where to smell... Trump, Pence and Bannon must know. That they've stepped up their "Media is Enemy" campaign and the fact that nothing has come out are our tea leaves.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
16. Yes. I did too. But there was nothing.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:01 PM
Feb 2017

Except a story today about members of Congress from both parties sending letters out warning agencies and organizations to preserve records. That did happen. I think it's another indication that something is building on the horizon that is about to break on our shores. A Newsami, perhaps.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
52. Not necessarily.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:44 PM
Feb 2017

Leaks are for relatively ordinary stuff. This thing must be very big. Big enough so that the people in the meeting would be very afraid to say anything and be accused of interfering.

Will be waiting to see!

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
10. Only a matter of time..agree..but then, do not expect republicans to
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:53 PM
Feb 2017

stop legislating their AGGRESSIVE agenda..just as aynrandryan suggested....I feel as though the republicans are robbing and pillaging our beautiful country....

Making America HATE - RESIST!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
12. I have been wondering about that.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:54 PM
Feb 2017

And I think that what Comey told them is that the intelligence services have solid evidence of collusion with Russia by Trump and his campaign in attempting to influence the election. Because that evidence was likely obtained via NSA monitoring it's probably classified, so they can't talk about it publicly. Now they are stuck trying to figure out what to do about it. It will eventually leak; these things always do - so in the meantime they have to decide how to handle a very hot potato.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
32. I'm not so good with the legal.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:38 PM
Feb 2017

But, would it be true that a law enforcement officer is not allowed to talk publicly about a criminal investigation, but is allowed to talk about a criminal case?

Any legal input appreciated.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
24. See my link in #21.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:15 PM
Feb 2017

Some action has been taken by the Intelligence Community, following the Comey briefing. Some interesting action, I think. That story is partly why I posted this OP.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
17. Plus Pence is distancing himself from Trump.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:03 PM
Feb 2017

Not to mention Defense Secretary Mattis.

They know it's only a matter of time before this is broken wide open.

I pray our assets that obtained the relevant information are protected, but I look forward to complete understanding regarding how this election was stolen and how Trump was used to sabotage this nation.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
23. Yes. That news is new this weekend, too.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:13 PM
Feb 2017

They're setting up their independence from Trump. Interesting.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
21. See this link for corroboration of the letters from Congress
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:11 PM
Feb 2017

to agencies and organizations:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028677729

This is very interesting, and may have been missed by many. It's what triggered my OP, actually.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
26. You know what? I hope like Hell I'm right.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:16 PM
Feb 2017

I'm ready for this whole thing to blow up in Trump's face.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
28. Let this be the beginning of the crumbling...
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:24 PM
Feb 2017

Too many "signs" out there...the deafening silence from that meeting...Trump's even more unhinged behavior... The only one out there is Pribus?

Your hunches are usually good MineralMan, will keep hoping this blows soon...

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
31. Yes, but remember that I also predicted an easy win for Hillary.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:35 PM
Feb 2017

So my hunches aren't always right, by any means. That, of course, doesn't stop me from having them.

monmouth4

(9,697 posts)
34. Actually you were completely right. Hillary did win by three million + or - some votes. Who knew
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:48 PM
Feb 2017

Russian interference and vote manipulation would happen..

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
36. Yes and she's been hinting for awhile...
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:02 PM
Feb 2017

She was the one throwing up her hands after a Comey briefing weeks ago, before the inauguration?

Alex Witt looked a little shell shocked after her interview..."well those are some serious charges..."

Maxine is not afraid to say impeachment...

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
37. senator Wyden mentioned it in his town hall yesterday. He was there. It is still classified.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:04 PM
Feb 2017

Wyden pushing to get it unclassified. Says we have the right to know now, but...politics.
See this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028675751

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
38. Thank you. I read your post earlier and it helped
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:07 PM
Feb 2017

me come up with this thread, as part of an overall look at things. I hope people will visit your link.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
41. Wyden said keep up the public pressure...they can run but they can't hide forever, especially
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:11 PM
Feb 2017

now that at least some media is doing some real news. Chris Wallace this morning!!!

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
44. It's hard for the media to make large movements.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:15 PM
Feb 2017

However, if they have enough information, they eventually lay it out for us. I think we're approaching that point right now. We're even hearing from a few Republicans who are getting fed up with Trump's antics. The tide, I think, may be turning. Watch out for a tsunami if the water goes way out from shore.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
45. None of them have wanted to step out alone, and McConnell and Ryan, who are most likely
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:26 PM
Feb 2017

complicit, have been holding them hostage, but I think it will reach critical mass where it is so obvious that the ship is going down that they will jump due to fear of being on the wrong side of public opinion. There are a lot more people who dont support T than who do. And wouldnt you think that the R's with kids and grand kids would start to get alarmed about the nuke codes being in the hands of a volatile vindictive child?

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
53. It would be even better if Fox broke it.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:44 PM
Feb 2017

I know, I know... just that word makes me shudder... but then at least the Trump groupies would be getting the news from their own trusted source, and be less likely to ignore it.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
77. an awful thought
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:53 PM
Feb 2017

Just popped into my head after that post. "They" will probably leak it to Fox, so they can be heralded and lauded as honest, truthful, trustworthy. then Fox is validated. Horrible thought, I know.
I never read Fox, didn't click to the link, but appreciate those who can look at real fake news with a critical eye.
you're right, Many reporters are contacting sources, scrambling to break the latest news on this doomed regime.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
90. I'll take it.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:44 PM
Feb 2017

If Fox takes him out, I promise to watch them as often as I always have!
(Like giving up fried gopher for Lent)

My election night Asti is still in the fridge and waiting for a celebration, even if it means Pence. I'm desperate.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
42. Good to hear from Senator McCain on that.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:13 PM
Feb 2017

He's still a damned Repubican, but there are times when he stands up for things, even if they go against the grain with other GOOpers.

That he dislikes Trump is no secret. I'm listening to what he is saying about all this. He may be a belwether for other Republicans.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
96. Please, we implore you, Grumpy McGrumpface, Deliver us from evil...
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:56 AM
Feb 2017

even though we didn't vote for you.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
48. Yes, I remember!
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:32 PM
Feb 2017

Democrats were "seething" after that meeting, so I fully expect SOMETHING to come out at the very least.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
83. I hope you guys are right! I don't see Comey doing much
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:38 PM
Feb 2017

but trying to appear to be doing the right thing. That is his MO. With hillary, he essentially said, I have to CYA, as if he was being honorable with his tone, and that is more important than than throwing the election. He had stuff on the Russians, much worse, and he didnt throw that out after people had started voting. He is a slime. Traitor.
Yep, he wants to make his legacy look better...with that i agree, but if he did the investigation right, he's up to his eyeballs, so let's do an "honorable" sham.
The fact that Dems were mad tells me it's a pile of shit, another cover up, and Dems are getting screwed again.
I do hope I'm wrong!!!
If Comey wanted to preserve info, there would be discovery requests, subpoenas, something. To me, it smells of heads up to Repubs, and a CYA, clear our names with a psedo investigation.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
49. The silence is ominous
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:35 PM
Feb 2017

I read somewhere (sorry, I can't find it now so can't provide a link) that several of the attendees were "ashen" when they walked out. Then, nothing. No leaks, utter silence.

I hope people in the media are doing some serious digging.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
50. I'm sure the media is working hard to get a beat on
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:38 PM
Feb 2017

a big story connected with this. While investigative reporting has been in a downturn for sometime, some outlets, like the NYT, still have journalists on staff who have the chops to run things like this down.

I have no doubt that every attempt is being made to find what's there to find. When there's enough, it'll be a very, very big story. They're not going to dribble this one out in small bits and pieces. It's going to be explosive, if there's enough material to make a big noise.

The Comey meeting may well have been the fuse being lit on this bomb.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
58. I feel like we're standing on an ocean beach
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:00 PM
Feb 2017

We're watching all the water get sucked away out to sea, and wondering, "Huh! I wonder what this is all about?"
And then noticing a thin white line waaay out on the horizon...

The tea leaves seem to be spelling out their message in Cyrillic.

Bring it on!!!

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
60. Yeah, kinda like that.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:03 PM
Feb 2017

I used to have a recurring dream that was like that. I knew that the big wave was coming, but couldn't move. Then, it loomed up, and I always woke up at that point.

So, yes, it does feel a bit like that. This time, though, I'll be well out of the way in plenty of time.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
65. Goddess willing, Trump and the Kremlin Klan Kleptocracy Krew will be all alone on the beach.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:20 PM
Feb 2017

Wave bon voyage...

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
63. Then you missed what Rinsed Penis said on MTP
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:16 PM
Feb 2017

He claimed to know what went on in that meeting and said there was no there there.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
64. Here's My Guess on When This Breaks, If It Breaks Soon
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:19 PM
Feb 2017

The Comey briefing to Congress was made late Friday afternoon, just before a three-day weekend. The real journalists have been working their asses off, trying to get to the bottom of it, yesterday and into today. Editorial meetings starting tomorrow morning, followed by assembling the story.

Watch for this to first appear in the wee hours of Monday Morning in the first online editions of the New York Times or Washington Post or both. That will give the major network morning news shows time to work up a big boomer for the breakfast hour national news. If it's big enough, coffee may be spewed out of noses everywhere.

If it's truly a blockbuster story, that will be the most likely timeline. If it's a story that will need more time to develop, that's too soon, although there may be hints.

In any case, every major news outlet lives to break blockbuster stories, so people are hard at work, if there's anything to it.

I can't imagine that there isn't a big story, though, given the nature of Comey's briefing and the utter silence following it.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
72. Yeah, maybe. But, today may be spent putting it all together.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:27 PM
Feb 2017

A guy wants a big audience for a big story, and everyone will be sleeping in tomorrow. Tuesday would be my guess, with the first news showing up in the dark hours before dawn.

BumRushDaShow

(128,952 posts)
68. Both Chambers of Congress are off all next week
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:22 PM
Feb 2017

so they may not come back at all after the holiday unless their constituents run them out of town.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
70. They don't need to be there for a big story to break.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:25 PM
Feb 2017

In fact, they'd probably prefer not to be, frankly.

They're all in their own states and districts right now, trying to figure out which way the wind is blowing. The major news media don't care about all that. They have everyone's cell phone number. Calls are being made. Secrets are being told. Information is flowing.

It's a perfect storm brewing. Batten down the hatches.

BumRushDaShow

(128,952 posts)
74. It depends
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:34 PM
Feb 2017

We have been seeing stories about constituents protesting outside of their offices and/or swarming their town halls so fleeing might be preferable.

I am somewhat jaded though given we have heard about bombshells to come and they have been mostly batted away. I do know the pressure cooker is operating at max so it may just be a matter of time, but we shall see. I never thought I'd see the media as livid as they are today but then $$$ and eyeballs and ratings tend to snap them back into line after awhile.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
80. Can you tell me exactly WHO was at Comey's briefing?
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:26 PM
Feb 2017

Is it a select, chosen number of equal (D) and (R) Senate and House members? Like a committee?
Are there names or is that classified too? lol
Thanks!

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
86. Thanks! Bookmarked for reference.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:45 PM
Feb 2017

8 ReThugs and 7 Democrats.
Although Collins has been letting the Rethugs down a bit lately, eh? And Cotton and Rubio HATE everything Russian. But Manchin....hmmm a Democrat in a very red state.
Ok, it's breath holding time.

Hekate

(90,677 posts)
99. Okay: DiFi, Kamala Harris, Ron Wyden. Kamala certainly is having a baptism of fire....
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:24 AM
Feb 2017

....to start her Senate career. Feinstein and Wyden are old hands.

On the other side, Susan Collins has character, and Marco Rubio hates Commies due to family history.

Others can fill in the rest.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
85. While it does heighten my anticipation a little,
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:43 PM
Feb 2017

I won't entirely poo poo it but am going to reserve one poo until something actually happens.

janx

(24,128 posts)
89. Very thoughtful post, MM.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:12 PM
Feb 2017

Is there any video of the senators coming out of that meeting? Glad to know that Heinrich is there.

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