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kpete

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Sun Feb 19, 2017, 09:36 PM Feb 2017

SATER!

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A Big Shoe Just Dropped



I don’t know how much attention it’s received. But the appearance of the name of Felix Sater in this new article in the Times is one of the biggest shoes I’ve seen drop on the Trump story in some time.

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Having spent some time studying the matter, the biggest red flags about Donald Trump’s ties to Russia and businessmen around Vladimir Putin have always been tied to the Trump SoHo building project in Lower Manhattan, from the first decade of this century. I base my knowledge of this on this rather cursory but still quite good April 2016 article from the Times and my own limited snooping around the Outer Boroughs Russian and Ukrainian emigre press. (I summarized the most salient details of the earlier Times article in Item #3 of this post.) This was a key project, perhaps the key project in the post-bankruptcy era in which Trump appeared heavily reliant on Russian funds to finance his projects. Sater was at the center of that project. The details only came to light after the project got bogged down in a complicated series of lawsuits.

After the lawyers got involved, Trump said he barely knew who Sater was. But there is voluminous evidence that Sater, a Russian emigrant, was key to channeling Russian capital to Trump for years. Sater is also a multiple felon and at least a one-time FBI informant.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-big-shoe-just-dropped





Holy fck Trump is in deep.

The relationship beteen Donald Trump and Felix Sater, whose father is a reputed Russian Organized Crime boss, represented a rather direct link between the presidential candidate and Russian Organized Crime. The Russian émigré — a twice-convicted felon with ties to the Mafia — appeared in photos with Trump, and carried a Trump Organization business card with the title “Senior Advisor to Donald Trump.”

Sater served prison time for a grisly 1991 assault in New York. According to court documents, Sater allegedly told a man at the bar, “I’ll kill you. I’ll rip your f****** head off and stick it down your throat.” Sater then smashed the glass on the bar, and stabbed the man in the cheek and neck, breaking his cheek and jaw, lacerating face and neck and severing nerves. He was convicted of first degree assault.

Bayrock Group LLC was a real estate development firm that partnered with Trump on numerous projects after renting office space from the Trump Organization. Sater is a top Bayrock executive in the Bayrock Group, which is headquartered in Trump Tower. The founding chairman of Bayrock is Tevfik Arif, who has reputed Russian organized crime ties. In 2010 he was charged in Turkey for smuggling underage girls into the country for prostitution. Another principal in the deal is Russian émigré Tamir Sapir, who also lives in Trump Tower. Sapir’s executive vice president and top aide, Fred Contini, pled guilty in 2004 to “participating in a racketeering conspiracy with the Gambino crime family for 13 years.”

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/russian-organized-crime.htm





Oct 3, 2012
Swindler, Stinger-missile brokers, the CIA

How a developer of Fort Lauderdale Trump Tower, a troubled project that cost investors millions, got the feds to erase his criminal past.

By Michael Sallah
msallah@...

A decade before he launched the celebrated Fort Lauderdale Trump Tower, Felix Sater hatched a bold plan to keep out of prison.

Charged in a New York securities scandal, the 46-year-old businessman traveled to his native Russia where he took on a unique role that went far beyond flipping on dangerous criminals.

He began spying for the CIA.

Tapping into the vast underground of the former Soviet Union, Sater was able to track down a dozen Stinger missiles equipped with powerful tracking devices on the black market.

With the backing of U.S. agents, Sater agreed to buy the weapons — keeping them out of the hands of terrorists. In return, the CIA pledged to keep Sater from going to jail in the stock scam he concocted with New York organized crime figures.

The deal was set.

Damage `incalculable'

Now, years after the failure of the Trump Tower, a legal battle has ensued between burned investors trying to reveal Sater's background and federal agents who say national security is at stake.

"The problem is at scandal level, and the damage done to victims is incalculable," argued attorney Richard Lerner in a brief before the U.S. Supreme Court.

Next month, a New York federal judge will decide whether to release dozens of documents in a dispute that alleges Sater stole millions from investors while he was given sweeping protections by prosecutors.

Saying the government has a duty to protect witnesses, prosecutors are fighting to keep Sater's case hidden in a battle that's expected to be heard by the justices.

Even the federal judge, Leo Glasser, has weighed into the case, arguing in a hearing that revealing some of the secrets could "significantly affect matters of national interest."

Though the federal prosecutor's office in Brooklyn has declined to talk about Sater's role with the government, records just released show he was finally sentenced in 2009 — 11 years after he was charged in the New York stock fraud case.

The outcome: a $25,000 fine, no prison time.

In addition, he was not ordered to pay back his victims — mandatory under federal law — despite losses totaling $40 million.

What remains sealed is the work that Sater performed for the government in the past 14 years that's now the topic of the court fight.

During one hearing, the judge said the case had reached top members "of a national law enforcement security agency. I should say agencies — plural." But he didn't elaborate.

The fight has been taken so seriously the judge is using the name John Doe instead of Sater to hide his identity and to "protect the life of the person."

Despite the drama over hiding his past, some details have been divulged over the years, including records in the National Archives that show he cooperated with prosecutors in the securities scheme.

Then, another defendant in the scam, Salvatore Lauria, co-wrote a 274-page book in 2003 describing the deal they cut with the CIA to stay out of prison.

"We were hoping for a free ride or a get-out-of-jail-free card for our crimes on Wall Street," he wrote in The Scorpion and the Frog: High Crimes and High Times.

When Sater was charged in the securities scandal in 1998, he was already in Russia with another defendant, Gennady Klotsman, according to the book, which used a pseudonym for Sater.

In the next two years, the three men would look for ways to stay out of prison with Sater delving into the dangerous world of arms traders and smugglers.

At the time, Russia was teeming with a network of people selling tanks, fighter planes, radar systems and missiles, wrote Lauria, 43.

"The CIA was worried the weapons would be sold to our enemies," he said.

For Sater, it was the perfect solution.

They would get Russian operatives to buy the anti-aircraft missiles from terrorists — with the CIA kicking in $300,000 for each missile, the book states.

The deal would collapse — with the CIA and FBI at odds over the arrangement — but the crucial contacts in the black market would soon be fruitful for the defendants after the attacks of 9/11.

"Now the information was deemed important enough," Lauria said in the final chapter of his book.

Though Lauria changed his mind and tried to stop publication, saying it was a work of fiction, co-author David S. Barry said his research for the book was drawn from interviews, court documents, police reports, and federal records, among others.

Barry said he spent months communicating with Lauria, getting intricate details about their foray to snare the missiles with the help of Russian brokers.

"It was a straight effort of reporting on my part," said Barry, a former Associated Press reporter who has authored two other books.

Though most of the defendants in the stock swindle were sentenced by 2004, prosecutors pressed the court to delay sentencing for Sater so he could keep working with them — his racketeering crimes hidden.

In the ensuing years, he jumped into the real estate business, joining forces with Donald Trump who lent his name to projects in Fort Lauderdale, Phoenix and New York.

Sater was among the most visible members of the development team, interviewing with the media about the ventures, his conviction never revealed.

He would jet back and forth to South Florida, buying a condo on Fisher Island in 2007 while investing millions with his company in the Midtown Miami project the same year, records show.

Word leaks out

Not until a civil racketeering suit was filed two years ago accusing him and others of massive fraud in the Fort Lauderdale tower and other projects did his role in the $40 million stock scheme come to light.

A former finance director for the developers accused Sater and others of diverting millions from the IRS through shell companies.

The developers have vehemently denied the allegations, but the issue that galvanized the court was the fact that the lawyers inserted the sealed information about Sater in their case.

Prosecutors argued that the case could have been filed without tapping into the highly sensitive records that were somehow leaked to the lawyers.

"Something very bad and perhaps despicable was done by the use of those documents," said Judge Glasser.

Sater's former lawyer, Kelly Moore, also argued that sealing the records was not just crucial to "protecting human life" but "national security," records show.

But lawyers pressing the suit have now taken the case to the Supreme Court, saying the judge went far beyond his bounds by hiding a racketeering case for 14 years — including the entire docket.

"A covert dual justice system of secret criminal trials is illegal and can have no place in American law," wrote Lerner in a brief before the Supreme Court.

Paul Cassell, a former Utah federal judge who joined the appeal, said the victims were deprived of ever knowing whether a ringleader in a major stock scam was punished.

&quot Sater) apparently continues to live the high life off of the money that he stole from victims," he wrote in a brief for the National Organization for Victim Assistance.

Though top suspects in the securities scam were ordered to make restitution, including three of the ringleaders, no such order exists for Sater, according to records just released.

"Just as pirates think that `Dead Men tell No Tales,' the government seems to believe that sealed cases will never be subject to public scrutiny," Cassell wrote.

https://beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/thenewbushwhackerbrigade2/conversations/messages/89544http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyer-delivered-michael-flynn-plan-to-lift-sanctions-on-russia-2017-2





FEBRUARY 19, 2017
A week before Michael T. Flynn resigned as national security adviser, a sealed proposal was hand-delivered to his office, outlining a way for President Trump to lift sanctions against Russia.

Mr. Flynn is gone, having been caught lying about his own discussion of sanctions with the Russian ambassador. But the proposal, a peace plan for Ukraine and Russia, remains, along with those pushing it: Michael D. Cohen, the president’s personal lawyer, who delivered the document; Felix H. Sater, a business associate who helped Mr. Trump scout deals in Russia; and a Ukrainian lawmaker trying to rise in a political opposition movement shaped in part by Mr. Trump’s former campaign manager Paul D. Manafort.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.html?smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur&referer=https://t.co/jrMfjHZv5J











money quote from TODAY's NYT:

Mr. Flynn is gone, having been caught lying about his own discussion of sanctions with the Russian ambassador. But the proposal, a peace plan for Ukraine and Russia, remains, along with those pushing it: Michael D. Cohen, the president’s personal lawyer, who delivered the document; Felix H. Sater, a business associate who helped Mr. Trump scout deals in Russia; and a Ukrainian lawmaker trying to rise in a political opposition movement shaped in part by Mr. Trump’s former campaign manager Paul D. Manafort.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.html


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/trumps-lawyer-involved-with-plan-to-lift-russian-sanctions.html
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SATER! (Original Post) kpete Feb 2017 OP
Oh, that's easy reading. I could read that kind of stuff all night long. WheelWalker Feb 2017 #1
Hmm... Mike Nelson Feb 2017 #2
Put your hands in the air...we're on one hell of a roller coaster ride! FailureToCommunicate Feb 2017 #3
I need to start selling popcorn, I will be making a killing in the next few weeks! Initech Feb 2017 #5
I hate roller coasters! Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #7
Trump will no doubt eliminate OSHA, and safety inspectors, so...the ride is going FailureToCommunicate Feb 2017 #13
Oh crap. I'll be waking up extra early every morning to Ilsa Feb 2017 #19
Organized Crime equals taxes. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #4
And this former NSA guy is onto the Trump/Sater/Mafia connection. Snarkoleptic Feb 2017 #6
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Feb 2017 #8
The dots are beginning to connect: icymist Feb 2017 #9
With the Senate and Congress and WH Equinox Moon Feb 2017 #10
Here's hoping. volstork Feb 2017 #15
Indeed. Equinox Moon Feb 2017 #16
Good laugh, that. House/Senate/WH busy investigating problems in their nests? erronis Feb 2017 #29
More like the scandals are ignored but they are useful LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #31
The McCain comment I read is interesting too. I went down the rabbit hole and not Lucinda Feb 2017 #11
Please connect ProudLib72 Feb 2017 #12
Russian Mafia is trained by KGB/FSB icymist Feb 2017 #14
K&R BSdetect Feb 2017 #17
Donald Trump Jr. Was The Keynote Speaker At Russian Real Estate Summit icymist Feb 2017 #18
Well if it ain't Marky Mark Burnett. Many thanks, icymist, what a major mystery you have solved Leghorn21 Feb 2017 #27
Breathtaking. . . . annabanana Feb 2017 #20
Unbelievable, unimaginable, unthinkable mountain grammy Feb 2017 #21
Get ready for "Fake News" screams. sarcasmo Feb 2017 #22
Yeah, funny how that's been everyplace today, huh? herding cats Feb 2017 #23
My God. This is so bad. So terrifying. The criminals are so entrenched! Tatiana Feb 2017 #24
Sater was also an FBI/CIA operative/informant dooner Feb 2017 #25
Yes, that's the "thing" - he's so enmeshed/entrenched, apparently, with the intel community, Leghorn21 Feb 2017 #28
I'm betting Trump has also been an FBI informant. McCamy Taylor Feb 2017 #26
Vitaly Churkin, Russia's ambassador to UN, dies suddenly at 64 icymist Feb 2017 #30
Funny how the libmediar resolutely avoids Sater material like that in this thread Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #32
More exposure! Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #33

FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
13. Trump will no doubt eliminate OSHA, and safety inspectors, so...the ride is going
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 10:21 PM
Feb 2017

to get a lot scarier and deadly!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
19. Oh crap. I'll be waking up extra early every morning to
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 11:03 PM
Feb 2017

see if there are overnight developments. I'm not patient enough.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
6. And this former NSA guy is onto the Trump/Sater/Mafia connection.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 10:01 PM
Feb 2017

"Sater's dad is a top underboss 4 Semyon Mogilevich, the world's leading mafia don. Just another Trump coincidence."




Plus this video of Trump doing the bob and weave about his relationship with Sater. (at 1:10, he flees an interview)


and page down one post for more of the BBC interview...



Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
10. With the Senate and Congress and WH
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 10:13 PM
Feb 2017

busy with the issues and scandals they won't have time to gut our social safety programs and ACA.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
16. Indeed.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 10:32 PM
Feb 2017

Plus, the press is keeping this alive everyday. It can't be ignored.
Let's keep them too busy with congressional and senate hearings.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
29. Good laugh, that. House/Senate/WH busy investigating problems in their nests?
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:12 PM
Feb 2017

Why do you think that the districts have been gerrymandered, that the under-the-table cash payments have been made?

Mitch may look like a turtle with a neck that doesn't stop but up front he's a shrewd dealer and totally able to take care of himself and close friends.

The house, well we all know that's a total joke.

The only way they'll change leadership is when they get another "reminder" from their keepers about what is known and can be published. (Altho I can't imagine Mitch being blackmailed for lascivious behavior - ohhhh, my eyes!)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
31. More like the scandals are ignored but they are useful
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 04:53 PM
Feb 2017

In that they overshadow their relentless daily destruction of FDR's America and the environment.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
11. The McCain comment I read is interesting too. I went down the rabbit hole and not
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 10:15 PM
Feb 2017

sure just where I saw it...but his comment saying that the investigations being blocked wont move until journos push the information public.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
12. Please connect
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 10:18 PM
Feb 2017

Russia to Chapped Ass, McConnell, and Ryan! Otherwise I fear it will take more than a couple of weeks to take down tRump, no matter how much intel exists.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
27. Well if it ain't Marky Mark Burnett. Many thanks, icymist, what a major mystery you have solved
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:25 AM
Feb 2017

for those of us who could not, ever once, figure out a really solid reason for his refusal to release apprentice outtakes. I mean, I knew he was still producing the show, and he had $ ties to DFT, but ultimately, is he not a patriot first?? I really spent more than a little time waiting for this guy to, you know, save America.

Thank you again, icymist, for this little chunk of the puzzle: solved -

Here's a paragraph from the 2001 NYT Burnett article:

For Burnett, 40, the day has been a typical, tightly scheduled torrent of interviews and production meetings, culminating in a cell-phone strategy session in the car with his lawyer and manager, Conrad Riggs. After the conversation, Burnett tells me, half-crowing and half-cowed, "Putin is involved." Yes, that Putin. Burnett has been negotiating with Russian officials for months over "Destination Mir," but recent reports on how the space station is about to fall out of the sky have, to say the least, complicated his plans. Still, he believes the show can be pulled off, perhaps using a deal the Russians have in place with the new International Space Station or, if that falls through, maybe settling for the less-thrilling option of simply shooting the contestant into orbit for a couple of weeks. Openly contemptuous of even a bit of negative thinking, Burnett looks at it this way: "I think 'Mir' is going to be hard only as a political thing. The show will be easy. I really want to do a space show. And, typically, I'm quite good at making things happen."

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
21. Unbelievable, unimaginable, unthinkable
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 11:51 PM
Feb 2017

and yet, I'm sure, true. Also complicated. Don't think our media is capable of digesting this and spitting out enough facts to change anything the GOP is doing, which is anything they want. Nothing seems to stop them.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
23. Yeah, funny how that's been everyplace today, huh?
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:47 AM
Feb 2017

It's almost like it may be a thing, and all this war on the media by Trump was by design, huh? Imagine that.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
24. My God. This is so bad. So terrifying. The criminals are so entrenched!
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:26 AM
Feb 2017

It will take decades to clean up this mess.

And those damn morons that voted for Trump... I really want to shake them so hard and ask them if they understand what they've done? That they've sanctioned a traitor and invited Russia to come into our country and destroy it.

dooner

(1,217 posts)
25. Sater was also an FBI/CIA operative/informant
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:28 AM
Feb 2017

So what does that mean for this current mess? Is Sater still an informant?

A lot of people seemed to know he was an informant (easy to do the math, he served no time for a $40million securities fraud). Seems like Trump would also have known?

There are a lot of pieces of the puzzle starting to come together.. but it's quite the blockbuster mystery!

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
28. Yes, that's the "thing" - he's so enmeshed/entrenched, apparently, with the intel community,
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:35 AM
Feb 2017

whom I am personally hoping are on the brink of blowing this fustercluck wide open and saving my poor, weary country...but are their hands tied here, as they feel they have to protect this mobster, since he's kinda sorta one of theirs? Oy, he's a CIA ASSET, eh?

Does this explain those "ashen faces"?
(cuz I bet I'm lookin a little pale myself right now...)

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