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BumRushDaShow

(128,921 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:44 PM Feb 2017

Breaking: Vitaly Churkin, Russia's ambassador to UN, dies suddenly at 64

Moscow (CNN)The Russian ambassador to the United Nations, Vitaly Ivanovich Churkin, died suddenly in New York on Monday the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

He was 64 and died one day before his 65th birthday.

"The outstanding Russian diplomat died while he was in his current working role," the Foreign Ministry said in a statement. "We offer our condolences to the relatives of Vitaly Ivanovich Churkin."

Matthew Rycroft, the British ambassador to the UN, called Churkin's deah the loss of a "diplomatic giant."
Developing story - more to come

CNN's Richard Roth contributed to this report.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/20/europe/russia-un-ambassador-vitaly-churkin-dead/index.html


The game is afoot.
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Breaking: Vitaly Churkin, Russia's ambassador to UN, dies suddenly at 64 (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 OP
Hmm Putin has taken out someone that knows too much about the doc03 Feb 2017 #1
He must have met with the some or all of the Drumpf crew BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #3
whoopsie! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2017 #2
KGOP Koverup Klan on a rampage? Achilleaze Feb 2017 #4
The Trump/Putin death count is rising daily. Kingofalldems Feb 2017 #5
Anywhere - at any time - my what an evil web they weave.. asiliveandbreathe Feb 2017 #6
oh oh bdamomma Feb 2017 #7
He's been in that position since 2006 BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #9
thanks bdamomma Feb 2017 #37
The Russian consul to Greece also died. GliderGuider Feb 2017 #13
Probably ricin. Polonium would have taken longer. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #8
Any connection to this incident, I wonder? GliderGuider Feb 2017 #10
I remember seeing that story BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #12
Wow - Evil is Afoot Achilleaze Feb 2017 #17
When they make the movie, that will be the opening scene Dream Girl Feb 2017 #19
Farther down in the story, he is ID'd as the senior IT guy in the consulate...electronic security. hedda_foil Feb 2017 #30
I'm liking this. A bit of a plot twist. Dream Girl Feb 2017 #34
wow bdamomma Feb 2017 #38
All that's missing is if the Russians moved their embassy to Trump Tower. hedda_foil Feb 2017 #42
you know bdamomma Feb 2017 #43
Either a crazy coincidence or something that definitely is not. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2017 #11
or the russian mob. mopinko Feb 2017 #24
You say Vince Foster Mr. Ected Feb 2017 #14
Could be too many good restaurants in NYC dalton99a Feb 2017 #15
3 recent Russian deaths... GliderGuider Feb 2017 #16
Don't forget the Russian Ambassador to Turkey BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #18
Yup. GliderGuider Feb 2017 #23
trump knows this, which is why he takes such pains not to offend Putin brush Feb 2017 #28
Re Jeb's oppo operation, he DID have extremely good intel on the Trump/Putin connection. hedda_foil Feb 2017 #32
Maybe if he had released it he might not have had to drop out. What the hell. brush Feb 2017 #36
wow, killing off these officials, and putting their moles in place? sounds all premediated doesn't bdamomma Feb 2017 #39
Kinda looks that way. GliderGuider Feb 2017 #40
it is horribly bdamomma Feb 2017 #44
Proof that this is NOT a reality TV show. lindysalsagal Feb 2017 #20
It could be alcoholism...Or something else relatively "natural"... haele Feb 2017 #21
See posts #16 & #18 BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #22
Understood. It is naturally suspicious. haele Feb 2017 #25
Putin's far reaching tentacles. "Bugged" homes, offices and vehicles. oasis Feb 2017 #26
RIP! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #27
... and the russian bots go wild. yodermon Feb 2017 #29
Well, that's convenient for someone, I'm sure. MineralMan Feb 2017 #31
Am expecting a ramp up of moves in Ukraine. BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #33
If trumpco had contact with this Ambassador (they likely did) they're Kahuna7 Feb 2017 #35
I guess it COULD have been from natural causes DFW Feb 2017 #41

doc03

(35,332 posts)
1. Hmm Putin has taken out someone that knows too much about the
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:47 PM
Feb 2017

Trump Kremlin connection. What do you think?

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
6. Anywhere - at any time - my what an evil web they weave..
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:51 PM
Feb 2017

Pootie...now why did you have to go and do that.....would you? - could you? Did you? I Just gots to know....

RESIST!!!!!!!!

BumRushDaShow

(128,921 posts)
9. He's been in that position since 2006
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:56 PM
Feb 2017

If you google stories, you'll see links to sites like RT and Sputnik news come up.

bdamomma

(63,846 posts)
37. thanks
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 08:46 PM
Feb 2017

this is just too creepy, I wouldn't put anything past this trump mob family, oh and Putin. I wonder if a autopsy is warranted.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
10. Any connection to this incident, I wonder?
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:56 PM
Feb 2017
The Strange Case Of The Russian Diplomat Who Got His Head Smashed In On Election Day

NEW YORK — He was found just before 7 a.m. on Election Day, lying on the floor of the Russian Consulate on the Upper East Side.

The man was unconscious and unresponsive, with an unidentified head wound — “blunt force trauma,” in cop parlance. By the time emergency responders reached him, he was dead.

Initial reports said the nameless man had plunged to his death from the roof of the consulate. As journalists rushed to the scene, consular officials quickly changed the narrative. The anonymous man had not fallen dozens of feet from the roof of the consular building, they said, but rather had suffered a heart attack in the security office, and died.

By the time the man’s body left the morgue the next day, Donald J. Trump was president-elect of the United States. It was the culmination of a sensational, bitterly divisive political campaign that US intelligence agencies would later say Russia actively sought to manipulate and skew in Trump’s favor. With the election results, the world had turned upside down, and the death of the man at the consulate quickly faded from view.

BumRushDaShow

(128,921 posts)
12. I remember seeing that story
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:58 PM
Feb 2017

IMHO, Putin is about to go into Ukraine big time and he's paving the way in the Security Council. I am sure that Nikki Haley has been given her marching orders.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
19. When they make the movie, that will be the opening scene
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:09 PM
Feb 2017

The security guard on the phone after his break. Then goes up to the roof where he is pushed to his death. Cut to tv broadcasts of election night.

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
30. Farther down in the story, he is ID'd as the senior IT guy in the consulate...electronic security.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:04 PM
Feb 2017

Electronic Security, not building security.

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
42. All that's missing is if the Russians moved their embassy to Trump Tower.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:24 PM
Feb 2017

The truly mind bending part is that it's believable that it could actually happen.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
11. Either a crazy coincidence or something that definitely is not.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:57 PM
Feb 2017

Occam's Razor in most circumstances would say coincidence, but I wonder if Mr. Occam ever met Mr. Putin.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
16. 3 recent Russian deaths...
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:02 PM
Feb 2017

A Russian consulate employee in New York on Nov. 8
The Russian Consul in Greece on Jan 9
Vitaly Churkin on Feb. 20

As Ian Fleming (I think) said, "Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is enemy action."

brush

(53,776 posts)
28. trump knows this, which is why he takes such pains not to offend Putin
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:37 PM
Feb 2017

It could happen to him or a family member.

Which is all the more reason we need to get his compromised ass out of the presidency — his whole Russian-affiliated crew for that matter.

HTF did our country come to this?

Never mind, don't tell, I know — Comey, Putin, vote suppression, etc.

I blame the repug party too for not vetting this clown. 16 effin candidates and none of them had sense enough to do decent oppo research on trump.

Jeb Bush had plenty of money to do it, and should have been chomping at the bit to do after the way trump kept punking him during the primaries, and little Mario too for that matter.

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
32. Re Jeb's oppo operation, he DID have extremely good intel on the Trump/Putin connection.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:13 PM
Feb 2017

One of his superPACs was likely the original funder of the Steele dossier. When he dropped out, it went to Hillary's operation.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
40. Kinda looks that way.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 09:09 PM
Feb 2017

Maybe they were thinking of the USA as Ukraine 2.0, with more subversion and psyops, but fewer tanks. They have almost succeeded.

bdamomma

(63,846 posts)
44. it is horribly
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 11:47 PM
Feb 2017

stunning how corrupt and scandalous they are and with all these illegal events going on. Putin is just going ahead with his own agenda while we are distracted by other things. We will be incapacitated to do anything against Russia, and Putin is just sitting back watching how our country is slowing deteriorating.

haele

(12,650 posts)
21. It could be alcoholism...Or something else relatively "natural"...
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:11 PM
Feb 2017

But in light of the current political events and Russian "fingerprints" found behind destabilizing nationalist efforts all over the world there's going to be a high amount of suspicion and concern as to "why now", "what's going on", and "what is being covered up"?

Haele

BumRushDaShow

(128,921 posts)
22. See posts #16 & #18
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:13 PM
Feb 2017

This is the 4th incident of a diplomat related to NATO countries (U.S., Greece, Turkey).

haele

(12,650 posts)
25. Understood. It is naturally suspicious.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:23 PM
Feb 2017

It is also suspiciously natural for a Russian male. That's what's so frustrating.
If counting the previous deaths, this is still only a 70/30 chance of being a political clean-up, which is not a straightforward A=B supposition. More like a C = A + 2 or B + 1 equation.

So we still need to be cautious when connecting the dots.

Haele

oasis

(49,382 posts)
26. Putin's far reaching tentacles. "Bugged" homes, offices and vehicles.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:33 PM
Feb 2017

Was Churkin privately uttering less than flattering remarks about Vladimir?

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
29. ... and the russian bots go wild.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:43 PM
Feb 2017


A pro-Trump twitter bot network gets to work sharing news of Churkin's demise, for some reason

BumRushDaShow

(128,921 posts)
33. Am expecting a ramp up of moves in Ukraine.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:21 PM
Feb 2017

and all will be "quiet on the Western front" when that happens.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
41. I guess it COULD have been from natural causes
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 09:16 PM
Feb 2017

But with all the other crap coming out of there, who's gonna believe it?

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