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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:47 PM

LAS14 (12,908 posts)

Who'da thunk that John McCain would become one of my heroes?

Why??? Because he was the first person, that I heard, anyway, to speak out on national TV to point out that attacking the press is the first step toward dictatorship.

This thought has been swirling in my head for weeks.... how we're sounding more and more like a 3rd world country. I hope we can figure out ways to fight back. But I'm not sure we can... The one thing that gives me hope is that we, unlike these dictatorships, have an alternative identity. We were all taught about the inscription on the statue of liberty, "Give me your tired...."

I long for the days when the GOP was mostly a very misguided but (I thought) well motivated opposing political party. Not a collection of ignorance. I wait and wait for more GOPers to say "enough!!"

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/19/donald-trump-john-mccain-media-enemy-of-the-people/98126656/

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18 replies	Author	Time	Post
Who'da thunk that John McCain would become one of my heroes? (Original post)	LAS14	Feb 2017	OP
Mclame says a lot of things	BumRushDaShow	Feb 2017	#1
Yeah, I'd expect that. I don't admire him for his...	LAS14	Feb 2017	#3
He likes being on TV every week	BumRushDaShow	Feb 2017	#4
He does this every once in a while but	doc03	Feb 2017	#2
He will be a hero when he backs up his words with action.	neverforget	Feb 2017	#5
Right	meadowlark5	Feb 2017	#10
My sentiments exactly	wryter2000	Feb 2017	#17
He bounces back and forth	njhoneybadger	Feb 2017	#6
"No, ma'am. He's a decent family man and citizen..."	lapucelle	Feb 2017	#7
He voted yes for Sessions, deVos, Carson	exboyfil	Feb 2017	#8
See my response #3	LAS14	Feb 2017	#9
Until he starts caucusing with the Democrats to defeat legislation designed to forward Trump's	Aristus	Feb 2017	#11
The point is that there is more at stake than Trump's...	LAS14	Feb 2017	#13
I agree. There is an enormous amount at stake.	Aristus	Feb 2017	#14
He will break your heart	California_Republic	Feb 2017	#12
Next ask him how good a running-mate Palin was.	Orsino	Feb 2017	#15
Talk is cheap.	50 Shades Of Blue	Feb 2017	#16
He knows right from wrong	world wide wally	Feb 2017	#18

Response to LAS14 (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:48 PM

BumRushDaShow (107,559 posts)

1. Mclame says a lot of things

but votes straight R no matter what.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:50 PM

LAS14 (12,908 posts)

3. Yeah, I'd expect that. I don't admire him for his...

... political positions, but for his take on the foundations of our democracy. He said it out loud!

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:52 PM

BumRushDaShow (107,559 posts)

4. He likes being on TV every week

If he really believed in the foundations, then he would stop voting for everything his party does to shake or destroy those foundations.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:50 PM

doc03 (32,719 posts)

2. He does this every once in a while but

when his job is threatened he backs down.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:56 PM

neverforget (9,418 posts)

5. He will be a hero when he backs up his words with action.

Until then, it's all talk.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:17 PM

meadowlark5 (2,795 posts)

10. Right

He can flap his lips all he wants and sound rational, provide hope. But until he actually does something to back up his words, it's useless. It will all be lost in the daily Trump shit show.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:34 PM

wryter2000 (44,736 posts)

17. My sentiments exactly

We only needed one more Senator to block DeVos. When McCain actually does something I'll consider whether he's a hero or not.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:56 PM

njhoneybadger (3,903 posts)

6. He bounces back and forth

like a tennis ball.Next week he could say the exact opposite.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:59 PM

lapucelle (14,897 posts)

7. "No, ma'am. He's a decent family man and citizen..."

I always admired McCain for his defense of Obama in the 2008 general election campaign.

http://www.politico.com/story/2008/10/mccain-obama-not-an-arab-crowd-boos-014479

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:09 PM

exboyfil (17,497 posts)

8. He voted yes for Sessions, deVos, Carson

Every nominee except OMB (No) and EPA (No Vote because of European meeting). The OMB vote was because of defense spending (Mulvaney resisted additional spending).

No hero.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:11 PM

LAS14 (12,908 posts)

9. See my response #3

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:20 PM

Aristus (61,034 posts)

11. Until he starts caucusing with the Democrats to defeat legislation designed to forward Trump's

agenda, he'll just be all talk. And talk is cheap.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:23 PM

LAS14 (12,908 posts)

13. The point is that there is more at stake than Trump's...

... legislative agenda. It's not too much of a stretch to see a dictatorship evolve as executive employees are fired for lack of loyalty to Trump, as faith in our press erodes under his constant onslaught.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:25 PM

Aristus (61,034 posts)

14. I agree. There is an enormous amount at stake.

McCain refusing to rubber-stamp Trump's administration is just one of many ways by which we would be able to protect those things.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:22 PM

California_Republic (1,826 posts)

12. He will break your heart

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:32 PM

Orsino (37,428 posts)

15. Next ask him how good a running-mate Palin was.

McCain will always break your heart if you let him in.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:34 PM

50 Shades Of Blue (8,097 posts)

16. Talk is cheap.

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:47 PM

world wide wally (21,232 posts)

18. He knows right from wrong

Then chooses to say what is right and do what is wrong

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