I have close, hard-working, truly decent friends who are about to be deported.

[Jakes Progress]

They are lovely people. They are good and kind and compassionate. They are about to have their lives turned into shit because of the sheer hate and ignorance and greed of trump and the braindead, soulless, drooling assholes who helped elect him.

I am mad a hell. I can't bring myself to speak with anyone - republican or democrat - who had anything to do with bringing about the destruction of the American dream.

If you voted for trump, you belong in hell. If you didn't vote because you thought Hillary was not your cup of tea, you need to hang your head in shame. If you voted for one of the idiot third party candidates, you are shit.

I cannot bring the words to describe how I feel about the ruined lives. Don't tell me that we have to fight. I am. But it is too late for these blameless people. I feel horrible for the ones I know and can only despair at how their misery is multiplied across the county because of the wretched people who helped trump into the white house.

If you fall into any of the categories above, just go fuck yourselves and die. You truly suck.

[Cha]

1. I agree.. I'm pissed

too

So sorry about your friends and everyone who's being deported.:

[bdamomma]

73. This should not be happening in the

US, people with brains are not going to take this shit? We liberals are peacefully protesting but there is a limit, seems like we liberals are going to be at the receiving end of this regimes sick agenda, We will stand up for those who are more vulnerable.

YES I AM UPSET!!!!!!!
Cha! just trying to calm down.

[Cha]

74. Fascists trying to take over America and the World like

a putin.

Pissed, too.. It's cathartic to post, though.

bdamomma~

[bravenak]

2. I agree. I am so enraged I cannot formulate the words to describe the feeling

[Jakes Progress]

7. All I can think of

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is how much hate I am wasting on the stupid assholes who sat out the election or voted third party. I don't like holding that much hate, but it is easier to deal with than the sorrow and despair.

[bravenak]

12. Me too. Besides, they hated us first, for trying to help them!

[brer cat]

33. Looking back

is like moving into a surreal parallel universe. You, 1SBM, many others who were trying to educate, to explain, to reason, to simply cut through the bullshit, were stalked, harassed, ultimately silenced over and over. The danger in a badly fractured Democratic party, especially marginalizing people of color, was there to see but killing the messenger shut down the message.

As one who always lived sheltered and protected by white privilege, I cannot put myself in the shoes of Jakes Progress' friends, only feel and share his anger and disgust that people's lives are willfully being turned to shit. But you can: how far removed from stop and frisk is "your papers, please"? How long before profiling by skin color becomes profiling by gender identity, by head coverings? Who will be next? We must all stand beside minorities for resistance to be effective, and hatred for the messenger must not silence the message.

[sarcasmo]

3. My hairstylists who owns his own business is in panic mode.

[Wellstone ruled]

4. Same for us.

Two Fellows own Business's for many years and Employ several Specialized workers. Each have homes and their Children are teenagers with a couple going to the local College. Am sure there are hundreds more like these two Guy's.

[world wide wally]

5. They have contributed more to America than the Trumps have

[SammyWinstonJack]

8. +1000000! Despise tRump and his rotten supporters.

[iluvtennis]

21. +1000000! Totally agree. It is just shameful. My heart aches and aches. nt

[madokie]

34. And that is the Truth

[Charles Bukowski]

81. The Trumps have contributed negatively to this country.

[DesertFlower]

6. i'm pissed too. i don't know anyone personally,

but there are people who work in the kitchen of the restaurant i eat in that are undocumented.

[scscholar]

10. People with jobs shouldn't be deported!

They are criminals, but there are so many worse criminals like gun owners that they should be last on the list.

[DesertFlower]

17. even if they don't have jobs they should not

be deported. many are parents who brought their children here. some are elderly now.

[gopiscrap]

29. agree about the gun owners, all gun owners should be deported

[DesertFlower]

31. you want to deport me. i'm a gun owner.

[gopiscrap]

32. I have no use for fucking gun humpers

most of them suck the asshole of the NRA and are part of the problem of violence here in the USA

[jmg257]

36. When they came for the gun owners...I did nothing. Hate and bigotry take many forms,

but that's OK - just send the 80-100 million packing! Gun owners, or Latinos, or Blacks, whatever...

[FiveGoodMen]

46. If you're going to paraphrase like that...

"When they came for the Nazis, I did nothing."

(It really does matter who they're coming for)

((And none of the people they're coming for now deserve the treatment they're getting))

[jmg257]

64. Yup - haven't even heard someone asking to deport all Nazis.

But all gun owners? Sure why not.


Very troubling.

[yagotme]

69. I'm a gun owner.

Should I be packing a few things up?

[jmg257]

70. Naa - we're good. Just people expressing their notions of evil. nt

[yagotme]

71. Whew. They had me worried there for a bit.

[DesertFlower]

61. i'm an american citizen (born here) who owns

a handgun for personal protection. sorry if this upsets some people.

[sarisataka]

67. Deported where?

[sarisataka]

66. Gun owners are criminals

?

[Doreen]

9. My heart goes to your friends and also to you.

I know how you feel. Maybe on a different level but I do know the anger.

[LuckyLib]

11. And many people who are cowering in their homes, afraid to be "out". Their children are terrified,

and life is about trying to get to work and back home without being picked up for a tail-light that is out, or contact with someone who doesn't like how you look. I heard an interview with a woman who asks her neighbor to get her groceries for her. Have we come to this?

I hear you -- this is terrifying, horrific, and very sad.

[RoadhogRidesAgain]

13. To be honest

I have more hatred for the "leftist" morons I saw on social media spreading the bullshit false comparisons between trump and Hillary then I do for the trump voters. These people are too stupid to live.

[Jakes Progress]

14. I know.

Stupid and mean is not a way to live.

There is still a lot of that stuff here on DU. All the crap about how bad Hillary is. People like Susan Sarandon should just crawl in a hole and rot. These are assholes who profess progressivism, but don't know any immigrants or have any friends who will be ruined by their actions. It is all abstract to them in their isolation. Fuck them.

[RoadhogRidesAgain]

19. .

The truth is that the Democratic Party isn't entitled to their votes. I accept that. But these third party gas lighters did far more than just abstain from voting for Hillary. They actively spent more time trashing Hillary on social media then they did supporting their own candidate. They spent far more energy trying to split up the left then they did trying to take down trump, and that's what really bothered me. Some I even saw aligning with Trump. They were either Russian shill accounts or truly idiotic assholes.

[Tom Rinaldo]

35. Well said. I look forward to many more posts from you in the coming months and years

Welcome to DU.

[2naSalit]

15. I have relatives who are wondering if they will be deported

as well as dear friends whom I consider family.

I was born here to US parents but I don't feel safe either.

[iluvtennis]

22. +1000! Cuz we don't know who's next. We gotta resist this shit. nt

[bettyellen]

18. Criminals? What the fuck?

[Brother Buzz]

23. That one's mainspring was wound to tight

[haele]

25. Anyone who lives in a border town knows people who can be deported.

My granddaughter goes to school with a boy who's mother and uncle are in the limbo between a visa and naturalization, while other members of that same family - including the mother's uncle, are natural born citizens. The family is large, and has settled here - spanning the border for generations. So, is it right to tell a helpful cousin between jobs he now can't just go 5 miles to stay with and help Abuelo - Grandpa - for a couple weeks because Grandpa was born in the U.S. and he wasn't?

I know of three military spouses who have visa issues, and could easily be deported if something happened to their spouse on active duty. Even though spousal visas are supposed to be expidite the naturalization system, at least two are still having problems with the background checks because they weren't from well off families in third world countries where record-keeping is haphazard at best, and potentially corrupted depending on if your family is on the good side of whatever regime is in power or not.

I also know a long-time resident with two US born children who overstayed a spouse visa when she got divorced from her abusive husband before finishing the naturalization process - she stayed because she had started a lucrative specialty business, and had a huge wealthy local clientele. Since she's from Scotland, no one seems to mind one bit that she never got around to finish applying for citizenship. She's got an expired visa number that she uses to pay state and Federal income taxes on, so eventually if she wants to get her Social Security and Medicare, she'll have to fess up, pay the fine and fees, and get her citizenship straightened out.
As I said, she probably doesn't have to worry about deportation, even though she's still here "illegally".

So yes, there are good people whose lives are going to be destroyed because of President Bannon and his mouthpiece Drumpf.
And I have more than one nice, law-abiding relative of a certain age that would not refuse the rope to a mob intent on lynching a lesser person for being un-naturally uppity. I know too well how many good, kind, godly people will overlook a multitude of sins in someone who will re-enforce their deep prejudices and give them someone who can't fight back to blame and step on for their hurt and confusion.

People who voted for Drumpf bought the wood on which to burn the Constitution and "Justice for All" in the US - no matter if they did it intentionally because they were racist, sexist bigots who yearn for an Autocracy where they can be above the Law, or because they were fearful or angry and wanted to break something to feel stronger and in control.

I wouldn't want anyone who voted for this Russian tool of Chaos and Mammon over a typical American politician to die, but I do want them to have to learn to realize they have to own to what they do in life and how it affects the only real world they and their families have to live in.
Especially not those who believe prosperous-looking false profits who lie with honey tongues, simple morals, and a multitude of easy enemies that are always to blame.

And sometimes, when I see the real long-term destruction and pain done to people and the environment because too many people were butt-hurt that there's a big, uncomfortable world around them they can't control or shut out, well - I might not be as nice and forgiving as I normally am.

Haele

[ProudProgressiveNow]

20. K&R nt

[Stonepounder]

24. The real problem is that 'legally' they have no recourse.

Much as I hate and despise what Trump is doing, these poor people have no 'legal' recourse. We have gone for years and years with a wink and a nod because so many undocumenteds help drive our economy. The vast majority of them are hard working, good, decent, folk who came her to build better lives or escape horiffic situations in their native country. But there were damn few legal avenues for them to actually get a green card or citizenship. They worked hard, paid their taxes, and were respected members of their community.

But no President had the nerve to try and change the laws and give them an actual path to legality. And then we get Trump. And as furious as we are with his noxious lack of any feelings for anyone but Trump, there is absolutely nothing that we, or the deportees can do, because the 'law' is clear. If you don't have papers showing you are in the country legally, you are subject to deportation, regardless of how long you have lived in this country.

I hate it!

[Jakes Progress]

38. That isn't the real problem.

The real problem is that our nation is becoming meaner, nastier, stupider, and less decent. Too many are able to let these people be just abstract arguing points. Give a listen to Woody Guthrie's song Deportees.

And it isn't that a president didn't try. Yes, it could have been a bigger push, but Obama tried to engage the congress in immigration reform, and even though his suggestion was to use the mostly republican plan for immigration reform, the ass hat republicans used my friends as political warfare against any progress under a black president. Obama actually executive ordered a portion that would end a good part of the heartache. Then godless assholes in Texas found a KKK judge to block it.

No. There are two villains here. Soulless republicans (I know - redundant) and lefties who either didn't vote for Hillary or spent the primary after February trashing her. I'm not feeling very christian right now, so I just wish the pain their actions have caused to so many to be visited upon them. Hey. Not perfect here. But the republicans and mindless lefties did the crime. My friends didn't do anything to anybody.

[Stonepounder]

39. You can blame whoever you want, but I stand by my original comment.

There has always been a segment of the population that hated 'the other'. We have used immigrants to do our scut work for hundreds of years. And then, periodically, we convince ourselves that they are horrible people and all criminals who climb in through the windows at night to rape our wimmen and steal our goods. Trump governs by appealing to the worst of us. But my point was not the why, but the cold, hard fact that there is no legal recourse for all these millions of folks who just wanted to come here and make a better life for themselves and/or escape the horrendous life they had originally.

And yes, I know Deportee, although I prefer the Joan Baez version. Woody Guthrie was a phenomenal song writer, but only a so-so singer. (IMHO)

[Jakes Progress]

50. Your comment wasn't wrong.

I just think the blame falls on the soulless republicans who had an immigration plan ready and stopped backing it just because it might give some credit to Obama.

I prefer the Arlo Guthrie version. Woody is an acquired taste. Joan had an angel's voice.

[Stonepounder]

60. Oh, I love Woody. His songs and his singing.

Just prefer Joan on Deportee. Probably because she is the one I remember singing it.

[peequod]

26. I hear ya, brother

It dawned on me very recently--I mean really sank in--that if you are supporting the Repub deportations, after all of the goddamn years the Republicans had to broker some form of immigration reform with Democrats, and then now it's: hurry up and get the fuck out? then I can only conclude that you don't like Latinos, which makes you a racist. Where are the "moderate" John McCain types calling for a reasoned reform? They don't exist. The Republicans are unable to defend themselves from the charge--they have all of the political power to create legitimate reform, a path to citizenship, and they are now, finally showing their true rotten colors, that is, they don't want reform, they want Latinos the hell out, damn the consequences, personal, political, and economic.

[notdarkyet]

27. Well good luck to employers when they can't get help. There are dozens of help wanted signs all over

My town but they pay eight dollars an hour. We are a right to work state. Border state low wages. But them leaving is not going to increase jobs or wages.

[Lanius]

55. I see the same "Wanted" signs in my old town. The thing is they can probably hire an American right

away but they won't keep them long for $7-9 an hour. Those industries have high turnover, especially when it comes to American workers, who will work those jobs only until they find something better or get sick of it. These companies that have relied on cheap labor will have to raise their pay to get and keep quality people.

[Kablooie]

28. And it's STUPID! There's no reason on earth for doing this!

It achieves nothing except damaging people's lives.
A not just the familIes. All the friends and associates. And what about all the employers that suddenly start losing workers and can't find Replacements? Crops will go Unharvested. Hotels will remain uncleaned. Restaurants will have more mess than the have staff to manage it. And these are just the stereotyped jobs. There are many more skilled jobs that rely on immigrant workers also.

I think anyone that voted for Trump should forced to take a job that is vacant because an immigrant worker was deported. These are the jobs they voted for so they should be required to fill them.

[anarch]

41. well, it will be great for the for-profit prison industry

Republican values in action!

It will seriously fuck up the economy for the most part, especially in combination with the idiotic and anachronistic trade policies that these imbeciles seem intent on implementing, but in the short term it will make money for those who are determined to profit from human misery.

[AllaN01Bear]

30. the first question the rs always ask " are they here leagly"?

[workinclasszero]

44. Someone ask the native American tribes

If we are here legally.

Well the tribes that managed to escape the govt sanctioned genocide against them anyway.

[Initech]

37. This whole thing is illegal and immoral and wrong.

[HAB911]

40. I lost five friends over this election

and have even blocked them from calling my telephone number. I warned them this was coming.

[Jakes Progress]

48. Me too. Some family

that I may never speak to again. Their blind stupidity is stronger than blood. The pain they casually caused can't be erased.

[yardwork]

80. I dropped a lifelong friend. He descended into hatred and bigotry.

[WillowTree]

42. That's terrible. Why are they being targeted?

[Jakes Progress]

49. Because they are brown in Texas.

Problems caused years ago because of language barriers. We have way too many that spend their time looking for people to hurt. It seems to make them feel good. I do not understand how an INS agent sleeps at night, let alone the snitches and finks that supply them with the names of children and mothers to go after.

[workinclasszero]

43. I agree

Trump and the republicans can't wait to attack and destroy the lives and families of some of the hardest working people in this country. It's what those POS live for.

This is all about skin color, period.

[BeckyDem]

45. It is tragic and disgusting, the people who voted for him or third party have enabled this mess.

[Jakes Progress]

47. I even blame the ones who finally voted for Hillary

after trashing her to all their friends for months. When you have undecideds who hear people they think are liberals talk trash about Hillary it strengthens their prejudice and stupidity. Too many liberals spent most of the Spring and Summer convincing others not to vote for Hillary.

I know that the concept of unions is foreign to many today, but there was a reason that solidarity was why they worked. If you are not rich and privileged, the only power you have is solidarity. Too many people who think of themselves as decent let this happen.

[BeckyDem]

51. I like Hillary so she was my choice. I thought Oprah said it best, you do not have to like

her. Do you love your country? If you do, there was no other choice but Hillary.

I mean come on, no Trump, no Bannon, no Sessions and all the rest. It was a no brainer. All Trump ever stood for was bad, all of it. It broke my heart to see us lose.

[onecaliberal]

76. Exactly, it was a no fucking brainer...

[BeckyDem]

77. I know, right? He wasn't even like a Reagan, all nice and polite, always saying nice things.

He was a damn pig who cheated people with a phony school and abused women!

[onecaliberal]

82. Yes and your description of him is much more diplomatic than mine.

Absolute piece of maggot shit.

[still_one]

52. You could not have said it better. Hopefully, the ACLU or other legal group can put the brakes on

this insanity

[CountAllVotes]

58. They need to do this or move to Connecticut!

Great idea. There must be more ideas out there. Any other suggestions?

[heaven05]

53. ++ ON THE trumpheads, YOU SUCK!!!!

you hateful, useless bastards who knew that racism guided the boy-potus and those that were then still behind the scenes, especially prezidents bannon and miller. Media knew these racist pigs were guiding their boy-potus puppet and never said a goddamn thing. I watched a part of a segment where colbert had morning snowjob on recently lightly lamenting the chaos and lies...that POS along with his cohost helped create this horror show. I am so disgusted with the pain and misery the MSM has brought on millions of people by denial, allowing lies and deception to become truth and normalizing the racist hate your friends have to live with for no good reason at all...sad and depressing

[BeckyDem]

59. CBS CEO, Trump may be bad for America, but he is great for business.

I rest my case.

[Starry Messenger]

54. I count my students every school day and breathe easier when I realize they are all still there.

I have harsh anxiety about ICE coming to the school--I spitball scenarios in my head.

I cosign your post.

[lapucelle]

78. ICE has been taping video of kids getting off the school buses in my school district.

We thought that it might be someone taping children in order to target them for sexual exploitation, so we called the police.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

[Lanius]

56. What about Dreamers with undocumented parents?

AFAIK the Dreamers are supposedly protected from deportation, but what about their parents? Are we effectively orphaning Dreamers under 18 who have undocumented parents living in the United States? Or are at least the parents of Dreamers who are minors being spared? Something tells me "no" but I haven't read the law in its entirety.

[CountAllVotes]

57. A non-relative of mine was a life-long Democrat

She loved those stock market returns under Pres. Obama but she secretly hates him because he is a Black man.

Stupid her voted for tRump as her pig kid told her to and she decided to vote for him because she embraced the HRC lies.

However, when her husband was dying she had no problem paying some guy $1000.00 to care for him around the clock for a few weeks. She went so far as to attempt to write it off on her income taxes as a medical expense. The accountant wanted to know if he had a social security # and she said, "not yet".

The accountant told her best not to mention it and she "let it go".

Hmph.

These are the sorts that voted for tRump.

There are too many and with either too much that want more and they possess a hatred of anyone out there that does not fit into this mold. I want nothing to do with these people and I have eliminated them from my life personally, "non-relative" mentioned above included in the mix.

I can think of others as well but they share a few things: Want of more more more, never having enough and a hatred of others that is so deep seated that personally I am confounded by it -- in fact I find it to be frightening.

In the meantime you wonder why that guy out there without a job nor a home even bothers with a country that for all practical purposes hates him/her don't you? Well I know I wonder that is for certain, perhaps that is because I am one of them myself.

Most people in this situation do not care to vote as it is irrelevant to them. Can I blame them? Must I hate them? No I cannot and will not envelop myself into this sick mentality of hatred either.

Sad world we live in and I am sorry about what has happened to all involved in your situation. It really does suck, uh huh. Perhaps it will change is my hope for you.

[UTUSN]

62. Are 54 Recs all this gets?

[Squinch]

63. This makes me tear up. I am hearing that emergency rooms in immigrant neighborhoods

in the Bronx are eerily empty these days. How many families with children and old people are not risking getting the medical help they need because they are afraid?

These people who are doing this to them are evil. And I agree with you about the ones who handed them the power to exercise their hellish cruelty.

[Jakes Progress]

65. Evil is exactly the right word.

They are the worst part of the human race. These are the people who would have cheered the trains to Auschwitz.

Those that enabled this election need to do penance. If someone voted third party, or for trump, or didn't vote, or spent any time past February trashing Hillary, they need to quit your job and begin working full time to make up for that sin. They caused more pain than they can ever atone for.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

68. deportation is not an answer n/t

[Demsrule86]

72. I feel exactly the same way...those who helped in this endeavor have blood on

their hands...GOP or Stein supporter.

[adigal]

75. Where do you live? I am offering sanctuary. I am in upstate NY nt

[yardwork]

79. I agree with you and I am sorry for your friends. This is wrong.

[bigtree]

83. k&r