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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:04 AM Feb 2017

There are actually 9 dead Russians in the last 2 months, not 7.

These nine Russians have either been murdered, died suddenly or vanished into the depths of the Lubyanka prison in the last two months
1: Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s Ambassador to the UN. officially of a heart attack. Feb 20, 2017.

2: Sergei Krivov, employee of Russian consulate in NY. Officially of heart attack despite his skull having been bashed in. May have fallen from consulate roof. Feb. 15, 2017

3, 4, 5: Kaspersky employee Ruslan Stoyanov and FSB officers who specialised in cyber security, Sergei Mikhailov and Dmitry Dokuchayev. Sergei Mikhailov were charged with treason. Mikhailov was dragged out of a meeting with a bag over his head, and is now now almost certainly dead. Odds are the other two gentlemen followed close behind. Jan 23, 2017

6: Andrey Melanin, Russian Consul in Greece was found dead in his Athens apartment. Jan 9, 2017

7: Oleg Erovinkin, a former KGB General who had helped Chris Steele assemble the infamous dossier. Found dead in the trunk of his car in Moscow. Dec. 26, 2016

8. Andrey Karlov, Russian Ambassador to Turkey, murdered on live television. Dec. 20 2016

9. Petr Polshikov Russian diplomat, was found shot to death in Moscow. Dec. 20, 2016 (just after Karlov's murder).

I have read in several places that they are all connected to the Steele dossier, but I have been unable to confirm that for myself. Nonetheless, this is a lot of sudden exits.

Dead men tell no tales.

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There are actually 9 dead Russians in the last 2 months, not 7. (Original Post) GliderGuider Feb 2017 OP
And, nobody to investigate that in Russia I'm guessing. Just like Cha Feb 2017 #1
US intelligence copromised Johnny2X2X Feb 2017 #2
My guess is that the three cyber guys were shopped by Flynn GliderGuider Feb 2017 #3
Really makes ya want to read the transcript of that call with Russian Amb. n/t CincyDem Feb 2017 #4
why would Flynn out them? He was working with them. brush Feb 2017 #14
Flynn outed US assets Johnny2X2X Feb 2017 #21
Oh, I agree on that. Flynn may have outed them to Putin, not to our media which is what... brush Feb 2017 #22
If that were true... tmaynardr Feb 2017 #13
Really? 2naSalit Feb 2017 #16
2nd your "really" triron Feb 2017 #30
Flynn in on it? triron Feb 2017 #23
Greenwald and his shitstains at the Intercept were unavailable for comment Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #5
Nothing to see here ..... move on nothing to see here Botany Feb 2017 #6
Two of them right in NYC, Little Donnie's home turf. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #7
Putin's 'foreign service intel' people have a less than desirable retirement program. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #8
The cleaners have been busy. Ford_Prefect Feb 2017 #9
Tweeted out bear425 Feb 2017 #10
The "Godfather" lessons continue: yallerdawg Feb 2017 #11
Benghazi!!! E mails !!!! .... n/t bluecollar2 Feb 2017 #12
I am praying DK504 Feb 2017 #15
That's what I am wondering. ...nt 2naSalit Feb 2017 #18
Well IC has to know something about this flamingdem Feb 2017 #17
Most important post I've read this month. THANK YOU. byronius Feb 2017 #19
Ah, yes.... Aviation Pro Feb 2017 #20
would you share with Rachel of TRMS triron Feb 2017 #24
please, go right ahead. nt GliderGuider Feb 2017 #25
I sent this to her. triron Feb 2017 #33
Devastating and frightening...have they ruled Churkin difinitively asiliveandbreathe Feb 2017 #26
no they have not, it is deemed "under further study", no cause of death given. sunonmars Feb 2017 #27
Toxicology tests underway, I believe - they can take weeks to conclude definitively - eom Leghorn21 Feb 2017 #32
kick for visibility triron Feb 2017 #28
Thank you moondust Feb 2017 #29
K & R Duppers Feb 2017 #31
kick again triron Feb 2017 #34
horrifying. barbtries Feb 2017 #35
Unconfirmed report: Churkin was poisoned GliderGuider Feb 2017 #36
We know that more tests were needed after the autopsy was done to find the cause of death. LisaL Feb 2017 #37
knr triron Feb 2017 #38
This is a little CT, but... GliderGuider Feb 2017 #39
I am definitely holding bdamomma Feb 2017 #40
knr triron Feb 2017 #41
knr triron Feb 2017 #42
FSB is trying kill off the trail to their Siberian candidate. roamer65 Feb 2017 #43
That seems likely. It gives new meaning to the term GliderGuider Feb 2017 #44

Cha

(297,180 posts)
1. And, nobody to investigate that in Russia I'm guessing. Just like
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:07 AM
Feb 2017

here.. nobody wants to investigate trump's deep criminal ties to putin.

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
2. US intelligence copromised
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:08 AM
Feb 2017

What likely has happened is that these men were working with the US and Trumo gave their names to Putin as soon as he took office.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
3. My guess is that the three cyber guys were shopped by Flynn
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:11 AM
Feb 2017

He probably found out about them as he was coming up to speed in his role as National Security Adviser, and promptly outed them. The others? I don't know.

brush

(53,771 posts)
14. why would Flynn out them? He was working with them.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 11:37 AM
Feb 2017

He's lucky he's not Russian or he might be gone.

Seems all the Russians who have knowledge of trump's, shall we say—proclivities, and of the trump campaign's dealings with the Russians are turning up dead.

And Chaffetz and McConnell just want to turn their back on all these dead elephants in the room by not investigating.
What cowards.

And who know if Comey is actually investigating, he could be protecting his own neck? It's been alleged there are Russian moles in the NYC FBI office that forced him to swing the election to trump with the Oct. 28 letter to Chaffetz — whoa, there's another connection right there.

They could be both in on it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
21. Flynn outed US assets
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 12:22 PM
Feb 2017

These were likely Russians who the US was getting info from to help our side. Flynn and Trump start getting intelligence about US assets in Russia and drop a line to Putin to let them know they have moles who are working for the US to further our interests. Putin kills them.

Russia has moles in our government too, but Trump and Flynn are among them so they'll protect them so they can continue to provide Putin with intelligence against us.

brush

(53,771 posts)
22. Oh, I agree on that. Flynn may have outed them to Putin, not to our media which is what...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 12:31 PM
Feb 2017

I thought the OP was suggesting.

tmaynardr

(31 posts)
13. If that were true...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 11:21 AM
Feb 2017

If that were true, the IC would have leaked that information and arrested Trump for treason. No way that is true.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
8. Putin's 'foreign service intel' people have a less than desirable retirement program.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 10:31 AM
Feb 2017

Like dRumpf's organized crime buddies.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
15. I am praying
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 11:49 AM
Feb 2017

the members of the Intelligence are copying all peices of intelligence that is still rolling in and making sure there are no paper shredding incidents. I hope the lifers are gathering their dossiers on this traitorous group of lunatics.

How many Americans will start dying when they come into contact with any intell on the Russian overlords in our governemnt.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
26. Devastating and frightening...have they ruled Churkin difinitively
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:35 PM
Feb 2017

Heart attack? Not sure...my understanding toxology could take weeks....

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
35. horrifying.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 07:51 AM
Feb 2017

it could happen here with these trump people. chilling to consider, but not beyond the realm of possibility. especially since trump is such an admirer of leaders like putin, and hitler. he seems to respect murder as a political tactic.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
36. Unconfirmed report: Churkin was poisoned
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 09:10 AM
Feb 2017

This may not be a reputable site, but the description of organ damage is consistent with a poisoning. We need to wait for confirmation.

http://abs.cbn-tv.com/autopsy-report-reveals-russias-un-envoy-churkin-was-poisoned/

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
37. We know that more tests were needed after the autopsy was done to find the cause of death.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 09:18 AM
Feb 2017

Which to me suggests that poisoning is a possibility, since they are going to do toxicology.

"Further study usually includes toxicology and other screenings, which can take weeks. The case was referred to the medical examiner’s office by the hospital, spokeswoman Julie Bolcer said."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nyc-medical-examiner-says-more-study-needed-in-death-of-russian-diplomat/

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
39. This is a little CT, but...
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:21 PM
Feb 2017

Andrew Breitbart's untimely death in 2012, that allowed Bannon to take control of the Breitbart news organ, bears a strong if superficial resemblance to Churkin's death.

Hmmmmm...

bdamomma

(63,844 posts)
40. I am definitely holding
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:33 PM
Feb 2017

on to this information. Thank you

can someone tell me why I have "ignore member" under my name? Did I accidentally touch something?

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