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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:47 PM Feb 2017

What Is Going To Happen When GOP Abolishes ACA, Guts Medicare, Social Security & Medicaid.

I have hope that the protests give the GOP pause. But I do believe they are going to trash everything. They have 2 years to smash everything and I believe they will do it. And I do not think they are worried about 2018 because they have 2 years to fix the vote permanently in their favor. They believe they are politically bullet proof.

I still see them as being arrogant and vengeful. They are hiding like snakes and will do what Ryan and McConnell tell them to do. McDonnell said it bluntly. Winners make the policy (and we will) and the losers go home.

We will know the landscape when the budget comes out in the near future. And we will see the agenda after the State of the Union message.

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What Is Going To Happen When GOP Abolishes ACA, Guts Medicare, Social Security & Medicaid. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Feb 2017 OP
Millions of people are going to die. Doreen Feb 2017 #1
So? They Do Not Care. Though You Are Probably Right. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2017 #2
That is their wish Angry Dragon Feb 2017 #5
A smaller population is easier to control. haele Feb 2017 #16
They will be looking for more ways to Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #3
I do not think the recons have the faintest idea... chillfactor Feb 2017 #4
I don't think the electoral map is in our favor for that MiniMe Feb 2017 #13
There will be a lot of homeless old folks. In_The_Wind Feb 2017 #6
second amendment remedy underthematrix Feb 2017 #7
Over 90% of incumbents are re-elected each election cycle. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #8
20% approval, 90% re-elected, go figure njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #11
Voters hate Government in general, guillaumeb Feb 2017 #14
I can't imagine Dem turnout being as pathetic Charles Bukowski Feb 2017 #17
True. If 2010 and 2014 were not warning enough........ guillaumeb Feb 2017 #18
there won't be enough money greymattermom Feb 2017 #9
And wrecks public education, and repeals IDEA, Ilsa Feb 2017 #10
The GOP IS the Death Panel we were warned about. flying_wahini Feb 2017 #12
spot on jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #15
none of that matters the important thing is that hillary had an Ohioblue22 Feb 2017 #19

haele

(12,650 posts)
16. A smaller population is easier to control.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:43 PM
Feb 2017

Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Pinochet, Marcos and other dictators understand that quite well.

If you want to live like a king, you have to ensure that you can maintain a balance between your enforcement personnel (police, courts, prison, and bureaucracy) and the rest of the population. Historically, that seems to run on a 1 - 50 ratio. 1 enforcer can affect 50 otherwise affiliated people, broken down into two risk groups - potential activists (working age healthy adults) and non activists (children, disabled, and elderly).

So, the GOP/White Nationalists/Dominionists/Corporatists and all the other fellow travelers have to ensure that for every thousand enforcers they can control, there are only 50 thousand citizens.

Between the for-profit prison system and the for-profit health care system, the hard GOP billionaire's club has probably estimated they have the right ratio to move on the rest of the population of the U.S if they cut the Social Safety Net now and throw the rest of the population into chaos for the next couple years.

They just have to ensure their current recruited enforcement arm is just as corrupt and soul-less as they are; if they start losing their brain-washed thugs through "humanization", they're going down with the rest of the country.

Of course, they're planning an Oligarchy, but if Putin's Russia (or Stalin's Russia) is any example, the total downfall of this country will come from the decades long high-stakes game of "Last Rich Man Standing" that will occur soon after the chaos begins. Our billionaires don't have either the patience or the cultural habits that will allow for a true Party-based Oligarchy like China has gone through.

Haele

chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
4. I do not think the recons have the faintest idea...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:50 PM
Feb 2017

what will happen if they go ahead with their insane plans..I think the people would riot and a capture of both the House and the Senate at mid-terms.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
13. I don't think the electoral map is in our favor for that
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:13 PM
Feb 2017

Too many of the house seats are safe. And not enough repub seats up in the Senate.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. Over 90% of incumbents are re-elected each election cycle.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:58 PM
Feb 2017

The typical uninformed conservative voter will blame whoever Rush Limbaugh says is the guilty party.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
17. I can't imagine Dem turnout being as pathetic
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:05 PM
Feb 2017

as it was in 2010 and 2014.

We have a puncher's chance in 2018.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. True. If 2010 and 2014 were not warning enough........
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:08 PM
Feb 2017

one hopes that 2018 and 2020 show what Democrats can do.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
10. And wrecks public education, and repeals IDEA,
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:01 PM
Feb 2017

Forcing millions of families to keep a working parent at home.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
15. spot on
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:23 PM
Feb 2017

We were the petri dish here in Wisconsin. It is wonderful how people are protesting. But it did not work here... they just used tunnels and pretended we were invisible. Took no calls, emails, etc....no townhalls, etc.

 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
19. none of that matters the important thing is that hillary had an
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:08 PM
Feb 2017

been kept out because she had an unacceptable email so thankfully the smart dems went and voted for stein or harambe of just wrote in bernie sanders or left potus blank. thank god cause we could have remade the courts to our advantage , avoided a muslim ban , kept the treasury from being raided , kept net neutrality, got drug prices lowered , avoided the anti semitism, expanded medicare to all but you know she was imperfect

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