A Trump Rebellion Is Reported to be Brewing Among The Intelligence Community

[babylonsister]

A Trump Rebellion Is Reported to be Brewing Among The Intelligence Community

By Sarah Jones on Wed, Feb 22nd, 2017 at 1:17 pm

"Rebellion is brewing in Washington," Schindler warns of the spy war on the Trump administration. Contrary to Trump's claims that this is a partisan war, "Behind closed doors, plenty of American intelligence experts believe that President Trump is the pawn of the Kremlin..."

John Schindler, a former NSA analyst, has become one of my go-to reads for takes on the intelligence community’s stance in regards to President Trump and his Russian connections. From Schindler, we learned – before it was confirmed by others – that the Intelligence Community (IC) was withholding information from the Trump White House, out of fear that the Kremlin had ears in the Situation Room. This was later confirmed by other sources, just as several of Schindler’s other early takes have been.

On Wednesday, Schindler dropped another tasty seed on the Trump Russia trail. “Rebellion is brewing in Washington,” Schindler warned of the spy war on the Trump administration.

Contrary to Trump’s claims that this is a partisan war, no, it’s partly about his repeated insults to their work but also, “Behind closed doors, plenty of American intelligence experts believe that President Trump is the pawn of the Kremlin, wittingly or not…”

“The Russia angle is most troubling to the IC. Behind closed doors, plenty of American intelligence experts believe that President Trump is the pawn of the Kremlin, wittingly or not, and assess that it’s only a matter of time before unseemly Moscow ties are exposed and the White House enters unsurvivable political crisis,” Schindler writes.

“Rebellion is brewing in Washington. The resignation of the CIA’s spokesman, a career intelligence analyst, is a sign of how fragile IC morale has gotten under the new administration.”

Schindler seems to be referring to former intelligence analyst and National Security Council spokesman Edward Price, a man who has worked in the Central Intelligence Agency for more than a decade under both George W. Bush and Barack Obama, who quit the agency because of Donald Trump. This troubles people who aren’t knee-jerk Trump defenders, because a careerist is not a partisan position. It would be a relief if this were a partisan issue, but instead, it is a deeply threatening issue that has already undermined our democracy and made us a laughing stock around the globe.

“If President Trump keeps upping the ante in his war on the spies, he can expect more damaging leaks to reach the media,” Schindler writes menacingly. “Leaks happen in every administration, and Nixon’s ignominious fall ought to serve as a cautionary tale to any president who thinks he can find the right ‘plumbers’ to fix the leaky faucet.”

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http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/22/trump-rebellion-reported-brewing-intelligence-community.html

[Achilleaze]

1. #PawnOfTheKremlin And the Repukes meekly kiss his ass.

How lame, shameless and unAmerican is that?

[NotThisTime]

6. I'd say it's underway... I too would like to know what mistruth's they have told?

[truebluegreen]

2. "reported to be brewing"?

The IC is leaking like a sieve--with and without disclaimers--and now (with deniability) threatening. One would almost think that the truth is less important than taking Agent Orange down.

[FreepFryer]

3. How's that, exactly? What 'untruths' have been leaked? (n/t)

[truebluegreen]

7. if you look closely the disclaimers are there.

The Steele dossier for example. The IC briefed POTUS and PEOTUS despite being unable to confirm or deny any claims. And then of course it all became public.

Ever ask yourself why?

[FreepFryer]

8. Nope, I've never asked myself anything. I'm uncritical and ill-informed, as you assume. (n/t)

[truebluegreen]

12. Whatever you say.

[FreepFryer]

13. Just going to make a vague and empty attempt to smear the IC as untruthful w/o any examples? (n/t)

[truebluegreen]

16. Oh sure, you're right

The CIA for one never lies. Neither does the NSA.

Jaysus H.

[FreepFryer]

18. Hyperbole, ad nauseam and a complete lack of examples doesn't support your argument (n/t)

[truebluegreen]

21. If you can't be serious

Go play elsewhere.

[FreepFryer]

24. I'm quite serious. Same question: What specific IC disclosures have been untrue? (n/t)

[FreepFryer]

11. I can't help but notice, however, that you didn't answer the question. What untruths, exactly? (n/t)

[truebluegreen]

14. Start with the Steele dossier. I'll wait.

And I didn't use the word "untruth"--you did. I said the truth was apparently not as important as taking out Trump and cited the release of unverified information.

Two things:
1. Trump is an unmitigated disaster for us all, and
2. The intelligence community is an undemocratic, unelected force which may or may not be on "our" side ( cough--Comey--cough).

[FreepFryer]

19. Pedantic insults after being asked for SPECIFIC examples is unhelpful to your argument (n/t)

[kiranerys]

32. Easy - because it's a threat to the credibility of both Trump and the presidency

True or not, verifiable or not. And I'm sure they were interested in knowing how he'd react.

[truebluegreen]

39. I think we agree.

Imo it was a warning shot...which went unheeded.

[leftyladyfrommo]

17. The problem with the leaks is that they are most likely truths.

Otherwise no one would be so upset about the fact they were leaked.

[babylonsister]

10. I imagine there are a lot of truths involved in

taking dt down; he has become his own worst enemy.

I can't imagine anyone taking him down on supposition alone.

[truebluegreen]

15. I think some have their own agenda

but certainly it is true Trump is his own worst enemy.

[LS_Editor]

23. Only a matter of time until Pence makes his move.

[FreepFryer]

20. This. (n/t)

[njhoneybadger]

27. Ok, you hate the IC especially the CIA. We get it

[truebluegreen]

40. Um, no, I don't, necessarily.

I do find it a little odd that a few years ago they were in disrepute on this board for "lying us into a war"...and now they're our besties? Because they don't care for the loose cannon that is Trump?

I think they are useful, up to a point...but they get a lot of things wrong (most famously they didn't see the collapse of the USSR coming--which at the time was their primary mission)(oops), they have a certain mindset (essentially paranoid); they are secretive as part of the job description, a big stock in their trade is misdirection (i.e. lying) and as an unelected body I don't want them setting policy.

That not quite the same as saying "I hate the IC, especially the CIA." Is it.

[BeckyDem]

4. Good read.

[BSdetect]

5. The story that Russia now thinks drumph is an idiot is an obvious attempt to downplay their

involvement.

Sorry don't have the post link.

Edited for link

http://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/2/22/14697718/donald-trump-putin-russia-kremlin-hillary-clinton

[LS_Editor]

22. Has anyone considered Vice President Pence was at least partially behind the leak that canned Flynn?

[Volaris]

25. Go watch the new Olbermann on GQ.

Like an unattentive child, Trump has been asked twice and told once, and I think the hammer is about to get dropped on his head.

[C_U_L8R]

26. Spingtime's for leaking golden showers.

There's gotta be tape.

[gordianot]

29. The tax mess is most likely the catalyst.

There must be one helluva tax return out there waiting to be released.

[kiranerys]

33. Yeah, if it shows any funny business

With the Russian mob or whatever, then he's done for. This whole thing blows up. And if it turns out Pence knew anything, it may sink him too. We'll have President Paul Ryan, god help us.

[JudyM]

38. Puzzling that it hasn't yet been leaked, at least to Schumer.

[gordianot]

28. Rebellions, revolutions and Civil War is always messy.

At least American human casualties will not happen they seem to be Russian so far.

[Sadie5]

30. Get Trump outta there and...

you will have Pence to contend with. Pence knew of the Russian link when he became T's running mate so we won't get much change even if we do away with the idiot man. Pence is a ultra conservative religious fool that will push the racism even farther than the idiot has done. It goes on down the line from Pence to Ryan, McConnell. This is why they always have a smirked grin on their mugs. They know! The only chance we have is to keep fighting back.

[kiranerys]

34. I saw Scarborough interview Paul Ryan about the Russia stuff, and you could just tell....

that he thinks there's a reasonable chance he's going to become the President.

[GoCubsGo]

31. I have no doubt there is a rebellion underway.

The career employees swore to serve the country and the constitution, not any politicians--including the president. If they see the president acting in a way that goes against protecting the security and safety of the country, they will act accordingly. I hope they are also planning to do the same with Trump's co-conspirators, Pence, McConnell and Ryan.

[kiranerys]

35. I honestly don't think that Ryan and McConnell are in Russia's pocket

They're just happy to take advantage of the chaos and incompetence of the Trump White House.

[GoCubsGo]

36. I don't think they are in Russia's pocket, either. But,

I do think they knew about the whole thing all along, and are doing nothing about it. Which makes them complicit in it.

[triron]

41. good point

[July]

37. Instead of POTUS, he's POTK. NT

[Hekate]

42. Kick Rec