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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/23/1637009/-Bannon-Reveals-His-Intention-To-Deconstruct-The-Administrative-State-i-e-Destroy-The-CountryBy Dartagnan at dKos
At CPAC today Stephen Bannon, the Chief Advisor and intellectual heft behind the Twittering infant that sits in the Oval Office, provided a little glimpse of the future he has planned for all of us.
In the clearest explanation for why nearly all of Trumps cabinet choices are known mostly for despising and attacking the very Federal agencies theyve been designated to lead, Bannon explainedin very clear language--that they weren't appointed to lead these agencies, but to destroy them:
Atop Trumps agenda, Bannon said, was the deconstruction of the administrative state meaning a system of taxes, regulations and trade pacts that the president and his advisers believe stymie economic growth and infringe upon ones sovereignty.
If you look at these Cabinet nominees, they were selected for a reason, and that is deconstruction, Bannon said. He posited that Trumps announcement withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership was one of the most pivotal moments in modern American history.
The wholesale elimination of Federal agencies that ensure we receive such things as clean air, clean water, fair labor laws, fair housing standards, anti-discrimination laws, financial regulations, food and drug safety, national education standards and the like, has been a goal of far right thinkers" for decades. The rationale, propagated by corporate and industry-funded think tanks such as the Heritage Foundation, has always been that that the existence of these unelected" agencies represents a mortal threat to American sovereignty and self-government." This is exactly the line Bannon was peddling at CPAC today. It is delusional, right-wing garbage.
The reality is that these extensions of the Executive Branchthe Department of Labor, the Department of Health and Human Services, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Education, for example-- exist to serve the interests of all the American people, performing the painstaking and complex task of regulating the very things that make all Americans lives worth living. They perform this function because history has clearly shown that neither the Congress nor the states are remotely up to the task of doing it. They have neither the time, the expertise, the manpower, or the ability to handle such mammoth responsibilities in a country of 330 million people.
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Freethinker65
(10,017 posts)Either way, you get the same results
PsychoBabble
(837 posts)... Because then when we show the video clips later, the spin-meisters can't get away with their verbal tap-dancing.
It was plain on its face that Trump WAS choosing the LEAST qualified people to RUN these agencies, but the MOST qualified people to DESTROY them.
Now Bannon has just straight up SAID IT IN PUBLIC.
This is one of many videos that should just be put on a continuous playing loop until 2018 ...
sellitman
(11,606 posts)Are you kidding me? This is exactly what they have been planning for years. If you haven't noticed the Senate and the House have a woodie.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)First thing to understand is that these people don't care a bit about what they said in the past, they will be gloating that all the destruction they set up to do has been done "Mission Accomplished", so showing them the video won't do anything to them, these kind of people do not become embarrassed by anything, they have no morals, no principles and they don't care about anyone or anything but themselves.
When you are ready to show the video it will be too late, we may be in huge line waiting for out turn to buy at the supermarket, and sometimes when it is our turn we will find out there is nothing to buy...these claims have to be taken seriously, the democratic party better do something drastic because these people will not stop for anything, they have had this agenda for a long time and they are having a ball.
This is serious...
gopiscrap
(23,758 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)bdamomma
(63,845 posts)Bannon is a sick arrogant ignorant man, I would love to see these two factions of the white nationalists and the conservative party those who were at CPAC yesterday go after each other.
Aren't there factions of these people, white supremacists/nationalists and, neo nazis? I would love to see each of these factions just go after each other. Just thinking out loud.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)NO protections, NO barriers to making money.
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)... he meant WE are the swamp??
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njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Russia's Aleksandr Dugin
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)costs are going to be disappointed. He is set to remove human and civil rights protections, voting rights, lower taxes for the rich which will add to the deficit. He will line his pockets and so will his friends and he is unlikely to have any well paying jobs for them, some will die if he gets away with dismantling ACA. He is the greatest con man to ever sit as president of the U.S. But to your point, he means drain away legal protections, not the people, I feel. He would say so and often. One example was during a debate with Hillary about his taxes. He implied he could contribute to the "swamp" ( politicians ) and get the tax breaks that benefited him and that made him smart. How any voter who is not of the 1% would think he would ever change that to adjust income inequality is a desperate fool.
VOX
(22,976 posts)The bitter children who pull Trump's strings are playing with fire. Make that nukes.
Get these assholes OUT NOW!
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)But people voted for Jill Stein because Hillary is the same.
calimary
(81,238 posts)during that RT dinner. "She", meaning Jill Stein.
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Their water is toxic, the air they breath is full of soot, their landlord hates the Irish, and the doctor they are seeing for a serious ailment looks like something dragged out of the gutter the day after Mardi Gras.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)I bet that dr was more of a supplier of something.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)bdamomma
(63,845 posts)He is a fucking Leninist he wants to bring down the state/country.
I hate these people.
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)Dangerous fks. I hate them too. We need them out right now. People keep saying we will see in the next few years. But that will be too late.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)most closely guarded secrets and security structures is beyond comprehension. Even if he is kicked to the curb, the information he takes with him will make him a threat to our nation for the rest of his miserable life.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)NOT the Executive Branch.
Congress defines them, gives them their mission, and funds them. The End.
But the ignorant who refuse to read the Constitution like the GrimReaper, seem oblivious to their stupidity.
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Section 8.
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;
To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;
To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;
To establish post offices and post roads;
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei
All the stuff listed above, once defined and funded, is only then managed by the President.
Caliman73
(11,736 posts)They are actually shooting themselves in the foot in a way. They are decreasing the power of the Federal Government, but in turn they will increase the power of the States. It will be very painful in some ways because the Federal Government is sort of a clearinghouse for funds and structure, but at the same time, States like New York, California, Massachusetts, possibly Texas, and some others, will stabilize and have much more ability to call the shots. The Red states will become hell holes while more balanced states will emerge more powerful.
The sad thing is that it may mean a more regional form of solidarity and potentially the break up of the country, but they are weakening their own power by destroying those agencies.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)if "interstate commerce" is involved (i.e., the broad term for anything that "crosses state or U.S. international borders" then it is generally handled by the feds (Executive Branch agencies that are created (by law) and funded (via appropriations) by Congress and managed by the President).
So (generically) if someone manufactures something that is only sold in that state, then the state regulates it.
However there are certain exceptions (e.g., if parts for the previously-mentioned manufactured product came across the state line despite the finished product only manufactured and sold in that state) and practices that may impact many states simultaneously, then in those cases, Congress often makes a decision (law) to "federalize" these cases. You saw that with the speed limit and drinking age and things like "public accommodations". The law will then designate which agencies have jurisdiction (in some cases, it may be multiple ones).
The existence and "power" of the Federal government is described and promulgated right there in the Constitution and if GrimReaper continues on his path of stupidity, his decisions will be taken to the Supreme Court to argue what the federal government is SUPPOSED do based on the Constitution, NOT based on some fantasy of recreating a new type of U.S. government that is anti-Constitutional or extra-Constitutional.
At present, they are trying to strip some of the regulations (the "how to go about doing the agency's job" instructions - i.e., the steps that are required to carry out a law that Congress passed and the President signed), but then this is often done by people who have no sense or desire to look up the history behind a regulation. In most cases, the regulation was put there after some catastrophic event or after a multitude of smaller but impactful events that needed federal intervention to resolve.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)It seems like they all want to dismantle the government from within.
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)BBG
(2,537 posts)It's their journey, this dismantling of our systems of governance they have been at for some time. The excelling at failing in operating government so they can strip away malfunctioning systems. Instead of fixing and improving the same systems. Anarchofascism. A political model that eliminates governing systems for the benefit of an autocratic industrial military complex.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)KewlKat
(5,624 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)Sort of like immigrant NYC when the irish gangs came to NY just to continue their old-world death cults.
This is the 1% showing itself and we victims don't even recognize our overlords.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)(film) 1976 -
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Being an "enemy of the state,"
what he's doing is projecting.
Initech
(100,068 posts)This is just the beginning. The republicans will do more damage to America than Isis or Boko Harem ever could dream of.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Where's Walter Sobchak when you need him?
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)calimary
(81,238 posts)I'm watching it now. I fell out of love with Chris Hayes last year. He's doing better now.
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)now??
Initech
(100,068 posts)Beartracks
(12,809 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)In their zeal to "destroy the administrative state" and turn things over to the states, the Trump Freak Show doesn't realize that the individual states have neither the reach nor the resources to administer the complex nation we have become.
Are YOU ready to turn over to the individual states:
-- national weather service
-- air traffic control
-- food safety inspection
-- common contracting law
-- and on and on and on????
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)Bannon and his ilk are not anti-regulation, these people are pro pollution. They believe that dirty water, filthy air, and toxic landfills are good for their wallets and fuck all the rest. Privatized profit at the expense of socialized cost. And many of these indirect costs are extremely long term and intractable, with much of the damage done to our planet permanent. They care not a whim for our children, nor of the generations to come. In short, these assholes are immoral, selfish, harmful, and wickedly self assured. And with the help of our fawning corporate media, plenty of rubes go right along with them. They simply don't care for other people, and think that empathy is a weakness. Or as George Carlin put it: "They don't give a fuck about you and me, they don't give a fuck."
Rex
(65,616 posts)A dangerous moron.
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)are they all of them including Bannon going to be there??? Filthy pieces of shit.
D_Master81
(1,822 posts)i live in deep red Indiana and I know people who are cheering this
orangecrush
(19,546 posts)Let them rot in hell.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)Good times.
(I never thought I'd be reminiscing about an era when the government protected its citizens. When my kids are grown, I wonder if they'll think I have early onset dementia when I talk about having to put an additive in my cute little MG when I fueled up because lead was banned from gasoline. Or how paint used to make people stupid. But how we were also proud that our government thought our lives were worth it.)
dalton99a
(81,475 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)It's really vandalism. Destruction. Rebellion. Treason.