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napi21

(45,806 posts)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 10:49 PM Feb 2017

On Rachel just now: General McMaster had a meeting with his senior staff today. One of the things

was to "STOP USING THE TERM RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS". We all heard that this General runs a tight ship and doesn't hold back when he disagrees with his superiors.

I wonder how the Con's going to respond to this new guy who disagrees with him?

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On Rachel just now: General McMaster had a meeting with his senior staff today. One of the things (Original Post) napi21 Feb 2017 OP
I feel a second... Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #1
But HR will fight it GP6971 Feb 2017 #9
But, since he is still active... Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #12
True GP6971 Feb 2017 #19
wow looks like pics of...... samnsara Feb 2017 #2
Hope they're not too squeezable. calimary Feb 2017 #37
Wow just wow Lotusflower70 Feb 2017 #3
I doubt he's gonna last, surprised he took the job anyway. JHan Feb 2017 #4
Don't know if it is true truebluegreen Feb 2017 #13
I would bet that if 45 pushed him around, he'd Ilsa Feb 2017 #17
good point, he also probably see it as his duty.... JHan Feb 2017 #20
that was my hope when I first saw his name floated fishwax Feb 2017 #29
I thought the same. Hope he sees it as his patriotic duty. We desperately need some sanity. Amaryllis Feb 2017 #32
He could not refuse knowing the incompetence of the current NSA staff denbot Feb 2017 #25
Apparently he has integrity and gumption truebluegreen Feb 2017 #34
That is what I read. He couldnt refuse. Alice11111 Feb 2017 #38
He had no choice GP6971 Feb 2017 #21
Kind of a weird hill for the General to die on. bluedigger Feb 2017 #5
Not weird at all. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #15
I doubt the Muslim world will heed his differences with the rest of the admin. bluedigger Feb 2017 #26
Do they? Nobody else seems to. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #33
I never got it. We get them to fight our wars, then insult them. Alice11111 Feb 2017 #39
I agree truebluegreen Feb 2017 #42
LOL Alice11111 Feb 2017 #44
He can't get "fired" as he is actively serving in military- he had to accept NSC position when asked wishstar Feb 2017 #6
He did not "have to" take the job. Stinky The Clown Feb 2017 #14
My understanding is that he can't quit, but he can be fired. Alice11111 Feb 2017 #40
McMasters is ten times smarter than T. panader0 Feb 2017 #7
So, he's able to read documents that are longer than one page? MrPurple Feb 2017 #8
No offense, panader0 ... Trumpdumper Feb 2017 #10
you beat me to it. mnmoderatedem Feb 2017 #16
McMasters could be the KGOP Canary Test for Benedict Donald; if McMaster goes then they know shits.. uponit7771 Feb 2017 #11
I was wondering how this gentleman was going to work out okieinpain Feb 2017 #18
Please don't trust zentrum Feb 2017 #22
Exactly right. Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld klook Feb 2017 #27
Yes, that's his lineage. zentrum Feb 2017 #30
Even George Bush knew... nycbos Feb 2017 #23
I thought just saying those words would stop terrorism n/t hibbing Feb 2017 #24
It does. It's like shouting Beetlejuice! SunSeeker Feb 2017 #31
Well, every red blooded American trump voter knows mountain grammy Feb 2017 #28
Why don't they start referring to ISIS as the Daesh? Something ISIS hates. LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #35
Malcolm Nance had nothing but MontanaMama Feb 2017 #36
Gen. McMaster ain't taking no shit from nobody. nt oasis Feb 2017 #41
Big Desk Bannon isn't going to like that... JHB Feb 2017 #43

GP6971

(31,212 posts)
9. But HR will fight it
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:06 PM
Feb 2017

and will probably win, at least in the public's opinion.

Being still on active duty, you can just imagine what info is passed to the Pentagon.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
12. But, since he is still active...
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:10 PM
Feb 2017

There is only so much he can actually do, but, hopefully he will be a voice of reason. That said, we all know how well Trump and his goons treat those with dissenting opinions -- especially those that are vocal about it.

GP6971

(31,212 posts)
19. True
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:21 PM
Feb 2017

but the military will have advanced warning of any stupid shit Dolt45 is considering. The problem will be if Bannon isolates him.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
20. good point, he also probably see it as his duty....
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:22 PM
Feb 2017

I was honestly surprised he took up the job. I read Dereliction of Duty - ---

Actually coming to think of it, he probably thinks this is a patriotic act, to use his influence to prevent a repeat of history described in his book.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
29. that was my hope when I first saw his name floated
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:58 PM
Feb 2017

it seemed like such an odd choice given the sort of lackey 45 usually goes for.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
25. He could not refuse knowing the incompetence of the current NSA staff
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:34 PM
Feb 2017

If anyone is position to prevent an apocalyptic fuck up, it's the NSA Director. There are somethings you just can't just tisk tisk, and walk past.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
34. Apparently he has integrity and gumption
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:27 AM
Feb 2017

Because at least a few others walked past. Otoh maybe he got the right to pick his staff, and even boot Bannon. I know that was the sticking point for a previous nominee.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
38. That is what I read. He couldnt refuse.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 02:18 AM
Feb 2017

I think that is one reason they got him. It had bevome such an embarrassment that no one woul take it.
I bet 1/2 of his appointments are feeling regret by now for accepting.

GP6971

(31,212 posts)
21. He had no choice
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:23 PM
Feb 2017

he's still active duty and must obey the CIC. Thankfully, he's not retiring.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
15. Not weird at all.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:15 PM
Feb 2017

Smart enough to know that he doesn't want even the perception of a "holy war" with 1.5+ billion Muslims. In that he agrees with Obama and disagrees with every Republican.

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
26. I doubt the Muslim world will heed his differences with the rest of the admin.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:35 PM
Feb 2017

They know who's calling the shots.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
39. I never got it. We get them to fight our wars, then insult them.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 02:34 AM
Feb 2017

I can't believe how stupid these people are. Then, I don't understand why we keep trying to start a war with Mexico either.
DT did insult his way into the Presidency (Jebs line), and now he's trying to to insult his way into a war.
Why he thinks that just because he's a big fat orange bully, he can keep kicking people in the teeth, and they won't fight back, I dont know. I'm glad Mexuco told him , you don't unilaterally make the rules.

I knew this guy was going to be good at NSC, and he's putting it back the way it was, putting general back. Notice how many things they are now deferring to Obama on, though they will never admit it.
This must really piss Bannon off. I wonder if he will kick Bannon and Kushner off too.

Seems the military guys , sans Flynn, but they thought he was an idiot too, may turn out to be the best in DTs cabinet. Of course, he knows "more than all of the generals." We will see how much this blob knows compared to these very experienced, smart guys now.



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truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
42. I agree
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 08:59 AM
Feb 2017

although it is pretty scary to be relying on the military to defend your democracy from internal enemies. That doesn't usually end well.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
6. He can't get "fired" as he is actively serving in military- he had to accept NSC position when asked
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:00 PM
Feb 2017

Interesting situation since unlike Flynn, McMaster is not retired and was put in position of having to agree to take this post when asked

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
40. My understanding is that he can't quit, but he can be fired.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 02:43 AM
Feb 2017

What an awful position to be in. Seems his attitude is, I'm going to run it right, and if they don't like it, they can fire me. Maybe he sees it as a win/win.

Im sure he is getting advice from some of his mentors too. Sounds like he has a code of honor. What's that, these days?

Trumpdumper

(171 posts)
10. No offense, panader0 ...
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:07 PM
Feb 2017

... but my appendix is 10x smarter than Trump. A scholar like McMaster is a googleplex brighter than the buffoon.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
11. McMasters could be the KGOP Canary Test for Benedict Donald; if McMaster goes then they know shits..
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:08 PM
Feb 2017

... really bad... cause they have to be beat on the head with a bat.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
22. Please don't trust
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:24 PM
Feb 2017

...the competency of a neocon. No doubt they are competent, but the goals are usually things like Empire and neoliberalism brought to you at the end of a gun.

nycbos

(6,038 posts)
23. Even George Bush knew...
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:27 PM
Feb 2017

... that any operation against the terrorist element would fail if it was perceived that it was a "war on Islam." I remember he said in a State of the Union Address "They are a disgrace to Allah"

mountain grammy

(26,655 posts)
28. Well, every red blooded American trump voter knows
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:52 PM
Feb 2017

these are the words that will end ISIS, or something stupid like that.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
35. Why don't they start referring to ISIS as the Daesh? Something ISIS hates.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:50 AM
Feb 2017
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/what-daesh-mean-isis-threatens-6841468

Essentially, it's another word for ISIS - but apparently one that ISIS militants do not favour.

Why? Because it is similar to the Arabic words 'Daes', 'one who crushes something underfoot' and 'Dahes', translated as 'one who sows discord'.


It would be one thing at least we could all agree on.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
36. Malcolm Nance had nothing but
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:52 AM
Feb 2017

Positive things to say about General McMaster tonight on Make It Plain. According to Nance, McMaster was one of the few bright spots in 45's cabinet in terms of personal integrity. Hope he is correct in that assessment.

JHB

(37,162 posts)
43. Big Desk Bannon isn't going to like that...
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:05 AM
Feb 2017

...but it's probably too soon for another ouster. But whenever he thinks he can get away with it...

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