The president is an idiot

[PJMcK]

This was Donald Trump's statement yesterday regarding health insurance in the United States:

"Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated..."

Really?! "Nobody" had any idea how complicated the health insurance problem was in the United States? After eight years of Republican obstructionism this is what this "really smart" man has to say? After 60 votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act, "nobody knew that health care could be so complicated."

Republicans are stupid and Donald Trump is the perfect leader for their dysfunctional un-American party.

[Cha]

1. Yes, he is and he doesn't mind advertising it.

[Bettie]

3. The really sad thing is that it is

the fact that he is an idiot that makes his base love him so much.

Guess you don't have to work hard or study or even have a basic understanding of...well, anything to become president. You just have to be loud, proudly ignorant, and filled with hate.

[Norbert9]

24. Yes Bettie. THIS!

He's not the only idiot out there.

But how in the name of all that is innocent and good did this bumbling idiot get elected is beyond me.

[Scarsdale]

27. Help

Lots of help from Putin and President Bannon.

[volstork]

26. They DO like 'em stupid

In the repub party. Sarah Palin showed us that quite well.

[reflection]

37. One of my friends, who has been insufferable since the election

tells me "he speaks like the common man and that's why we like him." I told him unfortunately, he thinks like the common man also, and that will be our undoing. He is truly an idiot about most things, and why would you elect someone to lead you who is either your equal or your lesser? Shouldn't a leader be ahead of the curve, and helping to pull us along, instead of the lowest common denominator swirling us all down the drain via his apathy and mendacity?

I got called a snowflake in response. Tried to point out with factual evidence that he worships the biggest snowflake of all, and of course, it's just not hitting with him. I've said it before, you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

[dhill926]

40. "he speaks like the common man and that's why we like him."

oh for chrissakes. they can't tell it's all a ruse. he doesn't give half a shit about any of them....idiots...

[whathehell]

44. Even his response is off the mark...

a "snowflake"? Is that what they call smart, competent people now? What fools.

[reflection]

46. That's what they call anyone who takes umbrage with Cheeotlini.

No criticism is valid. The complainer must be a snowflake. Fake news, snowflake, whatever the word of the day is, they are ready to parrot it, whether it makes sense contextually or not. Pathetic.

[whathehell]

48. Right...

Like having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, I guess.

[LiberalLovinLug]

50. He does raise a good point though

Democrats do much better with Red States when they have someone who can use their simple dialect. Bill Clinton was a master at it. Of course Dubya thrived on it.

Obama was too 'uppity' sounding for them, which of course was not a fault on his part. For as much as I admired his slow thoughtful responses that dissected the opposition so efficiently to those who appreciated it, there were those that take that as talking down to them (especially from an AA) Hillary just wasn't a great communicator period and came off as that teachers pet who always got A's and sat in the front row. Bernie did better because he stuck to a limited number of talking points that he hammered home. But he still wasn't high on the "ah shucks" register.

I think we need.....even if it is all put on for the camera and crowd......someone who can use that simpleton language and inflection, and be able to explain how their problems are generated from Republicans, and how Democrats will help them. I don't care if you want to call it crass or hypocritical or underhanded. If that is the only way to reach these folks then so be it.

Too often Democratic leadership ASSUME that its just the message they need to get out, and the way they get it out does not matter because the message is the obvious correct one. And that people will somehow just get smarter and realize that eventually.

The medium is the message.

[reflection]

52. That's not crass, hypocritical or underhanded at all.

That's just reality. I too appreciated Obama's long thoughtful pauses even though they drove many of my liberal friends crazy. To me, it showed he was really thinking about the question, and also thinking about how best to answer it. But to deny that it turns a lot of people off is counterproductive.

However, I don't think we need someone who speaks like Donald Trump, whose total lack of filter and vocabulary make him sound like a complete imbecile. Something in between would serve us well. Clinton had the most "Everyman" quality about him. He knew his audience and could tailor a speech to them that was perfect. He could even weave in wonky figures without coming across as robotic and stilted.

[LiberalLovinLug]

56. I agree..to a point

I am not talking about WHAT Trump says but that he doesn't tip toe around issues he feels strongly about. As we shouldn't . That's one thing that was appealing about Bernie. He was unapologetic about his insistence on things like....why can't the richest nation on earth afford healthcare for all like every other western democracy? Simple but deadly. There is no hand-wringing or pause about a) being labeled a socialist, or b) upsetting a few big insurance company donors. The DNC should be looking at how...even though he was pigeonholed as a socialist dreamer by mostly the right, but also some on the left (in DU as well) he still retained the highest approval rating of every contestant both R and D.

The point being that the difference is that we have truth on our side. Its ok to speak off the cuff if one is based in reality and has the real facts behind them.

[louis-t]

51. My question has always been:

Why do Republicans always gravitate toward the dumbest person in the room?

[RainCaster]

70. My answer will continue to be:

Because that person will vote for them and expect nothing in return. S/he will never expect campaign promises to be kept, and you could bugger little farm animals all day long and they will still love you.

[Phentex]

35. That's right. They love him for it because they can relate...

why they are against intelligence is really something to behold.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

66. As the character Will McAvoy said in the underrated show, Newsroom, when asked to tell why the US

is the greatest country in the world, after saying it isn't:

It sure used to be… We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reason. We passed laws, struck down laws, for moral reason. We waged wars on poverty, not on poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbors, we put our money where our mouths were and we never beat our chest. We built great, big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases and we cultivated the world’s greatest artists AND the world’s greatest economy. We reached for the stars, acted like men. We aspired to intelligence, we didn’t belittle it. It didn’t make us feel inferior.

[Different Drummer]

69. ...

the fact that he is an idiot that makes his base love him so much.

Nailed it!

[Lanius]

73. TBH if Trump hadn't been born rich he'd have amounted to nothing.

[HAB911]

5. I think he is proud of it

[Cha]

6. Right, 'cause it's so much easier to flaunt stupidity than

try to learn anything.

[Docreed2003]

8. Well, he is the poster child for "no political experience", amongst other things...

[Orrex]

10. It's one of his main selling points to his idiot voter base

But, of course, we're not supposed to say that they're fucking stupid because that would be mean.

[Cha]

16. It's mean that they're so fucking stupid.

brainwashed outta their minds for years.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. What Orrex Said!

There was another thread here about some guy who interviewed a bunch of trumpets, and there were things like "stop calling me a racist" and "stop calling us stupid". The gist was "no we're not". My thought is that by observation, i think they're wrong.

They're racist and/or stupid.

[DetlefK]

2. Donald Trump has two modes of solving a problem:

1. Cut your losses and walk away.

2. Bully until the other side gives up.

Except that he cannot walk away from a healthcare-reform and except that he cannot bully because it's a systemic problem.

[FSogol]

4. I'll rec any thread proclaiming Trump's idiocy.

[treestar]

14. ditto

[RKP5637]

7. Donald J.(Jerk) Trump, "King of Idiocracy" (for his herd). Phew, he constantly spews

such extremely stupid crap, like really really stupid.

[dae]

9. I found it very profound...

for Trump. Didn't think he could admit anything was complicated, difficult, etc.

[bucolic_frolic]

11. Making America Rotten Again

one stupid mistake at a time

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Correction: The MINORITY President is an idiot. . . . nt

[CanonRay]

13. Yes.

[SledDriver]

15. Yes

And the people that voted for him and continue to support him are fucking stupid...

fucking.stupid.

and they're probably proud of it...

[yuiyoshida]

17. BAKA BAKA BAKA ばか ばか ばか ばか ばか ばか ばか ばか

[Progressive dog]

18. Repealing the Affordable Care Act

is part of the Republican job creation plan. Every time another employee dies, another job becomes available. It will also boost business at cemeteries, funeral homes, crematoriums, and headstone companies. This is the perfect jobs plan for psychopaths, who get to eliminate opponents at the same time.
Trump is still working on how to sell his plan. That's the complication.

[3catwoman3]

34. Aha!

Now I understand. I knew there had to be an explanation that I was missing .

(to them, not to you)

[world wide wally]

19. If he needed one sentence alone to prove he is mentally unfit for the job,

That would pretty much cover it.

[bullwinkle428]

20. "SEQUESTURE!!! SEQUESTURE!!!"

...had me like a mofo!

[Motown_Johnny]

22. The person in charge of Health Care Reform back in 1993 might have had some idea....

...maybe.




I really do take issue with your "eight years of Republican obstructionism" statement. They have been using the same tactics and empty promises for 25 years. Not just eight.

[PJMcK]

59. I just meant recent history

You are correct about Republicans, Motown_Johnny. They always block anything sensible. I was referring to President Obama's terms, of course.

[Motley13]

23. Anything over 140 characters has him stumped

[Scarsdale]

25. Smart?

No, he claimed he was "like, really smart" He is "like, really stupid" too.

[chelsea0011]

28. The ACA is a stunningly complicated bill and only a very competent administration

could implement this bill with very few complications. But the Dems have been working on health care for decades. They were well ahead of the game and were able to come up with a bill. The republicans have never given a rat's ass about heath care and could never come up with any replacement bill. They have no idea. The minor ideas that they are floating around are hilarious in their simplistic execution. It all amounts to no affordable health care at all for most Americans.

[Phentex]

36. And many people here have said

hey, if he comes up with something that's truly better, we will support it. But I don't think anyone here thinks it's not complicated. He has to be one of the few people in the world who didn't realize this. Remember, for simple minded people everything seems simple. (Another example for him is the Middle East. He has big, simple ideas that obviously no one before him has ever thought of! )

[neeksgeek]

29. And he's proud of it!

[DesertRat]

30. Nobody knew...

Link to tweet

[HopeAgain]

32. The best reply to this tweet

"it's pretty darn bleak when the presidency is like watching Jersey Shore, feeling lucky ur not them."

[IntraPolitico]

33. He bit off more than he can chew

I honestly think that he didn't realize how complicated this whole presidency thing is! Watch. He's gonna be impeached this year or he'll step down.

[PJMcK]

60. I hope you're right about impeachment (n/t)

[jimjc]

38. Stupid people

don't want trump to be included in their group,, he brings them down further GETTING CLOSE TO IDIOTS.

OH BY THE WAY, THE STUPID IDIOT PEOPLE IN AMERICA ARE POPULATED BY REBOOBLICONS, WELL NOT ALL JUST ABOUT 99.9%

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

39. I thought he was really smart, I mean like, "I'm smarter than everybody."

Surely a simple problem like health care shouldn't stump such a brilliant mind.

[ginnyinWI]

41. He's smart at selling, but not at governing.

It's like asking your car salesman to be your auto mechanic!

[lunatica]

55. He hasn't sold me on a damn thing

But he has convinced me he's a "sad" waste of skin.

[Mr. Ected]

42. I think the corner the GOP has painted itself into has complicated matters

Obstructionism for obstructionism's sake for 8 years was easy. No is a two-letter word; repeating it endlessly couldn't be more simple.

Now that the Republicans actually have to act on their promises to their constituents, it's gotten a lot harder.

Suck it, GOP. You created this monster. You own this monster.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

43. And that's not even the worst part

It's that he doesn't care. If media reports are accurate, Ryan, McConnell are planning to dive full-steam into repealing ACA in a way that steamrolls the opposition and push it into Trump's lap for him to gleefully sign and then maybe replacing it with an inadequate junk bill that Trump will gladly sign as well if the Republicans in Congress tell him too. And his lack of comprehension at the (somewhat unnecessary) complexity of the health care system won't matter in the end as long as he makes Republicans in Congress and his hateful supporters happy.

[FailureToCommunicate]

45. "Nobody knows health care better than me"

[Martin Eden]

49. 62 million voters closely identify with him. n/t

[lunatica]

53. He was telling his base that it's complicated

Not admitting he knows fucking nothing.

[jimlup]

54. We need to vacate the Trump Presidency

ASAP...

I don't know. As one of my students said yesterday. "It feels apocalyptic."

Yes, it fucking does! The sooner we can get him out of office the sooner our nation and its people can begin to heal.

[tclambert]

57. But Donald is "like a smart person!"

in the same way a mouse is like a tiger.

[bullsnarfle]

58. Saying that Trump is an idiot

is like saying "water is wet".

[44fan4life]

61. Totally agree!

The stupidity never ends, does it?

[gopiscrap]

62. welcome to DU

[gopiscrap]

65. welcome to DU

[etherealtruth]

64. He truly is not an intelligent person

He is not an evil genius, he is simply a malevolent buffoon

[PJMcK]

68. But Steve Bannon is the director behind the curtain (n/t)

[ProudProgressiveNow]

67. K&R nt

[calimary]

71. You do realize how amazing that statement was?

"Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated..."

"Nobody," 'eh? Well, EVERYBODY ELSE did. Even your little GOP pals who are facing that in greater and harsher detail by the day.

"Nobody"? Except YOU?

Well, finally, you seem to be declaring yourself a "nobody" then. Wow. At last we agree on something!

[the_sly_pig]

72. Un-American I don't think is accurate...

Apparently the Drumpflodytes are all American. I think anti-constitution, anti-clean air and water, anti-education and anti-health care are descriptors that are more accurate and more simple.

Just a thought....

tsp