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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:31 AM Mar 2017

The "Diplomat" is also a "Spy - Recruiter." Trump's got some trouble in his cabinet...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/01/politics/jeff-sessions-russian-ambassador-meetings/


Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, is considered by US intelligence to be one of Russia's top spies and spy-recruiters in Washington, according to current and former senior US government officials.
Sessions met with Kislyak twice, in July on the sidelines of the Republican convention, and in September in his office when Sessions was a member of the Senate Armed Services committee. Sessions was an early Trump backer and regular surrogate for him as a candidate.


Confirmation video and discussion of Sessions role at link, too--it's instructive.
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The "Diplomat" is also a "Spy - Recruiter." Trump's got some trouble in his cabinet... (Original Post) MADem Mar 2017 OP
This whole administration is on the cusp of collapse...its unbelievable sunonmars Mar 2017 #1
Pelosi and Warren have called for his resignation. MADem Mar 2017 #5
Oh my. Good find! Maru Kitteh Mar 2017 #2
I bet the GOP wishes they never heard of Trump,this is like getting gold and finding lead underneath sunonmars Mar 2017 #3
perfect metaphor for trump Maru Kitteh Mar 2017 #4
Well, I might have used BlueMTexpat Mar 2017 #9
Or just a golden shower. kysrsoze Mar 2017 #29
Kick Hekate Mar 2017 #6
The NYT is also leading with the "OBAMA PRESERVED THE TRAITOROUS DEALINGS" line...! MADem Mar 2017 #7
Interesting that transcripts are starting to leak now DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #14
So - the AG of the US BlueMTexpat Mar 2017 #8
Alabama State Bar Seedersandleechers Mar 2017 #10
Excellent idea! If he's disbarred he has to either become a member of another state bar or resign. JudyM Mar 2017 #22
Trump must be seething today, cant wait for the Tweets today or have they taken his phone. sunonmars Mar 2017 #11
Nothing so far. #GameOfPhones JHB Mar 2017 #16
Sessions must be on the shitlist, dead to him list..... sunonmars Mar 2017 #17
Even before today my suspicions were up about so many of his cabinet. Treason is NOT joet67 Mar 2017 #12
A lot of people thought our relationship with Germany was just dandy MADem Mar 2017 #21
Met with him in Session's office no less! progressoid Mar 2017 #13
Good people do not meet with safeinOhio Mar 2017 #15
Compromised. Dorian Gray Mar 2017 #18
I think Putin thought he'd hit the trifecta with Trump. MADem Mar 2017 #27
Thanks, MADem. brer cat Mar 2017 #19
Kick Hekate Mar 2017 #20
Are we going to end up with Orrin Hatch as President? C Moon Mar 2017 #23
Kickety Hekate Mar 2017 #24
One of the basic functions of our embassies is collecting intelligence. Nitram Mar 2017 #25
republicans have gone over to the Dark Side of the Evil Empire Achilleaze Mar 2017 #26
Saint Ronnie of Raygun started the dumpster fire that brought us Trump. MADem Mar 2017 #28

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
1. This whole administration is on the cusp of collapse...its unbelievable
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:41 AM
Mar 2017

and sooner or later there is no getting away with the fact that Trump and his people cannot be trusted and the people is starting to see this with eyes wide open.

The republican congress are going to have to take the blinkers off soon less we are going to have some sort of dare I say it....removal and intervention.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. Pelosi and Warren have called for his resignation.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:11 AM
Mar 2017

Warren (who "persisted" if you recall with the Coretta Scott King letter re: Sessions, and was "warned" and "punished&quot must be really feeling the rather delicious schadenfreude!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. The NYT is also leading with the "OBAMA PRESERVED THE TRAITOROUS DEALINGS" line...!
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:30 AM
Mar 2017

It's getting very interesting:


The New York Times, citing four current and former officials, reported last month that the American authorities had obtained information of repeated contacts between Mr. Trump’s associates and senior Russian intelligence officials. The White House has dismissed the story as false.

Since the Feb. 14 article appeared, more than a half-dozen officials have confirmed contacts of various kinds between Russians and Trump associates. The label “intelligence official” is not always cleanly applied in Russia, where ex-spies, oligarchs and government officials often report back to the intelligence services and elsewhere in the Kremlin.
.....
The concerns about the contacts were cemented by a series of phone calls between Mr. Kislyak and Michael T. Flynn, who had been poised to become Mr. Trump’s national security adviser. The calls began on Dec. 29, shortly after Mr. Kislyak was summoned to the State Department and informed that, in retaliation for Russian election meddling, the United States was expelling 35 suspected Russian intelligence operatives and imposing other sanctions. Mr. Kislyak was irate and threatened a forceful Russia response, according to people familiar with the exchange.

But a day later, Mr. Putin said his government would not retaliate, prompting a Twitter post from Mr. Trump praising the Russian president — and puzzling Obama White House officials.

On Jan. 2, administration officials learned that Mr. Kislyak — after leaving the State Department meeting — called Mr. Flynn, and that the two talked multiple times in the 36 hours that followed. American intelligence agencies routinely wiretap the phones of Russian diplomats, and transcripts of the calls showed that Mr. Flynn urged the Russians not to respond, saying relations would improve once Mr. Trump was in office, according to multiple current and former officials.

Beyond leaving a trail for investigators, the Obama administration also wanted to help European allies combat a threat that had caught the United States off guard. American intelligence agencies made it clear in the declassified version of the intelligence assessment released in January that they believed Russia intended to use its attacks on the United States as a template for more meddling. “We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned,” the report said, “to future influence efforts worldwide, including against U.S. allies.”



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html?ribbon-ad-idx=3&src=trending&module=Ribbon&version=context®ion=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Trending&pgtype=article









DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
14. Interesting that transcripts are starting to leak now
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 06:41 AM
Mar 2017

IIRC, the NYT story is the first to cite actual transcripts of the calls to/from Kislyak. This is the first documented instance of what Flynn and Kislyak actually talked about. I'm sure there's a transcript of what Sessions and Kislyak talked about, too.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
8. So - the AG of the US
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 05:06 AM
Mar 2017

has no problem with perjury so long as it is he who is committing it?

Excellent timing!

JudyM

(29,246 posts)
22. Excellent idea! If he's disbarred he has to either become a member of another state bar or resign.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:34 PM
Mar 2017

You may want to consider starting a new thread for this, it could work.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
17. Sessions must be on the shitlist, dead to him list.....
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 06:54 AM
Mar 2017

Trump will screw over anyone who is not useful to him anymore.

He'd pull the plug on his own children if he thought it would do him some good.

joet67

(624 posts)
12. Even before today my suspicions were up about so many of his cabinet. Treason is NOT
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 05:43 AM
Mar 2017

an inappropriate charge, if my suspicions are true. I realize there just won't be the political will to call it what it is, and sadly, 20-some percent of our own country is either outright siding with the Russians or else doesn't see a problem here (as reported widely on MSNBC tonight).

Personally, I have no problem calling it what it is, and I would have no problem filing the charges (were I in a position to do so). Political ramifications be damned.

I always said if I ever ran for office it would be for one term at a time, so that I could be free to speak my mind without the interference of having to either raise funds for the party, or the next election.

This is- to borrow Donnybrook's favorite word- sad.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. A lot of people thought our relationship with Germany was just dandy
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:07 PM
Mar 2017

before WWII too. America Firsters, American Nazi Party....and mainstream types as well...not nutters.

We're a bit (not much) wiser now.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
18. Compromised.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 07:58 AM
Mar 2017

I don't know that Putin wanted Trump to win because he would be better for him.

He may have just supported his win because he knew he could wreak havoc with the bumbling administration of idiots who don't know that they will be caught talking to Russians and lying about it.

What fuckwits.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. I think Putin thought he'd hit the trifecta with Trump.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:49 AM
Mar 2017

He believed he could wreak havoc, that he could control Trump, and he could get a bunch of Russo-friendly cretins in the highest corridors of power.

To his dismay, he's only been really successful with one of three--that havoc was wreaked. He absolutely can't control Trump, and his Russo-friendly cretins are either getting knocked back or looked upon with a jaundiced eye.

Still, he keeps trying, though....


brer cat

(24,565 posts)
19. Thanks, MADem.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:58 AM
Mar 2017

These stories move so fast it is hard to keep up. I hadn't seen this side of Kislyak reported before.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
25. One of the basic functions of our embassies is collecting intelligence.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:31 AM
Mar 2017

The CIA run the "Political Section" in every embassy.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
26. republicans have gone over to the Dark Side of the Evil Empire
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:39 AM
Mar 2017

the shade of Ronald Reagan is retching in the grave as he contemplates how latter day republicans have sold out America to the very same freakin Evil Empire he warned them about.

I held a seance over my morning cup of coffee. When I studied the coffee grounds smushed in the bottom of my cup, they revealed to me that the Eternal Shade of R. R. is squirming in agony at the betrayal of America the GOP, and that he rises to CURSE them for their infernal TREASON in selling out the Evil Freakin Empire.


MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. Saint Ronnie of Raygun started the dumpster fire that brought us Trump.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:54 AM
Mar 2017

He capitalized on Nixon's Southern Strategy with "welfare queens" and rallies at KKK strongholds, too. Trump took a big chunk of his playbook from Reagan--the son of a biscuit never had an original idea in his campaign; it's all Nixon/Reagan/Hitler. What a mash-up....

Republicans are racist sexists who never met a fetus they didn't like, but wouldn't give a day-old baby left on a doorstep a bottle of formula. They're happy, though, to lock that baby up in a for-profit prison the minute it turns 18 (16 if they're dusky).

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