Boom: This is worse than Watergate:

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

Special Prosecutor anyone?

[ffr]

1. Exactly my point. Republicans better get on this or they will be labeled TRAITORS too!

What's it going to be McConnell & Ryan??? Are you complicit with enemies of the United States of America, the country you've sworn to defend???

You either act now or you are TRAITORS TOO!

[Bettie]

2. Currently, they control the narrative

so, they won't do anything.

[FreepFryer]

5. LOL. If this is their idea of "controlling the narrative," they're high. (n/t)

[Bettie]

25. Perhaps I misspoke

they control the legal/governmental response to the narrative, so it doesn't matter what is said or found, they have the power to bury it or ensure that no action is taken on it.

This makes any findings moot, becasue, aside from one or two of his appointees resigning, there is no real investigation.

It is still their game. Nothing will happen any time soon.

[FreepFryer]

32. I patently disagree with every single naysaying assertion you just made. Discourage Negativism (n/t)

[Bettie]

41. I'm not saying what they are doing is right

simply that our side lacks the legal mechanism to make anything happen until at least one house of congress is flipped.

No Republican will ever step out of line beyond making a comment or two in order to give the appearance of caring.

So, we need to flip either the house or senate (or both). Until then, nothing will be done about any of this.

[FreepFryer]

42. "No republican will ever step out of line beyond" - patently false. (n/t)

[FreepFryer]

43. "Our side lacks the legal mechanism" -- patently false (n/t)

[FreepFryer]

44. "Until we flip the House or Senate in 2018 nothing will be done" -- patently false (n/t)

[FreepFryer]

45. Why are you repeating a "Democrats are powerless" frame? It's erosive. (n/t)

[SoCalMusicLover]

51. Actions Speak LOUDER Than Words

Let's see what happens then. I'm 50, and in the last 30 years, I've seen this shit before. Watched as Dickhead Rover outed a CIA operative, and got away with it 100%.

Right now, I'm on the side saying nothing will come of this, because the repubs control all branches, and you can count the # of repubs willing to break from the party, on 1 Finger.....at most.

[FreepFryer]

52. None of us have ever seen anything like this before. This. Is. Not. Normal. (n/t)

[littlemissmartypants]

55. Bingo.

Mutant politics from another planet. Hopefully, some of these clowns wish they could phone home, but when they do, the numbers are disconnected.

Me?

I'm searching humble pie recipes for them,

while they play patty cake.

[FreepFryer]

56. Your expert use of symbol, metaphor and allegory approaches Darmok levels (n/t)!

[littlemissmartypants]

57. FreepFryer. ♡

Thank you.

[ProfessorGAC]

73. Great Reference Freep!

I love that episode

[King_Klonopin]

74. At this time, I see the GOP is between a rock and a hard place...

The choices are: How much do you want to lose -- a lot or a little.

If they obstruct, they risk losing control of both houses of congress
and looking like partisan traitors (which they are!)

If they get on board with an independent investigation, some of them
will have to resign in disgrace, but they may be able to hold on to
majorities by the skin of their teeth.

Pick your poison, scumbags.

[Bettie]

61. This is what I am saying

right now, I do not believe that anything will happen to stop any of this. I'm also 50 and yeah, modern day Republicans are an entirely different breed than they were in the days of Nixon.

Party versus Country, party will win, every time with those guys. Every last one of them.

[SoCalMusicLover]

63. But We're Not Loyal Democrats

Just because we're realistic, and can see the forest through the trees.

At this point, it's far easier to let the people posting here have their weekly celebration of the thing that will start to bring down this administration.

By the time the dust has cleared on this, and Sessions is still entrenched in his position, I'm certain that the optimists here will have moved on to the next "big thing" spelling doom for the drumpf administration.

Rinse & Repeat.

[Bettie]

64. If one of these things brings them all down

then I'll admit I was wrong, but I can't keep getting excited for things I know are not likely to come to pass.

WE need to be the driving force, by putting Democrats in charge of at least one chamber, for any movement on these treasonous a-holes.

As long as they hold the reins, we can resist, but we don't have the power to make it happen.

I want these guys gone as much as anyone else, but it isn't going to be right now.

[littlemissmartypants]

53. Thank you. eom

[ffr]

9. No, this has gone too far. Drip. Drip. Drip.

They control the agenda, but the narrative is out of control. Sessions, Flynn, Ross, Manafort, tRump himself!!! Holy smokes!

tRump has been saying all along this is fake news, that the stories are all fake. Oh my freaking science! We're under attack and anyone complicit with them should be subject to the penalties of the same crime.

Hanging is not off the table.

[blm]

39. Then they are COMPLICIT. Their COVERUP will become a crime, too. Dems are READY for this showdown

and we will prevail.

[vlyons]

6. Silence implies consent

If they don't get on record demanding Sessions resign and a fair investigation, they are aiding and abetting treason - at the very least.

[Marthe48]

23. As soon as indications showed trump-putin links

and our elected officials refused to act, they became traitors. No patriot can afford to give a Russian sympathizer the benefit of the doubt.
Anyone who did does is not fulfilling their sworn oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America.

[2naSalit]

26. An independent investigation will expose them all.

Then an independent prosecutor will be needed. And the SCOTUS may be called upon to act in some way. This is the future of this nation at stake right here, we have to resolve these problems now or we're toast.

[Beartracks]

70. Who's responsible for calling an Independent Prosecutor? n/t

[Kablooie]

30. No. They will just be labeled Republicans and continue as always.

Traitor is a label they wear with pride because it doesn't hurt them with their base at all.

[Dustlawyer]

34. Obstruction of Justice!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kingofalldems]

3. GOP conspired with Russia on hacks. A crime. Fact.

And all the 'it's not treason' people cannot deny it.

[ElementaryPenguin]

4. Yes. Perhaps a thousand times worse!!!

And Trump/Bannon/Putin is a thousand times bigger threat than Tricky Dick was!!!

[tblue37]

13. Nixon established the EPA. The Trumpsters are trying to destroy it. Yeah, they're worse. nt

[Achilleaze]

7. k and r

[kentuck]

8. Much more serious.

This threatens our democracy. Watergate didn't.

[KingCharlemagne]

22. The danger of these types of comparisons is that they risk

trivializing how serious Watergate really was. In essence, the branch of government sworn to see that the laws are faithfully executed was itself breaking the law, i.e., obstructing justice. That may not have threatened our democracy but it certainly threatened our constitutional order.

[nini]

10. Watergate is going to look like a picnic compared to this

This is beyond huge.

[Kingofalldems]

11. Conspiring with a foreign country---during the GOP convention.

Unheard of.

[njhoneybadger]

12. Putin holds all the cards, tRump and rethugs made a deal with the devil.

I doubt if he likes the prospects of US military build up and sanctions not being lifted.It might be in his best interest to blow this whole thing up.

[malaise]

14. On what date did Groper Don the Con ask Russia to leak Hillary's emails? n/t

[JudyM]

47. That had to have been one of the biggest Freudian slips in history.

"When you're a star" you can get away with anything, though, right Little Donnie?

[Ligyron]

15. and we're just a month into Dump's reign too!

It's usually the cover-up that gets them but we've got them coming and going on this one.

Nixon did have tapes but maybe the NSA does too. Among other IA's.

[radical noodle]

16. Why was the Russian ambassador

at the Republican National Convention anyway? That seems odd to me.

[Blue_true]

19. Sure does. nt

[SticksnStones]

28. Well, there was this Heritage Foundation event held during the convention

and there were 50 ambassadors at that event...which does give plausible coverage to why the Russian ambassador was there. Gives him a "hide in plain sight" cover story, IMO.

In July, Sessions attended a Heritage Foundation event at the Republican National Convention that was attended by some 50 ambassadors. A small group of ambassadors, including Kislyak, approached Sessions and talked to him informally, the Justice Department official told the Post.

Although it doesn't explain this:

A spokeswoman for Sessions confirmed the contact with Kislyak, saying the attorney general spoke on the phone with the ambassador from his office in September.That conversation took place during a time when intelligence officials assert that Russia was interfering with the U.S. presidential election through a hacking and influence campaign.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/321930-sessions-spoke-with-russian-ambassador-during-trumps-campaign

[radical noodle]

35. Russians are adversaries

Does the Heritage Foundation always cozy up to our adversaries?

[SticksnStones]

38. Well, according to the new and improved Republican Party the Russians are misunderstood

and should be our friends.

[radical noodle]

40. Oh that's right!

The Russians are our new BFF....

[JudyM]

48. Here's hoping that phone call was tapped.

[SticksnStones]

54. Can't imagine it wasnt

Especially since said diplomat was viewed as a top Russian spy.

[nocalflea]

72. It's common for diplomats to "witness"

the political processes of other govt.s Sometimes they ask to attend or they can be invited.(Invitations are extended as a courtesy. )
It's important for diplomats to gain insight into how different countries operate,how they see themselves, and to get to know the movers and shakers in order to recommend strategies and advice to the leadership back home to help in forming their polices.
(Think of the diplomatic cables that wikileaks published)

[gademocrat7]

17. K&R.

[Blue_true]

18. Yeah, but Democrats controlled Congress during Watergate.

The Republican Party has become a party of liars and hypocrites, don't expect them to lift a hand to investigate something that looks and smells like treason. You can bet that if Hillary was in Trump's soot, Articles of Impeachment would already be ready for a vote.

[NewJeffCT]

20. Yes - that's the catch

Not just control of Congress in the 1970s, but they had big advantages in both houses... I think Dems had 58 seats in the senate and a similar percentage advantage in the House.

But, public pressure has been working. Just need to keep it up

[JawJaw]

58. In those days

the Pukes weren't protected by the systematic propaganda manipulation of Fox, talk-radio and now the likes of Breitbart, etc.

It's possible for a Puke to live in a hermetically sealed right-wing media bubble, now. The "fake news" shit is merely one of the closing chapters in a strategy that's been planned ever since Watergate.

Whatever smoking gun(s) the spooks have got will have to come out sooner rather than later.

[Kimchijeon]

21. Yes, worse. But they don't care, and they know the MSM won't do shit

Neither with the GOP. Who has the authority to do anything? (not trying to be a rhetorical ass, just wondering)

Mountains of evidence.

[teamster633]

24. Crime of the Century

[greymattermom]

27. This will all come out

the minute the stock market has a correction.

[HopeAgain]

29. Still afraid that this will turn out like Iran-Contra

Lot's of there there, big show by congress, no action against treasonous Prez. Biggest traitor becomes idolized as one of America's great leaders by many.

[frazzled]

31. That was my thought, too

Russiagate is sort of an amalgam of Watergate (criminal interference in an election) and Iran Contra (shadow government operating in direct violation of American law). Iran Contra was, frankly, way more serious than Watergate. It was huge. And it slipped away with few consequences. I fear a repeat, too. But we shall see.

This is one of the biggest things I've seen in my many years. I can't help feeling that our country has been overtaken by foreign agents, and it didn't even take an invasion or war. Very dire.

[StevieM]

60. +1000, K&R!! I have been trying to tell people that about Iran-Contra lately. It was indeed

a mega-scandal that produce few consequences. You are right, in many ways it was more serious than Watergate.

Did you read my post about Oliver North last month? I'll provide a link to it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028548992

[Dream Girl]

33. No too much acces to information. The media environment was different

There was no internet. Lots of opportunity for people to share their understanding and understand the broader implications. Yes, we have lots of uninformed or ill informed folks, but it's out there and available to anyone who really wants to understand the truth.

[radical noodle]

36. We also have an intelligence community

that has been watching, listening and gathering information on this for months and those same people don't like trump.

[neohippie]

37. This is the quid pro quo

Russians tell GOP we will give you hacked documents if you get GOP to reverse course on sanctions, pay to play

[zentrum]

46. No wonder Beauregard always...

.....has that cat that swallowed the canary look on his smarmy, self-satisfied face.

[crazycatlady]

49. Could someone who was alive during Watergate explain more

Like compare it to this administration.

[Kingofalldems]

65. I watched the Watergate hearings. This is much worse.

[nocalflea]

71. Watergate was the covering up

of the break-in of DNC headquarters-Nixon may have been able to distance himself from this. I don't remember if he knew it was going to happen-I don't think he did.
What he did do was to direct the cover-up that linked the break-in to the RNC and Commitee to Re-elect the President (known by that creepy acronym CREEP).
Trump and his band of merry-men conspired with a foreign gov't. to subvert democracy - in exchange for ? Lot of supposition about Trump and friends motives. He may have more than one motive and the others probably have their own individual reasons.

This is definitely far worse than Watergate.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

50. k$R

[woodsprite]

59. Which was about the time that data analyst for the DNC, Seth Rich was murdered (July 10). n/t

[Angry Dragon]

62. kick ....... would like to kick him the ass

[bucolic_frolic]

66. It's XYZ-Alger Hiss-Watergate all rolled into one

it's like they're laughing that Hillary couldn't get elected and Democrats
will never figure out why

[alarimer]

67. I don't know.

I'm all for a special prosecutor, given that the entire administration has had contact with Russia in some way, shape or form. I just don't know if it really amounts to much.

What I fear is a big todo and then nothing much to show for it. Remember Patrick Fitzgerald? Indictments were on their way any minute, yet never materialized.

[TrollBuster9090]

68. Unfortunately, the public as FAR dumber, and FAR more partisan (at least the GOP base)

today than they were during Watergate.

I was only a boy when that happened, but I remember (way back in the day when Republicans and Democrats actually married each other) when the Republican side of my family finally gave up on Nixon, and thought he had to go 'for the good of the country.'

These days Republicans just say 'I couldn't care less if Trump is Putin's puppet, as long as he keeps the LIBTARDS out of the White House.'

[MyMission]

69. You can fool some of the people all of the time

and you can fool (almost) all of the people some of the time
But, you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
That goes for repuglicans too.

And I'm the product of a mixed repub-democrat marriage. There's a long history of that in my family. I believe Some of the pugs won't be fooled and will step up and side with democrats against Russian influence, and that will turn the tide.
I have to believe it. BOOM!