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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDear Trump Voters, here is your Friday Fun Message:
There are NO COAL JOBS coming back. That stupid fuck you voted for can't do shit about that. Any coal jobs that come back will be done by - wait for it - ROBOTS.
There are NO NEW STEEL JOBS coming back. Steel is automated. Robots are now doing the jobs he promised you.
But here's a bright spot. All those AgriJobs that were being done by the hard working brown skinned folk from South and Central America are going to be available. So will all the other low pay, unpopular jobs they were willing to take. I hear busses from MichiganOhioMinnesotaWestVirginia to FloridaTexasCaliforniaArizona farm areas are cheap enough. Are you up to it, bumpkins?
Oh, and for your votes, here's to you from the MoronInTheMAGAHat (which was made in China, by the way):
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)their work just before they were laid off and realized the jobs were never going to come back.
Dallasdem1988
(77 posts)If they live on the border they can sign up to rip apart families and get rid of those dangerous dreamers by joining ice.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)I said that to Trump humpers along the campaign trail and after the election. They are awfully quiet about jobs now. What a bunch of dumbasses. No one likes to hear they were played for suckers but the Trump humpers were definitely played. Trump said he loved the uneducated after all. And it's not because he feels sorry for them. When my mom came to this country, she picked cotton, beets, cherries and corn. It's hard, back-breaking work. If they are looking for work, they can always head out to the fields.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)As usual these folks get their grievance news from . As Tom Hartmann calls it Grievance Politics.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)I think there was no swaying them. Even now they don't want to believe it or admit it. They are making all kinds of excuses for him as if he is some kind of victim or something.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)behavioral trait. Tribal traits.
erronis
(15,253 posts)All the ties that bind us and also make us divisive and territorial.
However these poor people don't realize that Trump is not in their family/tribe, etc. And he doesn't want anything to do with you poor slobs. Your only purpose is to work in the fields and coal mines, clean his golden-pee toilets, and eventually be fertilizer for the crops that will be grown on your poor bodies.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Sad to say,I know people who have only left their County area only to report to the Draft Board. And they never were called up.
Ignorance is curable with Education and Stupidity is incurable.
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)Openings now but people can't pass the backgrounds checks and a percentage of them end up crooked,stealing drugs and taking bribes. We had two BP in Bisbee that were both for years and lived in mansions with new cars and toys. They would stop the smugglers and take the drugs. They finally got busted after about ten years,because one of the smugglers told on them...they went on the lam for awhile". I think they got caught eventually, but we all knew of crooked BP from living on the border over ten years.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)I was listening to npr and Trump said he wants 15,000 more agents. The guy talking about the hiring and training process said it is extremely arduous. And because of the issues with background checks in Bush's administration, it takes even longer. I have a feeling Trump will try to bypass some of the hoops. Don't know how effective he will be at it but I can see him trying to work around it. The guy said the whole process takes a couple years and that Trump might be lucky to get a third of the number he wants. Corruption is rampant in this administration, I wouldn't be surprised to see corruption in BP agents.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Our agriculture is actually - one of the best in the world.
We could increase our food production dramatically if we needed to, but farmers don't want to see prices go down if they grow too many crops. If it weren't for the profit motive, if all we had to do was grow the food, we could probably end world hunger in one growing season.
So my point is why are the wages so low, and why are so many young people leaving farming for city jobs? We have to figure out our priorities and make it possible for people to make a good living in agriculture. Has the Democratic Party ever even looked into this? Probably not, but maybe that's why the Midwestern states turned into red states so quickly.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)It would definitely help things for the Democrats to take a closer look at the Midwest and agricultural opportunities. It would help show that the party cares about the middle of the country and not just the coasts. I think young people are leaving for technical jobs and some don't want to do such back breaking work. Others want to explore life in the city.
Hekate
(90,683 posts)...in this past election. Hillary Clinton, especially, wrote and spoke about Midwestern needs, "not just the coasts." The Party platform reflects this. Hillary won by 3 million votes over Trump, so most of the people in the country heard her message loud and clear. She lost a couple of critical states by a slim margin, enough to throw the EC to Trump.
Hekate
(90,683 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 3, 2017, 11:22 PM - Edit history (1)
It's all agribusiness, and I assume it's that way in the Midwest, or at least I keep reading that. Family farms can't keep up with the cost of equipment and the greater efficiency of agribusiness. Little roadside stands won't make a living. Not everyone can switch to boutique organic farms and make a living.
American groceries are the most abundant in the world, and for most of us, among the least expensive per capita in the world. There are inner city "food deserts," but again, for most of us it's abundant and cheap.
Wages are low -- oh my, that's a huge topic -- because agribusiness is all about corporations and little people don't matter. I'm old enough to remember Cesar Chavez and his grape boycott and his attempts to unionize the migrant farmworkers. They are mostly migrants, travelling to tend and harvest the crops with the seasons, traditionally crossing the border back to Mexico likewise. They come from village farm backgrounds, if they end up in the fields here. People from the cities head to the cities, on the whole.
It is hard, hard labor, an awful of of it is "stoop labor." American city people do not seek it out because it is too far away to commute to, and because they don't have the necessary skills or levels of physical fitness.
As for "increasing our food production dramatically," we already produce more than we can possibly eat. We export an awful lot. But no, we cannot "end world hunger in one growing season." Wherever you see famine you see three things: drought, politics, and local corruption in the famine region. You don't even need drought, though with Global Climate Change that is going to be a constant from here on out (see Syria: drought: farmer migration to Syrian cities: social unrest: political repression: refugees). The US and its people are actually very generous to those in need, but much food-aid gets stolen at the docks or re-routed along the way, thanks to local corruption, never reaching the starving dying miles away.
TlalocW
(15,382 posts)That makes them only care about keeping coal jobs? With every other career, it's get some training, go back to school, learn a new trade, but not coal. They always try to protect those jobs (while screwing workers over on their pensions).
TlalocW
NoMoreRepugs
(9,423 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)which dovetailed into a story about U.S. steel companies possibly making railway track too as part of mass transit infrastructure repairs and upgrades. However, soon after tRump's military budget came out. On it was increased spending for that of $54B and on the chopping block were mass transit projects, including steel for road constructions and RAILWAY. How ironic!
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Climate change is going to bring more and costlier tropical storms and hurricanes into coastal communities, so replacing roofing is another growth industry. And, you'll be issued guns! (Nail guns, but hey, a gun is a gun, right?)
Assuming you can drag your fat asses up the ladder and replace shingles from dawn to dusk in the hot sun.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)svpadgham
(670 posts)Make R2D2 great again!
Hekate
(90,683 posts)...and broccoli, and that's just our little part of the coast. We need y'all for avocados, lemons, grapes, nectarines, lettuce, almonds, peaches -- you name it, we've got it, and it's all hard labor. With pesticides and not enough portapotties or drinking water. Bring sunscreen.
Idiots. Idiots. Idiots.
calimary
(81,264 posts)or anything much. And they don't even last year-round. And they pay even worse than you feared.
And your friendly republi-CONS with those one-liners and bumper-sticker slogans and dumbed-down conceptualizing and "USA, USA, USA" chants will have taken your health care away, too. Because tax cuts for the rich! Because lazy moochers! Because small government! Because "boot yerself up by your own bootstraps!" Because "get the guvmnt off yer back!"
I've been spreading this one around a little:
Why I'll Never Sympathize with Regretful Trump Voters - by Charlie Pierce of Esquire
(subtitle: They brought this disaster on themselves. They must own it.)
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a53491/regretful-trump-voters/