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(29,557 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,456 posts)rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I would love to know the basis for that belief.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)There surely are transcripts of intercepted Russian to Russian conversations. More than that would probably involve warrants if they were intercepted in the U.S.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I take that back. He just believes there are transcripts at this time.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)A transcript of a conversation between Ivan and Dimitri (just made up names) saying "The campaign wants...." is a lot different than a transcript of a call between Sessions or Flynn and Putin discussing strategy. I see this as a puzzle being slowly assembled and the missing pieces being supplied by lies known to be lies. I don't trust Comey but if he comes out of this as the next Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. that would be okay with me.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)However, with FISA they can get a warrant. And they did.
They would not have gotten permission to listen to and save conversations unless there was solid evidence.
And it would have required going through several layers of "command" for this to happen. It's not like some rogue person can do this on a whim.
So there is some damning evidence being held.
We don't know which Americans it is though. Not yet.
Presumably Flynn was one. And perhaps Sessions.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)I wonder what kind of chess is being played here.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)I'm gonna call it 'Sessions-a-Lago' (my new suffix for all scandals) is such a big deal.
As AG, Sessions is over the FBI. If he participated in any kind of 'orders to the FBI' on this matter, they (the Trump administration) are all toast.
Even if the 'direction' that he gave the FBI seemed inert, it has cast a shadow on the entire investigation.
It's not gonna do any good to throw the FBI off track because the intelligence community has the information. That's how this congressman is so confident in its existence.
This is one of the reasons why Sessions should resign right away.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)that is only resolved if republicans decide to become patriots.
If not, democracy is done, country is over and we are not safe.
Delphinus
(11,830 posts)Comey must cooperate.
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)In any repuke. They are all united in their universal ideology, and are therefore no help in this crisis.
MrPurple
(985 posts)until they get their tax cuts, military increases and government/regulatory slashing reductions into law.
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)Nt
lastlib
(23,226 posts)and maybe the Civil War.............? (at least get back to Jim Crow...)
MrPurple
(985 posts)It's just one of their vehicles for manipulating the rubes who support them.
tblue37
(65,342 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)After all, it's been enough lately for Republicans to say they "believe" the protesters showing up at their town halls are paid outsiders. Sen. Coon's belief should be sufficient for the media to report this surmise as factual, right?
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)...snip...
In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government -- a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Trump praises at every opportunity.
The public has a right to know this information. I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information.
Kingofalldems
(38,456 posts)jalan48
(13,864 posts)The information about Trump is there, the problem is how to put it out to the public. Republican's need a way to save face yet see Trump go. Maybe that's one reason the information is being dribbled out slowly, let the public as whole gradually get used to the idea that Trump is indeed a crook. After the tipping point has been determined to be reached then Trump leaves and we move ahead, our Democracy has survived!
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)There is no way to clear any of them.
jalan48
(13,864 posts)I think that may be part of what is going on behind the scenes. I also think many Democrats will be content with getting rid of Trump and will be willing to let other Republicans skate as part of the back room agreement. Besides, Republican's control the Congress. When Nixon was finally impeached he was then pardoned by President Gerald Ford for any crimes "he might have committed". We got rid of Nixon and the Republicans avoided a long drawn out public trial.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)That's what makes this different and scary.
jalan48
(13,864 posts)Pretty serious stuff. And if he was caught doing that what else would have surfaced had he been forced to face trial. Perhaps a few of Trump's underlings will take the rap like Nixon's did. They will get a few years in a country club prison and we will move on. I don't think it's right but it seems to be the way these things get handled. If I remember correctly Bill Clinton passed on going after the Iran/Contra gang and Obama chose not to go after Bush and Cheney for war crimes. Let's look forward, not backward seems to be the political motto.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)jalan48
(13,864 posts)I'm sure a few of his underlings will be indicted however most Americans will be thankful just for the fact that Trump is no longer President and will be willing to move on.
pansypoo53219
(20,976 posts)rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)spanone
(135,831 posts)Quixote1818
(28,934 posts)lying and trying to cover things up?
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)Asked to confirm at the end, he says "I believe they exist."
So they do exist, or he has been told they exist. Wow.
Quixote1818
(28,934 posts)Everything he said reminds me of that quote from an intelligence official: http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/intelligence-community-against-trump
lamp_shade
(14,833 posts)There's no doubt in my mind that he knows. Had he said "I know" there would be backlash. He was smart enough to say "I believe".
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)The thread title is supposed to give an indication of the subject matter. Boom is not a thread title.
Kingofalldems
(38,456 posts)Please... ain't much of a response title either.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)I was just asking that you have some consideration for the rest of us who are reading through the posts.