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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:04 PM Mar 2017

The President of the United States is a Russian espionage agent.

why is no one saying that?

Priebus and other WH staff who tried to shut down the investigation into the Russian info. committed obstruction of justice, as did everyone who lied about their involvement.
Why is no one saying that?

I guess treason is out, since selling out your country for money is not covered, nor is Russia technically an enemy, altho it seems difficult to discuss being in a Cold War with an ally.

Thoughts?

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The President of the United States is a Russian espionage agent. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 OP
Because they are too busy crying, "Obama met with him, TOO!!!!!" WinkyDink Mar 2017 #1
That one is laughable, meetings in public versus lying under oath about meetings held in private. Fred Sanders Mar 2017 #2
Just saw a pic of the Ambass. at the SOTU speech dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #14
Yea, that one smells bad.BTW, he was also at RNC and few Trump rallies (saw some screengrabs on news iluvtennis Mar 2017 #21
Wait, what? At Trump RALLIES? LisaM Mar 2017 #28
I'll try to find a link..thought I recall seeing it on Rachel Maddow's show on MSNBC iluvtennis Mar 2017 #41
Oh, I believe it. LisaM Mar 2017 #44
I also remember seeing that and it must have been on Rachel's show Rhiannon12866 Mar 2017 #48
At the Tues teleprompter "speech" iluvtennis Mar 2017 #43
The difference is that Obama was President at the time, all of those trump clowns... George II Mar 2017 #25
If not an Agent, then most certainly some type of Asset... Raster Mar 2017 #3
But why would Putin recruit such a bumbling fucking idiot? leftstreet Mar 2017 #4
Not being smart helps make it easier for him to be recruited and manipulated. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #8
On target. eom guillaumeb Mar 2017 #10
The ego is the key factor, it will bring him down. George II Mar 2017 #26
I was concerned when he acted almost civilized at SOTU speech. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #36
Actually that wasn't his state of the union address, that will come in a month or so.... George II Mar 2017 #40
Sorry..I forgot what the hell it was..... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #42
It could have been billed his State of his Administration speech. Didn't watch OR read... George II Mar 2017 #47
Yes. Weaknesses can be manipulated too. Mr. Evil Mar 2017 #34
Cuz Putin REALLY HATES Hillary and jhe wanted anyone other than her.... iluvtennis Mar 2017 #22
Some have theorized elmac Mar 2017 #23
I think Putin is more interested in destabilizing NATO now, than "payback" for 17 yr old event. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #30
@RoguePOTUSstaff is saying exactly that Qutzupalotl Mar 2017 #5
Basically all elected Republicans and several FBI agents DURHAM D Mar 2017 #13
Who (or what) are they? triron Mar 2017 #15
Believed to be actual staffers not keen on Trump Qutzupalotl Mar 2017 #17
I have noticed that too. Jim Beard Mar 2017 #39
I'm guessing that we're at a bottleneck because their supporters are too brainwashed to Baitball Blogger Mar 2017 #6
his code name is Piss Bubbler luvMIdog Mar 2017 #7
And so are almost all of his cabinet. The reason nobody is saying it is Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #9
It's like a bad movie, but true. K&R trof Mar 2017 #11
Because it's an extraordinary claim which needs extraordinary proof. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #12
ty for that ray of hope.. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #18
Kick.. coco22 Mar 2017 #16
K&R... spanone Mar 2017 #19
Is Trump a Manchurian Candidate? dlk Mar 2017 #20
I agree uwep Mar 2017 #24
The Siberian Candidate Cha Mar 2017 #32
Russian espionage "asset" (not "agent") - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #27
I think he WAS an espionage agent during the campaign bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #29
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Mar 2017 #31
Is this The Onion? SCantiGOP Mar 2017 #33
I concur! lastlib Mar 2017 #35
Bear in mind that he has been financially connected to the Russians for decades dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #37
From what I'm seeing, it goes WAY beyond even that! lastlib Mar 2017 #46
These people really are not very smart......... Jim Beard Mar 2017 #38
More likely what they term "a useful idiot." Some of the rest of that sorry lot may... Hekate Mar 2017 #45

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. Just saw a pic of the Ambass. at the SOTU speech
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:47 PM
Mar 2017

(interesting he was even there)
and he looks like Fatty Arbuckle.

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
28. Wait, what? At Trump RALLIES?
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:12 PM
Mar 2017

While it's strange, being at the convention doesn't seem the worst thing in the world - influential people, other ambassadors (from what I've heard), etc.

But to be at a Trump rally is a horse of a different color.

Rhiannon12866

(205,327 posts)
48. I also remember seeing that and it must have been on Rachel's show
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:05 PM
Mar 2017

She really has been hitting it out of the park lately with these new revelations and she does not back off, just keeps promoting these important stories despite the latest distractions!

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. The difference is that Obama was President at the time, all of those trump clowns...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:08 PM
Mar 2017

...were private citizens.

Methinks Manafort will roll on trump someday.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
3. If not an Agent, then most certainly some type of Asset...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:10 PM
Mar 2017

...tRump* seems to have more loyalty and fealty to Putin* and Russia than to the United States.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. Not being smart helps make it easier for him to be recruited and manipulated.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:24 PM
Mar 2017

Huge ego, easily manipulated.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
36. I was concerned when he acted almost civilized at SOTU speech.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:16 AM
Mar 2017

Some ego shine, but it appears his handlers had considerable influence.
However, I will continue to trust that his nature will show again.

George II

(67,782 posts)
40. Actually that wasn't his state of the union address, that will come in a month or so....
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:32 AM
Mar 2017

...I suspect the SOTU will be a totally disaster. Look for the eyerolls of Pence and Ryan when he speaks.

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. It could have been billed his State of his Administration speech. Didn't watch OR read...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:19 AM
Mar 2017

...all I've seen have been small pieces that have been run as part of news reports.

I can't stomach him.

Mr. Evil

(2,844 posts)
34. Yes. Weaknesses can be manipulated too.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:35 PM
Mar 2017

Like having a weakness for deviant sexual desires and other warped pleasures.

All these smug republican traitors are in for a real shit-storm when the shit actually hits the fan. And it will! They don't seem to realize the dangerous game they're playing and who is actually making the rules and it isn't 45! Someone will get disappeared, someone will cough it up. Dominoes, anyone?

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
22. Cuz Putin REALLY HATES Hillary and jhe wanted anyone other than her....
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:33 PM
Mar 2017

...Putty says HRC disrespected him when she called out that Russia elections weren't free and fair when she was SecState

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
23. Some have theorized
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:39 PM
Mar 2017

that Putins main motivation for interfering with the election was payback for Bill Clinton bringing Poland into NATO which was in direct conflict with some Soviet breakup promise or agreement made by Bush Sr. Putin probably didn't think Americans were dumb enough to elect sniffles. Some ruskies in power already have buyers remorse.

Qutzupalotl

(14,311 posts)
5. @RoguePOTUSstaff is saying exactly that
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:12 PM
Mar 2017

as of today:






They have over 800,000 followers, so this should be entering the larger conversation soon.

Qutzupalotl

(14,311 posts)
17. Believed to be actual staffers not keen on Trump
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:10 PM
Mar 2017

but some say they are psyops taken over by Bannon.

They claim to be several people taking turns posting at various hours of the day, usually not from the WH. They seem to exhibit different writing styles, consistent with their explanation that they are different people. Sometimes snarky, sometimes insightful.

Take what they say with a grain of salt. I find them interesting nevertheless.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
9. And so are almost all of his cabinet. The reason nobody is saying it is
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:26 PM
Mar 2017

hating black people, gays and liberals is more important to half of America than the survival of America itself.


I often wonder how much violence we would have seen if the Russians hadnt hacked the electoral systems in the various rust belt states thus stealing the election.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/states-major-election-hacking-228978

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
12. Because it's an extraordinary claim which needs extraordinary proof.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 08:38 PM
Mar 2017

Which is why the IC may be releasing things in bits and pieces.

So the press, the public and politicians can acclimate themselves.

By the time this is done, only a small number of people will still swallow Trump/Bannon/Breitbart's bullshit concerning this mess.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
18. ty for that ray of hope..
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:26 PM
Mar 2017

my mood has been mostly gleeful since all the news broke, but once in awhile I think of how much damage he can do even in a short time, and shudder.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
20. Is Trump a Manchurian Candidate?
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 09:29 PM
Mar 2017

Although he's not bright enough to be an assassin, given his brown-nosing of Putin, Trump could very well be a Russian agent.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
29. I think he WAS an espionage agent during the campaign
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:14 PM
Mar 2017

now he's just an open book, open border, stand down for Vladdy kind of guy

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
35. I concur!
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:37 PM
Mar 2017

He and his crew are too deeply in bed with Russian connections for anything else to be true.

Sedition might be a makeable case, though. Certainly Racketeering. And if the GOPeee isn't a corrupt organization, then neither is the Mafia. So there's RICO.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
37. Bear in mind that he has been financially connected to the Russians for decades
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:19 AM
Mar 2017

and it appears that the "blackmail" they say they have has to do with with years of money laundering.
more and more people are putting the pieces together.

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
46. From what I'm seeing, it goes WAY beyond even that!
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 07:41 AM
Mar 2017

Russia has HUGE undeveloped oil reserves in Siberia. They need ExxonMobil (Tillerson) to develop them. They need the Crimea to give them a warm-water seaport to pass it thru to market. They got it, but US sanctions put a big smack on 'em. They need 'em lifted, and OrangeTurd is just the guy to do it. They had to intervene in our election to keep Hillary out, b/c she would've hit 'em harder. Rosneft( the Russian state oil company) recently sold millions of shares of its stock to a Cayman Islands shell company (*undisclosed investors* but you can BET OrangeTurd is getting a piece of it).

Follow the Benjamins.....

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
38. These people really are not very smart.........
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:19 AM
Mar 2017

They got into this thing thinking they could make a bunch of money. The Income taxes will tell the tale.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
45. More likely what they term "a useful idiot." Some of the rest of that sorry lot may...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:16 AM
Mar 2017

...have been actually "turned" by Kislyak, as he is reputed to be incredibly skilled at doing that.

Trump is being managed and manipulated, no doubt by a combination of cash and blackmail. I wonder what kind of leash the others are on?

As for Russia not being an enemy, I think it's pretty clear the Intelligence professionals consider Russia hostile. I think Putin is comfortable with the dynamics of a Cold War -- but the actions of interfering with our election(s) and that if other nations really was an act of war -- just cyber-war, which we are all going to have to figure out how to wage pretty quickly before every Western nation finds itself "electing" a RW white nationalist for president or prime minister.

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