Maddow is talking about figuring out a "Deep Throat". Christopher Steele?

[joet67]

I'm typing as she is talking. Tune in if you are interested. On edit: it was 15 minutes in when I tuned in, in case you catch it on a rerun. She said the fact the Flynn story involved certain information, she explained that means there HAD to already be an ongoing FISA warrant, and also that also meant the fact the info is out means there is a leaker in very high places.

[bettyellen]

1. Had to have a warrant because content of the phone calls was leaked and

There would not be transcripts of a call w an American if there wasn't a warrant already. WOW!

[KittyWampus]

5. For more in depth view of this process read Eichwald's article. He discussed this in detail

the process involves a FISA warrant and about 3 levels of management signing off and okaying the listening in on an American and also the retaining of that information.

[rzemanfl]

8. Unless the transcript came from the Brits, the Dutch, another ally or one of the people Putin had

killed.

[bettyellen]

13. I believe Flynn was in America at the time... there seemed to be an assumption the leaker was ours..

[rzemanfl]

17. Could be a leaker with access to stuff from the broader intelligence community.

A call to the Kremlin reporting the ambassador's conversation that was intercepted, that sort of thing.

There is so much we don't know or can't trust.

[Raster]

2. Rachel has been brilliant.

[skylucy]

6. I agree.

[joet67]

7. Yeah, she is really the only journalist of her kind right now, as far as connecting the dots and

explaining things. I agree with you.

[skylucy]

3. Every day the story grows. It seems like there is so much information, it cannot be leaked and

reported all at one time. It is taking a while, but it keeps getting bigger and bigger every day.

[joet67]

10. Yeah, it's like it's building and building. I have my popcorn for now, but I'm hoping

this turns into a slow barbecue.

[bdamomma]

4. I just turned her on.

thanks

[joet67]

11. yw. nt

[tallahasseedem]

9. This is scary stuff...

I will definitely watch that Russian 1 hour video.

[joet67]

14. Yeah me too, but I'm hoping someone subtitles it or something pretty quick for the

mass consumption.

[bettyellen]

15. What's that?

[joet67]

18. She showed on that a Russian took with a drone that showed Putin's underling's

vast, opulent real estate holdings, and I don't know what else. It was in Russian though. Not sure if that's the vid they meant, but that's what was on when I tuned in. If it's an hour long, I'm sure there was a lot of other stuff. Not sure how it tied into the whole story.

[bettyellen]

19. The drone footage was taken of Putin's underlings palatial homes -

To show how filthy rich they are. (When they don't earn much and have always been civil servants)
I'm not sure if they let them put it on TV but they are for the campaign of the man running against Putin! What courage.

[joet67]

20. Ok, thank you. I wish I tuned in a little sooner. I will catch the whole thing again on the

repeat.

[bettyellen]

22. You're welcome! Yes it's worth watching.

[shraby]

12. I'm watching her. She's outstanding.

[joet67]

16. She has been for days and days. I hadn't been watching her as much because I am

consuming 24/7 right now and flipping all around to get everyone's take on things. The last few days I have tuned in though, and she's on a real tear.

[dflprincess]

21. What we really need is a John Dean

someone who is will go on the record about every last sordid detail.

Of course, Dean didn't do that until he realized he was probably the one who was going to be thrown under the bus. It may take a while before any of Trump's minions figure they're the designated sacrifice.

[joet67]

24. Surely they all know just how deep in it they are...

don't they? My God, the deeper this goes, why wouldn't you start bailing? Arnold did just that today, btw, on that stupid tv show. Someone needs to start singing.

[OliverQ]

23. Wow

Now she's getting into the Russian fertilizer guy and Wilbur Ross. Russian guy overpaid Trump for a mansion in Palm Beach.

And the Russian fertilizer king kept showing up in several cities at the same time as Trump right before the election.

[joet67]

25. Wilbur Ross thing just blew my mind when I found out. It's right out in the open.

How did they even get away with this?

[unc70]

26. At least one FISA warrant was issued before the election

A couple of months ago, it was reported (WaPo or NYT, I think) that FISA warrant had been issued shortly before the election. Two previous requests had been rejected by the FISA Court for being too broad and lacking sufficient evidence.

BTW Alittle-noticed law was changed back in December to make it easier for intelligence agencies to share information regarding US citizens. I have suspected all along that this was done specifically to help with this investigation.

I think that a lot of people are going down in this scandal including senior staff, Trump associates, and some members of Congress.

I am reminded of the WWII allegations regarding Coventry and Enigma. While those allegations are likely myth, great effort was taken to conceal the work at Bletchley.

[joet67]

27. My goodness I do hope you are right. The info about the law change in December

makes sense, but wouldn't that mean some people who might be ensnared had to vote for it? Just thinking out loud.

[zentrum]

29. Not really helpful.

Suppose there is a leaker---but outing that idea on public media doesn't make him/her more likely to continue and it increases the draconian privacy crack-down the WH is already imposing on staff.

Her being "brilliant" is not really worth the attention this will garner. It's not that Bannon hasn't figured out this is the case--it's that now there's public perception that there's a leaker. Bannon will not tolerate that.
I wish she hadn't gone there.