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The latest killing related to the Trump-Russia scandal was a US citizen, of either Ukrainian or Russian birth, Alex Oronov, a resident of Hollywood Florida. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8749052 Most of the others were Russian (FSB officials) or Ukranians. We know he's tried to kill Russian emigres living in the US and successfully killed Alexander Litvenchenko (poisoned with Polonium-210) in London.
I wonder how far Putin will go? Would he take out someone like Carter Page or Manafort? Those guys are some of the worst liars I've ever seen, and Page is now spilling the beans. If Putin did order the killing of Oronov, which Gary Kasperov thinks is business as usual for him, where will he stop? Perhaps Trump's inner circle has more to worry about than prosecution?
JI7
(89,249 posts)and i can believe that considering how bad the appearances were. it's not like he had to go on or people were demanding anything of him the way they are with sessions and other bigger names.
but he wanted to get it out there but at the same time he is still to scared to reveal all.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)but it makes sense. He figures it's harder to kill him if he's been all over the news.
I wondered why those guys were doing those appearances.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)wishstar
(5,269 posts)Knowing how much Putin hates Hillary, Page has been trying to deflect and distract with nonsensical attacks on Clinton thrown in with his weird non-denial denials about his Trump/Russia connections.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)On which program?
wishstar
(5,269 posts)Page did a lengthy interview on CNN with Anderson Cooper also, that I didn't see in entirety, but I believe he inserted some of his loony anti-Clinton stuff since I noticed that in the early part of interview he tried to bring that in before Cooper cut him off.
In Chris Hayes interview, Page talked about his wacky accusations against Clinton Campaign and when Hayes brought up the secretive Rosneft oil deal (the 19.5% sale after election to mysterious Glencore) Page made sure to throw out name of Glencore's founder Marc Rich. (Pardoned by Bill Clinton- but Marc Rich sold Glencore in 1993 and died in 2013 so that was a red herring for Page to say his name as Marc Rich had nothing to do with this current Rosneft deal)
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/carter-page-russia-donald-trump/index.html
"In February, Page released a letter he sent to the Department of Justice asking the law enforcement branch to look into "election fraud," "hate crimes" and other misdeeds from the Clinton campaign and its allies." The letter described in link below:
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/15/carter-page-at-center-of-trump-russian-investigation-writes-bizarre-letter-to-doj-blaming-hillary-clinton/
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)world wide wally
(21,743 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)with deplorables demanding the arrest of the Muslim Obama for wiretapping Trump. They believe anything Trump tells them. Stupid doesn't begin to describe Trump supporters.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)If he can off someone with a radioactive polonium drink in a top London hotel, then he is not scared of anything.
The polonium one was a big warning to everyone else....normally Putin sanctioned murder is something you would not know about, poison tips, "heart attacks", is the usual mode, slip in, slip out, leave no trace but that polonium one was the big "don't fuck me over" statement.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)Bannon et al have plenty to worry about from leaky leakers
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)And it's Putin's MO. That White House crowd can't change a light bulb without someone leaking it. I don't think they could pull it off. Putin has got himself involved with a collection of incompetents.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)He has been playing a dangerous, dangerous game and is out of his depth.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Initech
(100,069 posts)Isis is just a distraction. Putin is the real enemy.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)he's already one of the very very richest men in the world.
wtf is doing with his dr. evil plan to apparently brink back together most of the old ussr? complete megalomaniac, it would appear to me, with zero compunction against any sort of truly evil acts one can imagine, from the poisoning/ beatings to death of journalists, shooting down of passenger planes, invasions, on and on.
no bottom to this guy's perfidy....right up there with all the worst mass murdering maniacs in history. he just hasn't had the time to rack up the really big numbers, but he's definitely on track
the more you find out about this friend of Bush (look in to his EYES), the scarier it gets
Initech
(100,069 posts)And now he's got us in his back pocket. With the largest army in the free world not doing anything to stop him, if those sanctions are lifted, there's no telling what kind of damage he could do.
Vinca
(50,270 posts)Apparently he was the mastermind behind the DNC hacking. Pootie seems to be trying to get rid of evidence. That should make the Trump loyalists nervous.