Went to the dark side, watched Fox. They are confusing and conflating

[Laura PourMeADrink]

EVERYTHING. So bad, my head is spinning. I don't even know if I can pull out a bottom line, seriously. If anything...Obama is a staunch partisan, over-reaching his power, tapping every Tom, Dick and Harry. Tapped Trump, Flynn, Manafort, everyone.

There is no frigging way, that their audience would ever think that Trump did anything. Hell, they were so good - even I started to think - hey - there's something to this.

Now, need to have a lobotomy.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

1. If he tapped them

I'm sure he had a darn good reason- and I'm confident that he acted in a legal fashion. By this point we all are reasonably confident that there had to have been some collusion with Russia during the campaign last year. What remains to be seen is to what extent and who exactly on the Trump team was involved and whether or not Trump is truly compromised.

BTW watching Fox is truly like looking into another reality entirely.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

4. Holy shit...are we actually saying there is a possibility that what Trump is saying

could be true? Albeit totally legal and justified ? We just have to power through all this - and hope in the end this crazy ass person and his associates are brought to justice? Why does our side have to do it alone?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. Confusing and conflating is their standard operating procedure. Maddow does the opposite. nt

[cilla4progress]

3. Ewww

I had a guy recently do this to me. I was stunned and terribly shaken at the effect his propaganda campaign had on me. This is a psychological trick. I don't know how it works, just that it did. Took me awhile to get over it.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. All of us have had a hard time keeping all of this straight - and we are in the know. Purposely

confuse it all and they can shape it anyway they want.

How do the people who work for Fox sleep at night. I suppose they may think of themselves as actors?

[kentuck]

6. Actually, I think I would feel better if I knew...

that President Obama had talked the FBI into getting a FISA warrant?

At the least, it would show that he was concerned about the security of our nation.

I wish he had done what they accuse him of doing.

[southerncrone]

7. Be careful there, Laura PMAD. It's like looking at Medusa--your brain will turn to stone.