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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm finding it hard to believe Ben Carson was ever a "brain surgeon".
This man's stupidity is breathtaking and it's making me wonder how any human being could survive a procedure done by him. I realize that makes me sound like a CT loon but It's just not believable. I wouldn't trust him to stitch up a simple cut let alone someone's cranium.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)in benny's case.. dumber than shite everywhere else.
I wonder how he's going to muddle through head of HUD without killing it?
BannonsLiver
(16,375 posts)If I ran into him in public before he became famous I'd likely assume he's had some kind of head trauma in his past.
Rhiannon12866
(205,320 posts)joet67
(624 posts)Makes me wonder if he's a sham who just hasn't gotten caught yet. Maybe I've watched too many investigative shows over the years, but it wouldn't surprise me if he just reads stuff out of a few books and then does stuff.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)His work separating the conjoined twins was apparently exceptional. Could fake that.
His being some kind of savant would fit. The only place he's competent is inside someone's head (pun intended)
MedusaX
(1,129 posts)He is to serve as Dr. Kavorkian ...
and help put HUD out of its alleged misery....
Cha
(297,196 posts)are helped immensely by the assist from HUD.
BannonsLiver
(16,375 posts)I don't think Agent Orange is that into HUD or understands what it does. It seems possible Carson will be left to his own devices so maybe he just sort of falls asleep (literally) on the job without any real fundamental changes.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)That would be the approach. Is anything in the budget an entitlement that would require legislation beyond the next budget?
$50B which is close to the amount for the defense build up.
Ben Carson won't lift a finger to stop any budget reductions. In that he is like DeVos and Tillerson.
Cha
(297,196 posts)nice.. not destroy it like they want to do with People's Health care.
We'll have to look back on these speculations and hopes when it's more clear which direction the somnolent dr will take it.
But, he's one scary dude with thoughts like these.. oh look he acknowledged "slavery" then..
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)were never fortunate enough to get any help so we were forced to move pretty much constantly from one place to another *sigh*
Cha
(297,196 posts)Sounds like my family way back in the day.. before HUD.. which started September 9, 1965.
I fell into it quite by accident in New York.. my landlady's daughter worked for them and she could see I was having trouble with my rent.
putitinD
(1,551 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)understand HUD's mission. Others are correct, however. Listening to Carson talk about ANYTHING leads me to conclude that I wouldn't trust him with making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich-- even IF he can do brain surgery.
The GOOD news is that he no longer practices surgery.
putitinD
(1,551 posts)why they put a blunderfuck in charge of it. To run it into the ground.
calimary
(81,238 posts)Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)My husband and I were talking about this last night.
HAB911
(8,891 posts)to kill HUD, as is Perry's assignment
True Dough
(17,304 posts)Nah, not at all. But he's entertaining, at least.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Wait a minute.. he acknowledges Slavery there.. so he's mr two face benny carson.
True Dough
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)I keep thinking he's a Holiday Inn Express ad.
elleng
(130,895 posts)during my first job in DC a colleague, who lived in/near Baltimore, told me about Carson the GREAT brain surgeon, and that was around 1980.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)Along with his medical degree from Michigan. He is 65 though, and I wonder that, along with having to tow the line on right wing orthodoxy, has impacted his mental skills. He lives in a right wing sound chamber where Africans sold their people into slavery, there where other slaves than Africans, many had it tough when first arriving in the country, life was better for their descendants than if they remained in Africa, and slavery was not all that bad - just look at Gone with the Wind.
The number of people on message boards justifying the analogy is simply amazing. Transport by slave ships kind of matches the vanilla definition of immigration.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)the way he articulates his sentences, and expresses his thoughts, he gives an observer the impression that he's somewhat neurologically delayed. There's something going on with this guy that would lead most to believe that he's suffering from some early onset dementia. His total body expressions, from his eyes to his hands to his language, appear to suggest that he's not capable, AT THIS TIME IN HIS LIFE, of complex problem solving. Perhaps he's on a powerful medication that diminishes his daily functioning. Nothing seems normal.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)I keep thinking it was savant syndrome that allowed him to succeed academically and ultimately perform delicate surgeries. If he steps one inch outside that narrow field, the "idiot" part of savant syndrome shows up rather badly. However, it takes a lot to survive pre med, medical school, internship, residency, and advanced training. I don't see him as capable of doing that in his current condition.
It's either that or brain damage somewhere along the line causing him to leave his career suddenly in favor of being a public dumbass.
I would be very interested in finding out what full cognitive and neuro evaluations would turn up.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)And then when she came back to him complaining of pain, he claimed it was a brain tumor.
http://gawker.com/report-ben-carson-once-left-a-sponge-in-a-patients-bra-1735224497
He has been repeatedly sued for malpractice. It does not appear his hands or head were all that gifted.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)former9thward
(32,003 posts)Including any that have done surgery on you. And the more complicated the surgery the more they are sued. It goes with the job. That is why their medical malpractice insurance is so high.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)former9thward
(32,003 posts)Maybe not in your world. Some plaintiffs' claims are valid, others are total fabrications. But I know that's a RW talking point...
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)former9thward
(32,003 posts)But internet posters do, I know that.
Staph
(6,251 posts)My friend says that Carson did exactly as much as was required and absolutely nothing else. Most young would-be surgeons are gung-ho and wildly competitive (as was/is my friend). Carson was not like them. And apparently, he still isn't.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)through Carson's inattention, and if any scandal blows up (and there has been two in Republican administrations), Carson will be left holding the bag. It will be a twofer for the right wingers - proves HUD is corrupt and blacks are incompetent. Bannon must have had an orgasm when Carson accepted.
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)defrauded the government out our millions while poor people were simply ignored. I think Reagan had more of his administration put in jail than any other modern President to date.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)MFM008
(19,808 posts)It was brawny sturgeon. ...
Mountain Mule
(1,002 posts)emotionally/psychologically with profound personality disorders and still excel academically. Look at Ted Bundy. His university professors praised him to the skies and he made it into law school. The only reason he had to quit was because he kept on killing women and finally got caught.
Ben Carson may very well kill more people than Bundy did if he allows HUD to go down the tubes without a word of protest. Lots of Americans who are elderly or disabled or the children of single Mom's count on housing assistance to save them from life on the streets. I'm one of them. Turn us all out on the pavement and many will die. I'm going to take two sleeping pills and knock myself out tonight. I can't take much more of this.
calimary
(81,238 posts)This is excruciating. It feels like long slow torture - that doesn't leave any marks except to turn your mind inside out.
I swear, I now wake up most mornings feeling like a hostage.
dchill
(38,488 posts)Until that DIY lobotomy.
Granny M
(1,395 posts)Throck
(2,520 posts)calimary
(81,238 posts)OMG - I forgot about that! Art imitating life in the case of this idiot savant.
littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)They come in all colors, shapes and sizes. Surgeons, in particular, are known for their enormous god complexes.
Surgeonsfor some reason categorized separately from other doctorsare among the 10 most psychopathic professions, though they do get edged out by lawyers, media workers, and CEOs for the top three spots.
Reference
Kevin Dutton
The Wisdom of Psychopaths: What Saints, Spies, and Serial Killers Can Teach Us About Success
F First Edition Edition
ISBN-13: 978-0374291358, ISBN-10: 0374291357
tavalon
(27,985 posts)surgeons really are a different kind of asshole from doctors in other specialties. Now, I can show you examples that contradict both of those, but as a trend, I see why they are listed separately.
Again, as a nurse, I am horrified to see my profession listed, and yet, I meet some really, really, off nurses. Most are awesomely wonderful, caring people. Some make me wonder what ever caused them to take this career path.
lostnfound
(16,178 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)He would be basking in admiration instead of being on display as a idiotic oddity.
Kittycow
(2,396 posts)severe neurological damage. So maybe he just pioneered the techniques?
tavalon
(27,985 posts)By many accounts he was, accent on the was, a really good brain surgeon. There is no way I would let him near my big toe now, so I must assume something changed. He always made me scratch my head. I suppose his old coworker's could be lying, but why?
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)Something's going on with this guy, and it isn't good.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)I wouldn't let him treat my cats.
Orrex
(63,208 posts)I got into a heated argument on FB with a friend-of-a-friend.
I couldn't believe how stupid he was, making wild claims directly at odds with reality while displaying a basic failure to understand politics, economics and foreign policy, and he lashed out with incredible savagery at anyone who disagreed with him.
Eventually I Googled him and couldn't believe the result: he's an accomplished and highly respected physician & research scientist as well as a department head at a major university on the west coast.
I asked my friend (whom I've known for almost 30 years) about this, and she confirmed that that's who he is, and in fact that's how she met him.
I'm sure that the good doctor sees himself as an expert in all things, but he's further proof that expertise in one field is no barrier to abject stupidity in another. Hence Dr. Ben Carson.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The guy's a creationist who thinks joseph built the pyramids for grain storage. I wouldnt trust him to operate a bumper car.
HAB911
(8,891 posts)that he was simply crazy.
He said, "He's a doctor!"
I said, "You think there are no crazy doctors?"
babbling ensued
JHan
(10,173 posts)Humans can be brilliant and dumb at the same time. Even a high IQ won't stop cognitive errors: you can have a high IQ and still be irrational about a lot of things.
Juliusseizure
(562 posts)Just pointing that out
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)white supremacist sentiments....
Orsino
(37,428 posts)spanone
(135,831 posts)that's the only thing that makes sense.
either that or he's a savant.