How many iPhones does your health insurance cost?

[wildeyed]

Handy calculator here:

https://howmanyiphonesdoesitcost.com

You can tweet your answer at Jason Chaffetz. I'm sure he will be grateful for the data.

[Turbineguy]

1. Now that you put it that way.....

I suppose I could drop the insurance and get 21 times as many phone scam calls.

[wildeyed]

3. Or play Pokemon Go on 21 screens at one time!

21 phones to forget to mute and have ring at unexpected and inappropriate times. 21 screens to break. 21 phones to drop in water. The fun goes on and on. Who needs health care when I could have all that?

[greatauntoftriplets]

2. Just a guess, but 72.

The minor procedure I'm having Thursday might be 3 or 4. Aside, I have a Nokia android that cost $15 with a two-year contract.

[wildeyed]

6. I have a $7,000 deductible, on top of premiums.

So many iPhones to pay for that... We should call him Jason "Let them eat cake" Chaffetz. The guy who has government healthcare AND a government smart phone, so he has no idea what those things cost us little people.

[greatauntoftriplets]

10. I'm on Medicare, but I fear what they'll do to screw that up.

I'll just call Chaffetz someone who doesn't care about the welfare of the people.

[yeoman6987]

37. I think you have to include the monthly costs of the phone too

I did it that way and still spent a bit more on health but it is closer if you include monthly bill.

[anneboleyn]

42. A bit more?!! Our phones PLUS monthly cost is less than 1/4 of our "excellent employer" insurance

And I am not even including the costs that would cause our expenditures to skyrocket -- hospital stays, multiple cat scans or mris, etc. Chaffetz's comment is idiotic. The same flippant comment could be made about cars and car payments, housing (find a cheaper place to live!), eating cheaper food, etc etc. It is ignorant drivel, and it is a special kind of cruel nastiness that targets the lower middle class and the poor. Fuck Chaffetz.

[Kingofalldems]

43. What the hell are you talking about, yeoman6987?

There is absolutely no comparison.

[milestogo]

4. I don't have an iPhone or health insurance.

[wildeyed]

7. GOP doesn't care.

You must not have health insurance due to some personal failing.... From the people who have good government healthcare policies AND free smart phones provided by Uncle Sam

As part of the repeal process, they should agree to repeal their own policies and partake of whatever plan they manage to pass. Be that would change their perspective.

[milestogo]

18. They have no empathy.

Obamacare is too expensive for some of us who aren't poor enough to get a subsidy, but not rich enough to make an extra rent or mortgage sized payment every month. It's an imperfect program, but rolling it back will make things more expensive. More people will die.

[Kber]

15. Im sure you could cut something else

Do you really need all that human grade food? I hear cat food is almost the same.

What about rent? Couldn't you sleep in your car?

And do you really need to change into clean undies EVERY day? Just turn them inside out and you save on clothes AND laundry.

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. His existence is a direct result of reacting to us electing a black

president.

His entire purpose in life is to destroy the Obama legacy and kill as many of his voters as he can.

I wish the FUCKING people who vote for him would FUCKING realize that.

Do they hate black Obama so much they will die?

[Kimchijeon]

11. Yup. They dont care or want to admit

that the reason they suddenly dont have certain things like healthcare is due to this.

There is a real disconnect in their heads, they just dont want to admit it.

[Kimchijeon]

8. Probably a few freight cars full

[Cha]

9. I can't afford an Iphone but I do have the Hawaiian

version of Medicaid.

Mahalo, wildeyed and Medicaid

[wildeyed]

13. The trope that poor people are poor due to bad personal choices is galling.

I would trade my iPhone for a policy that didn't have a $7,000 deductible any day. Sadly, that option is not actually on the table.

[Cha]

19. It's insulting and stupid.. and typical of a trump flunkey.

$7000 deductible ouch!

[wildeyed]

24. Luckily, we are mostly not sick.

I try to schedule any big scheduled procedures for right after May 1st when our deductible resets so we have the best shot at actually getting something, anything paid for by the policy

[Cha]

29. Stay well!

I try my best with a healthy diet and exercise.. I was a pre-Michelle advocate



Michelle Obama says, “Let’s Move Nation!”

http://letsmovenation.org/michelle-obama-says-lets-move/

[Rex]

12. Better yet, how many iphones does it take to pay for a broken leg?

Depends on where you end up. From 3.6 to 90.65 iphones. That however is not something they will ever talk about, just the poking at the working class.

Keep poking the hornets nest.

[wildeyed]

14. Good point

[Rex]

17. GOP-M$M won't even discuss things down at the layer it matters in terms of life and death.

They love to pretend we need to charge money for every aspect of our lives, otherwise we become Bolsheviks.

[wildeyed]

21. The problem with the part where you don't even know how much you are paying

for a medication or procedure is a huge failure in the 'free market' system they claim to worship too.

If I call the pharmacy and ask how much a prescription is going to cost, they are not ALLOWED to tell me. I have to do it in person. And it could be a whole range of prices, depending on if my insurance covers it (rarely), what the going rate in my state is at that moment, if there is a manufacturers coupon. It's crazy.

[Rex]

26. Each pill baron with their own little fiefdom.

That is why I like to make the distinction between 'free' and 'fair' markets. Free markets will always benefit capital and fair markets will always benefit labor. Despite their political parties. Regulations work, proven fact. Unions work, proven fact.

The GOP is about to wholesale deregulate 50 years of progress, they will repackage it as Nocare and pretend you should be thankful to live in a country to get THAT.

[wildeyed]

31. Free market is for stuff you want.

Fair market is for stuff you need. Schools and healthcare being at the top of my list.... I had an online discussion on one of my wiggy-conservative state representative's FB pages with his supporters about O-care. I explained how I owned a small business and was charged a much higher rate than government and corporate workers with lower levels of productivity for the same policy because small businesses don't have the benefit of collective bargaining. As a result, we get gouged by insurance companies. Other small business owners told me if I didn't like it, get another job.

Up their taxes a single cent and they scream bloody murder, but big business can rob us blind and crickets....

[Beartracks]

40. Ikr? No one shops for healthcare like shopping for pants.

Or an iPhone.

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[mythology]

46. And that doesn't account for things like if you're in an accident and taken to an out of network

hospital, or if you need a specialized surgery/care. I'm lucky in that my insurance is both good and cheap (full disclosure, I work for my health insurer), but even my doctor told me to not change insurers since other insurance companies tend to fight against covering the surgery I had and I was approved for it in less than 8 business hours.

Additionally while it can be cheaper to get an MRI done at a generic MRI scan place, it's also really convenient to have it done at my doctor's office in that I can make one appointment in one place, not have to worry about the results being sent over, etc. It's a conscious decision I make to do that, knowing that it's financially better to choose otherwise. I'm lucky in that in Massachusetts we have a law requiring your insurance company to price out things like MRIs or X-rays at different locations.

[Doreen]

16. I can buy 23.02 iphones a year.

That is if I understand that that price is per year and not per month.

[ismnotwasm]

20. Husband has multiple sclerosis

So either a shitload or a fuckton.

[shenmue]

22. Hug

[ismnotwasm]

39. Thank you

[wildeyed]

23. The technical term for that

is "metric shit ton"

[ismnotwasm]

38. Pretty much!

[KittyWampus]

25. Before ACA Medicaid Expansion It Was $8000 Yearly. So 11.5 iPhones.

[delisen]

27. iPhone currency when the trump dollar inflates? How many iPhones will an appendectomy cost?

[catrose]

28. At least one every month

And the nice phone people let me pay out one-month-of-insurance phone over 24 months so that it hardly hurts at all. But with insurance, then there's the next month, and the next month, and the next month...

[wildeyed]

32. I don't have a landline anymore.

They have to add that cost back in too, if they want to take my cell phone.

[catrose]

35. True. eom

[Stinky The Clown]

30. 17.27

[central scrutinizer]

33. 14 per week would cover chemo

[anneboleyn]

44. People who have never been ill have NO IDEA how astronomically expensive it is and WITH insurance

A person without insurance will go bankrupt. I have gotten into discussions with people who would go bankrupt in minutes if /when they confront a serious health issue but their ignorance on these matters is stunning (which I suppose is exactly how they get away with this shit as far as gutting healthcare is concerned)

[Sunlei]

34. one 6 yr old iphone + $90 a month over priced AT&T vs $1000 a month 'insurance'

Insurance I've never had to use. It's always been important to me to have insurance "just in case" of sickness or accident

Bad things like cancer, a broken leg, a car accident cost a FORTUNE in USA to treat- *without insurance* I would be broke.

A cheap phone, a basic $25 a month land line would be fine. discount/cheap 'health care' or no insurance is not fine.

[Kaleva]

36. 2.07 for Medicare Part B

[bhikkhu]

41. My iphone cost $55

plus $23 a month for service. No landline, so its a necessary utility if I want to keep a job.

My health insurance is employer sponsored, at $116 a month or so. Probably I'd be screwed if I had to use it, deductibles and so forth, but I've been pretty fortunate healthwise. Regardless, my phone costs aren't much comparatively. I know people who pay much more for both, and people who pay less.

[Blue_true]

45. Six IPhone/Monthly fee Charges. nt

[haele]

47. 16 iPhones.

Give or take one. That's not counting dental and vision, which will account for yet another iPhone.

Haele