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MelissaB

(16,595 posts)
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 12:16 PM Mar 2017

As soon as The Press Secretary admitted Donald Trump got his info from The Justice Dept, he admitted

crime for which Nixon impeached.

Click the tweet to read the thread of what Louise Mensch is saying.




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As soon as The Press Secretary admitted Donald Trump got his info from The Justice Dept, he admitted (Original Post) MelissaB Mar 2017 OP
This sounds about right. I heard of this law violation on the day that it happened. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #1
When did Spicer say that? bunnies Mar 2017 #2
I'm looking for a transcript or video, but Louise Mensch blocked me MelissaB Mar 2017 #5
She blocked you? That's harsh! bunnies Mar 2017 #6
Sure did! MelissaB Mar 2017 #11
do you know why? Was it recently? Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #12
Today MelissaB Mar 2017 #25
Weird! Unless there's real bullying going on, blocking people on twitter is really lame. Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #31
I made a post about how much Trump was an idiot and got blocked by her titaniumsalute Mar 2017 #15
Mensch is a Trumpian, like the Quebec mosque shooter bluedye33139 Mar 2017 #17
That was my thought, too! LOL! MelissaB Mar 2017 #26
I didn't have a photo for awhile titaniumsalute Mar 2017 #33
huh-- I thought she was a never Trumper Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #32
Me too, just now. SmartRat Mar 2017 #22
She blocked me too. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #34
Yes she blocked me too. I think she has an auto-blocking feature on because she keeps getting yodermon Mar 2017 #37
this makes sense Native Mar 2017 #39
kick for visibility triron Mar 2017 #3
What crime? i have been hearing all week that if trump wants to find out the info, jmg257 Mar 2017 #4
As far as I can tell he never said it, or I just haven't found a link corroborating. Earth Bound Misfit Mar 2017 #8
Thanks for that! I'll keep my ears out... jmg257 Mar 2017 #9
Oops I meant to reply to OP but you're welcome Earth Bound Misfit Mar 2017 #10
k and r...nt Stuart G Mar 2017 #7
I'm a bit lost as to what's going on here. xor Mar 2017 #13
I think she's saying it was a crime to tweat about an ongoing investigation MelissaB Mar 2017 #27
Trump committed a couple crimes, actually. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #35
His idiocy has never been a question for me xor Mar 2017 #38
OK - so when did he "admit" that?? jmg257 Mar 2017 #14
I found this story but not sure how clear information is neohippie Mar 2017 #16
Thanks! MelissaB Mar 2017 #24
To mellisa b Louise M blocks people who don't have real pix posted on twitter Thekaspervote Mar 2017 #18
Thanks! MelissaB Mar 2017 #23
Blocking for not having a profile pic is harsh. mchill Mar 2017 #29
I agree. MelissaB Mar 2017 #30
Nixon was never impeached Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #19
I've seen stories saying Sean Spicer said on Monday that they got it from the DOJ More_Cowbell Mar 2017 #20
How shall I impeach thee? Let me count the ways wordpix Mar 2017 #21
Has anyone else being Blocked from Louise Mensch's account for simply tweeting to her? mchill Mar 2017 #28
Oh yeah. Just read upthread. MelissaB Mar 2017 #36

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
1. This sounds about right. I heard of this law violation on the day that it happened.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 12:28 PM
Mar 2017

It's nice to see that it's getting recirculated. Good for Mensch and the rest of us.

Trumpy wrote his own ticket. Now the bright boys in the GOP Congress should continue to look away and not see anything. That's okay, because the longer they play innocent, the more wrath they'll get from a growing percentage of their base. Every once in a while, legitimate news leaks across the cultural/media divide and infiltrates the Fanboy Base. This will be one of those news items because it's direct, one-dimensional, and uses a three-point syllogism. It's like "hungry-food-eat": easy to understand and it's morally clear.

MelissaB

(16,595 posts)
5. I'm looking for a transcript or video, but Louise Mensch blocked me
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:28 PM
Mar 2017

for asking the question.

LOL! I'd say she is a bit touchy and trigger happy with the block button.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
6. She blocked you? That's harsh!
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:31 PM
Mar 2017

I looked for about 20 minutes but couldn't find anything. Thanks for trying to find it.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
31. Weird! Unless there's real bullying going on, blocking people on twitter is really lame.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 05:40 PM
Mar 2017

I've been disappointed to be blocked by a couple of progressive journalists on twitter, when I did some mild criticism of their work.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
17. Mensch is a Trumpian, like the Quebec mosque shooter
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:17 PM
Mar 2017

I don't know why they call it "nationalism" when it is an internationalist global movement.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
33. I didn't have a photo for awhile
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 07:00 PM
Mar 2017

I was new to Twitter. after being called an "egg" a few times (I thought egg head at first) I realized the jargon making fun of my no picture status. So now I have one. She may have kicked me before I had the picture. Oh well.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,143 posts)
34. She blocked me too.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 07:52 PM
Mar 2017

I asked her for a cite on something she reported.

her website can be viewed as long as I am not logged in to Twitter.

Have heard pros and cons about her reporting accuracy.

yodermon

(6,153 posts)
37. Yes she blocked me too. I think she has an auto-blocking feature on because she keeps getting
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 11:55 PM
Mar 2017

swarmed by Russian bots. You have to have a certain number of tweets/followers i think.
Very annoying but I just use a different browser to read her feed. (or log out)

Native

(7,306 posts)
39. this makes sense
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:07 PM
Mar 2017

because I could like her posts and comment regularly until the Russians started harassing her. Next thing I know, I'm blocked - I have little to no activity/followers by choice.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
4. What crime? i have been hearing all week that if trump wants to find out the info,
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:17 PM
Mar 2017

all he has to do is ask.

And from Heat St...

Those documents are usually only available to law enforcement, and while the White House has the authority to request the documents, they typically don’t – largely because the Department of Justice is supposed to be insulated from political pressure to take on, or complete, an investigation.
...
If the White House retrieves the alleged FISA documents, Trump will have the executive option to declassify whatever information remains about the warrants and the ensuing investigation.

https://heatst.com/politics/president-trump-directs-white-house-counsel-to-find-fisa-warrants/

Another question -
So if the Justice Dept gave him the evidence, then he was tapped???


Earth Bound Misfit

(3,570 posts)
8. As far as I can tell he never said it, or I just haven't found a link corroborating.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:38 PM
Mar 2017

Mensch= meh! IMHO... YMMV.

xor

(1,204 posts)
13. I'm a bit lost as to what's going on here.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:07 PM
Mar 2017

Despite being a conservative, this lady isn't a fan of Trump, right? So I'm taking it that she's saying Trump committed the impeachable crime. So is it a crime for the justice department to share such information with the president?

MelissaB

(16,595 posts)
27. I think she's saying it was a crime to tweat about an ongoing investigation
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 04:31 PM
Mar 2017

by the Justice Dept that he is probably involved in.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,143 posts)
35. Trump committed a couple crimes, actually.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 08:05 PM
Mar 2017

1. He first Tweeted that he had "found out" his telephone/wires were tapped.
IF that were the case, and the information was classified, then he gave out classified information, which is a crime.
He cannot UNclassify information without going thru a legal process involving the Justice Dept, FBI, etc. in writing.

His statement about "phone" and "wires" being "tapped" is a reflection of his technical ignorance.
It actually appears now that an email server in the Trump tower was being listened to.
could be anyone's email.

2.Charging an ex-Pres. with a crime ( of illegally wiretapping) is an offense, too, apparently.
In the least, it could result in a personal lawsuit for slander/libel, whichever, but also Trump, as President, is accusing Obama of a crime, since sitting Presidents cannot legally wiretap anyone.

xor

(1,204 posts)
38. His idiocy has never been a question for me
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:33 AM
Mar 2017

So the idea is that if there was an investigation by anyone that it would be considered classified and by discussing it publically he broke the law? Or is it more of an issue that if there was an ongoing investigation into Trump, then Sessions also violated the law by giving Trump details?


Does it sound like maybe someone told Trump he was being monitored, and he jumped off the handle and impulsively lashed out with some invented story about Obama?

Should be interesting to watch play out.

neohippie

(1,258 posts)
16. I found this story but not sure how clear information is
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:16 PM
Mar 2017
http://time.com/4682791/fbi-russia-reince-priebus-andrew-mccabe-justice-rules/

FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe may have violated multiple existing Justice Department rules controlling contacts between the bureau and White House officials when they spoke earlier this month with White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus about their ongoing investigation into Russia’s influence operation against the 2016 U.S. presidential election, according to several former senior Justice Department officials.
The first questionable contact came when McCabe spoke with Priebus for five minutes after a 7:30 a.m. meeting at the White House on Feb. 15 on an unrelated intelligence issue. The day before, the New York Times had reported that Trump’s campaign and other Trump associates had multiple contacts with known agents of Russian intelligence in the year before the election.
At the White House meeting, McCabe told Priebus, ‘I want you to know story in NYT is BS," according to senior Administration officials who briefed reporters on Feb. 24.
Priebus asked McCabe what could be done to push back, saying the White House was “getting crushed” on the story. McCabe demurred, and then later called back to say, “We'd love to help but we can't get into the position of making statements on every story.”
FBI Director James Comey later called Priebus himself and repeated McCabe’s statements about the New York Times story. Comey also said he was unwilling to speak publicly about the piece but agreed to let Priebus cite senior intelligence officials in his pushback, the officials said.


and then further down in story

Matt Miller, a Holder aide, says "that memo directs that contacts between the White House and the Justice Department be funneled through the White House counsel's office to the AG or Deputy Attorney General's office precisely so there can be no inappropriate tampering with investigations. If McCabe and Comey told Priebus about what was happening in an ongoing investigation into the president's associates, they clearly violated that guidance and crossed a major line."
Those limits aren't the only rules Comey and McCabe may have violated. There are also longstanding written controls, based on authority given to the Attorney General under an executive order issued by Ronald Reagan in 1981 and on several statutes, that require the Attorney General’s approval for most contacts between the FBI and the White House regarding foreign intelligence matters that involve domestic political activities.
Those rules say that, “Compromising information concerning domestic officials or political organizations, or information concerning activities of United States persons intended to affect the political process in the United States, may be disseminated to the White House only with the approval of the Attorney General, based on a determination that such dissemination is needed for foreign intelligence purposes, for the purpose of protecting against international terrorism or other threats to the national security, or for the conduct of foreign affairs.”
Neither the Justice Department nor the FBI would comment on whether the Attorney General approved the contacts between the FBI’s leaders and the White House. White House spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters on Feb. 24 that there was a “carve-out” for public affairs communications. The Holder memo does exempt “officials in the communications, public affairs, or press offices of the White House and the Department of Justice from communicating with each other to coordinate efforts.”
But the Holder rules also explicitly say that “pending adversary cases in litigation that may have national security implications” are not exempt from the rules.

Thekaspervote

(35,815 posts)
18. To mellisa b Louise M blocks people who don't have real pix posted on twitter
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:53 PM
Mar 2017

There may be other reasons, if you read her stuff, or even if you don't you can imagine she gets a lot of very hateful stuff. She's been hacked, thrown off newscorp for being tooooo close to the truth. She's not being harsh, just cautious!

MelissaB

(16,595 posts)
23. Thanks!
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 04:27 PM
Mar 2017

That helps explain things, but I was still blocked and I still that it's a little nuts. LOL!

mchill

(1,182 posts)
29. Blocking for not having a profile pic is harsh.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 04:42 PM
Mar 2017

Screw her. Sorry, but anyone can post any picture they want (and do), so that is a meaningless reason. She is losing good customers.

Mr. Ected

(9,713 posts)
19. Nixon was never impeached
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:16 PM
Mar 2017

The House Judiciary Committee recommended Articles of Impeachment, but Nixon resigned prior to the House vote.

More_Cowbell

(2,241 posts)
20. I've seen stories saying Sean Spicer said on Monday that they got it from the DOJ
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:17 PM
Mar 2017

But I can't find them (I only had a minute to look).

As far as I can tell, it's not illegal for the DOJ to share this information with the president. But since no one else is saying it, it appears that Trump revealed information about an ongoing investigation when he tweeted it. That, I assume, is the obstruction of justice that's being talked about.

mchill

(1,182 posts)
28. Has anyone else being Blocked from Louise Mensch's account for simply tweeting to her?
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 04:37 PM
Mar 2017

Has happened to myself and 2 friends.

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