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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs soon as The Press Secretary admitted Donald Trump got his info from The Justice Dept, he admitted
crime for which Nixon impeached.
Click the tweet to read the thread of what Louise Mensch is saying.
Link to tweet
Eyeball_Kid
(7,410 posts)It's nice to see that it's getting recirculated. Good for Mensch and the rest of us.
Trumpy wrote his own ticket. Now the bright boys in the GOP Congress should continue to look away and not see anything. That's okay, because the longer they play innocent, the more wrath they'll get from a growing percentage of their base. Every once in a while, legitimate news leaks across the cultural/media divide and infiltrates the Fanboy Base. This will be one of those news items because it's direct, one-dimensional, and uses a three-point syllogism. It's like "hungry-food-eat": easy to understand and it's morally clear.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)This is news to me.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)for asking the question.
LOL! I'd say she is a bit touchy and trigger happy with the block button.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)I looked for about 20 minutes but couldn't find anything. Thanks for trying to find it.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)when I asked if anyone had a link to a transcript about this post.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)I've been disappointed to be blocked by a couple of progressive journalists on twitter, when I did some mild criticism of their work.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)WTF??
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)I don't know why they call it "nationalism" when it is an internationalist global movement.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)A poster below said she blocks people without a photo pic.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)I was new to Twitter. after being called an "egg" a few times (I thought egg head at first) I realized the jargon making fun of my no picture status. So now I have one. She may have kicked me before I had the picture. Oh well.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)SmartRat
(10 posts)All I did was tweet "thank you." And bam...blocked. Harsh.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I asked her for a cite on something she reported.
her website can be viewed as long as I am not logged in to Twitter.
Have heard pros and cons about her reporting accuracy.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)swarmed by Russian bots. You have to have a certain number of tweets/followers i think.
Very annoying but I just use a different browser to read her feed. (or log out)
Native
(5,935 posts)because I could like her posts and comment regularly until the Russians started harassing her. Next thing I know, I'm blocked - I have little to no activity/followers by choice.
triron
(21,914 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)all he has to do is ask.
And from Heat St...
...
If the White House retrieves the alleged FISA documents, Trump will have the executive option to declassify whatever information remains about the warrants and the ensuing investigation.
https://heatst.com/politics/president-trump-directs-white-house-counsel-to-find-fisa-warrants/
Another question -
So if the Justice Dept gave him the evidence, then he was tapped???
Earth Bound Misfit
(3,553 posts)Mensch= meh! IMHO... YMMV.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Earth Bound Misfit
(3,553 posts)Stuart G
(38,359 posts)xor
(1,204 posts)Despite being a conservative, this lady isn't a fan of Trump, right? So I'm taking it that she's saying Trump committed the impeachable crime. So is it a crime for the justice department to share such information with the president?
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)by the Justice Dept that he is probably involved in.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)1. He first Tweeted that he had "found out" his telephone/wires were tapped.
IF that were the case, and the information was classified, then he gave out classified information, which is a crime.
He cannot UNclassify information without going thru a legal process involving the Justice Dept, FBI, etc. in writing.
His statement about "phone" and "wires" being "tapped" is a reflection of his technical ignorance.
It actually appears now that an email server in the Trump tower was being listened to.
could be anyone's email.
2.Charging an ex-Pres. with a crime ( of illegally wiretapping) is an offense, too, apparently.
In the least, it could result in a personal lawsuit for slander/libel, whichever, but also Trump, as President, is accusing Obama of a crime, since sitting Presidents cannot legally wiretap anyone.
xor
(1,204 posts)So the idea is that if there was an investigation by anyone that it would be considered classified and by discussing it publically he broke the law? Or is it more of an issue that if there was an ongoing investigation into Trump, then Sessions also violated the law by giving Trump details?
Does it sound like maybe someone told Trump he was being monitored, and he jumped off the handle and impulsively lashed out with some invented story about Obama?
Should be interesting to watch play out.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)neohippie
(1,142 posts)FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe may have violated multiple existing Justice Department rules controlling contacts between the bureau and White House officials when they spoke earlier this month with White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus about their ongoing investigation into Russias influence operation against the 2016 U.S. presidential election, according to several former senior Justice Department officials.
The first questionable contact came when McCabe spoke with Priebus for five minutes after a 7:30 a.m. meeting at the White House on Feb. 15 on an unrelated intelligence issue. The day before, the New York Times had reported that Trumps campaign and other Trump associates had multiple contacts with known agents of Russian intelligence in the year before the election.
At the White House meeting, McCabe told Priebus, I want you to know story in NYT is BS," according to senior Administration officials who briefed reporters on Feb. 24.
Priebus asked McCabe what could be done to push back, saying the White House was getting crushed on the story. McCabe demurred, and then later called back to say, We'd love to help but we can't get into the position of making statements on every story.
FBI Director James Comey later called Priebus himself and repeated McCabes statements about the New York Times story. Comey also said he was unwilling to speak publicly about the piece but agreed to let Priebus cite senior intelligence officials in his pushback, the officials said.
and then further down in story
Matt Miller, a Holder aide, says "that memo directs that contacts between the White House and the Justice Department be funneled through the White House counsel's office to the AG or Deputy Attorney General's office precisely so there can be no inappropriate tampering with investigations. If McCabe and Comey told Priebus about what was happening in an ongoing investigation into the president's associates, they clearly violated that guidance and crossed a major line."
Those limits aren't the only rules Comey and McCabe may have violated. There are also longstanding written controls, based on authority given to the Attorney General under an executive order issued by Ronald Reagan in 1981 and on several statutes, that require the Attorney Generals approval for most contacts between the FBI and the White House regarding foreign intelligence matters that involve domestic political activities.
Those rules say that, Compromising information concerning domestic officials or political organizations, or information concerning activities of United States persons intended to affect the political process in the United States, may be disseminated to the White House only with the approval of the Attorney General, based on a determination that such dissemination is needed for foreign intelligence purposes, for the purpose of protecting against international terrorism or other threats to the national security, or for the conduct of foreign affairs.
Neither the Justice Department nor the FBI would comment on whether the Attorney General approved the contacts between the FBIs leaders and the White House. White House spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters on Feb. 24 that there was a carve-out for public affairs communications. The Holder memo does exempt officials in the communications, public affairs, or press offices of the White House and the Department of Justice from communicating with each other to coordinate efforts.
But the Holder rules also explicitly say that pending adversary cases in litigation that may have national security implications are not exempt from the rules.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,605 posts)There may be other reasons, if you read her stuff, or even if you don't you can imagine she gets a lot of very hateful stuff. She's been hacked, thrown off newscorp for being tooooo close to the truth. She's not being harsh, just cautious!
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)That helps explain things, but I was still blocked and I still that it's a little nuts. LOL!
mchill
(1,015 posts)Screw her. Sorry, but anyone can post any picture they want (and do), so that is a meaningless reason. She is losing good customers.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)The House Judiciary Committee recommended Articles of Impeachment, but Nixon resigned prior to the House vote.
More_Cowbell
(2,190 posts)But I can't find them (I only had a minute to look).
As far as I can tell, it's not illegal for the DOJ to share this information with the president. But since no one else is saying it, it appears that Trump revealed information about an ongoing investigation when he tweeted it. That, I assume, is the obstruction of justice that's being talked about.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)mchill
(1,015 posts)Has happened to myself and 2 friends.