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Holy shit, Shep is Not. Playing. Around. It's glorious. (Original Post) kpete Mar 2017 OP
A good man in a bad place... dchill Mar 2017 #1
trumplicans who've been suckered into Comrade Casino's game... Achilleaze Mar 2017 #29
IF you believe 45 and Pence knew nothing Hortensis Mar 2017 #30
Bingo. n/t raven mad Mar 2017 #40
WHOA!!!!!!!!! K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2017 #2
If Shepard Smith is telling this ornotna Mar 2017 #3
That is true. dalton99a Mar 2017 #4
Why is he at Fox anyway? madaboutharry Mar 2017 #5
He's better there. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #12
Ok. madaboutharry Mar 2017 #15
Not that he will last. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #16
I agree.They only get fake news.We have to fix stupid. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #25
Oh man, I'm stealing that. Thanks. n/t reflection Mar 2017 #33
Keep your friends close,........ WinkyDink Mar 2017 #21
I'm giving him points Skittles Mar 2017 #6
Fox viewers need good reporting more than anyone else. Caliman73 Mar 2017 #19
I agree with your assessment Skittles Mar 2017 #24
I wish for a million of these, Caliman73 raven mad Mar 2017 #42
When you lose Fox news. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #7
You did not say that.......... raven mad Mar 2017 #43
;) sheshe2 Mar 2017 #44
Unfortunately, not everyone will listen ificandream Mar 2017 #8
Wow!! WTG Shep! progressoid Mar 2017 #9
The only person there with a soul. nt flying rabbit Mar 2017 #10
Bunch of Trumpsters are trying to get him fired. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2017 #11
Surprisingly lucid for a Fox News reporter. StrictlyRockers Mar 2017 #13
Not sure why they let him report the real news Thekaspervote Mar 2017 #14
"whose voting base is Islamic voters" KittyWampus Mar 2017 #17
That's the "Balanced" part... SticksnStones Mar 2017 #37
it's true though. And it certainly plays to the fear/hate of Shep's audience. Very canny of him. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #38
"Been a lotta lyin'" czarjak Mar 2017 #18
But We Got Greta.... Stallion Mar 2017 #20
But every time I watch her she reports like she should be on fux news. notdarkyet Mar 2017 #22
agree iluvtennis Mar 2017 #23
Greta Van Sewagewoman. Could be a sea change. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #26
I think we need to support every journalists looking out for the underthematrix Mar 2017 #27
THey'll fire him for that, I'm sure. lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #28
I'm guessin' he cleared his reporting views with the brass. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #51
Those of us old enough to remember Soviet times, will recall that the official State media was... NNadir Mar 2017 #31
I don't think that's QUITE true. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #52
I disagree. It is hardly "slanting" right. It is pure and total propaganda, in part by... NNadir Mar 2017 #55
Woa, there, pardner....didn't mean to get you all riled up. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #56
Yousa! Shepherd Smith you go guy! democratisphere Mar 2017 #32
Without the answer to his last question randr Mar 2017 #34
Shep's gone off the reservation before pink-o Mar 2017 #35
Sounds like someone is starting to wake up BSdetect Mar 2017 #36
looks like they are going the "pin it all on Flynn" route. sunonmars Mar 2017 #39
Dude is gonna get fired BainsBane Mar 2017 #41
I dont believe he lied to VP. Pence knew as well as DT. All in cahoots. benld74 Mar 2017 #45
Ya think? mgardener Mar 2017 #46
I hadn't heard Turkey wants the money it paid to Flynn back. On what grounds? Hamlette Mar 2017 #47
was disappointed when the video stopped Dem2 Mar 2017 #48
Your a good man Shep... Puzzler Mar 2017 #49
I wish I had the ability to state things so clearly and succinctly... Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #50
He is useful to them by being their only claim to "balance." elfin Mar 2017 #53
WOW Gothmog Mar 2017 #54

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
29. trumplicans who've been suckered into Comrade Casino's game...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:38 AM
Mar 2017

...need to hear at least one person who isn't afraid to note that the Republican-Russian Emperor is wearing no clothes. And his naked skin is a flabby bag of degenerate, bankrupt, illegal and treasonous morals, ethics and tactics. So in that sense it's good Shep is on Fox (R-propaganda).

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. IF you believe 45 and Pence knew nothing
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:50 AM
Mar 2017

about Flynn's dealings. Mentioning Russia doesn't mean this isn't a deflection away from them. look at Flynn, the guy who did this "before" he joined them and has been fired for "lying" to poor, innocent Pence. Gimme a break.

He would not be even pushing this look-at-Flynn distraction if Fox hadn't decided their audience was questioning the versions they've been pushing. Fox's first concern is audience share, second supporting whoever and whatever Rupert Murdoch says. In both cases, they have to keep "trust" by telling their audience what their investigations tell them their audience wants to hear.

ornotna

(10,800 posts)
3. If Shepard Smith is telling this
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:00 AM
Mar 2017

it can only be a good thing. Maybe some of the Foxholes will brush the cobwebs away from their eyes.

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
5. Why is he at Fox anyway?
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:05 AM
Mar 2017

Ever since he lost his temper in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina telling the idiots back in New York that people were deeply suffering, it has been clear he is in the wrong place.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
12. He's better there.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:39 AM
Mar 2017

Last edited Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:12 PM - Edit history (1)

At least there is a fighting chance those mushrooms might hear some truth.

Mushrooms = kept in the dark and fed shit.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
25. I agree.They only get fake news.We have to fix stupid.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:36 AM
Mar 2017

This may actually give us a chance. Wow, he is speaking truth to power. No pussy footing around, like most of the Dems do. We have some who speak though. I hope he has good body guards. Putie and Donny won't like this, not to mention the RW crazies.

Go, Shep Smith! Music and Sunshine!

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
19. Fox viewers need good reporting more than anyone else.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:24 AM
Mar 2017

All they get all day is shit. If by accident they come across some honest journalism, they will most likely tune it out, but there is a chance that someone might say, "hold on a minute, what is going on here?" and tune in for more straight reporting instead of all the O'Reilly and Hannity bullshit.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
42. I wish for a million of these, Caliman73
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:55 PM
Mar 2017

OH! Great one, saved. The following yell? I have no clue about tags. I only do our University's public news. Not even that is reliable.

ificandream

(9,372 posts)
8. Unfortunately, not everyone will listen
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:30 AM
Mar 2017

Some Foxheads live in their bubble world and don't believe anything outside of it. Even if Shep tells them so. I really do believe Shep is a token reality voice so they can trump up their "fair and balanced" bullshit label. Ya think MSNBC would hire him in an instant?

Thekaspervote

(32,765 posts)
14. Not sure why they let him report the real news
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:45 AM
Mar 2017

Whatever the reason he's a voice in the wilderness of the trumplandiers. Thank you Shep

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
38. it's true though. And it certainly plays to the fear/hate of Shep's audience. Very canny of him.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:26 PM
Mar 2017

LOL!

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
26. Greta Van Sewagewoman. Could be a sea change.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:01 AM
Mar 2017

I hope he stays there, as long as the viewers are watching him. Give them something besides evil, impossible junk, to think about. The viewers are stupid to begin with, and then when they are pummeled with extreme RW propaganda, there is no hope. SS is hope.

On the other hand, if the viewers don't listen, MSNBC should take him. He would be wasted at CNN, lost with their multitudes of panelists. A few of the panelists are very experienced...Bagala, Gergan...but they are given equal equivalence in time to airheads, male or female. You have to watch 20 minutes of Kayleigh types to get to 3 minutes of Gergan. Can't do it. I only watch it if GVSewagewoman is on, and I have just a bit to catch the news.

Fox is becoming better, from a very low bar, and MSNBC is worse, Tweety is losing it. He interrupts his guest, who may have important information for us, and are a hell of a lot more interesting than he is, before they get two words out of their mouths. GV Sewagewoman, oh, just shoot me, if I had to listen to her. RM has Been on a role with the Russian thing, but SS may have outdid her. Not a competition for me. Just speak, and get the truth out there.Joy doesn't get her due. She is good and should replace GVS or Tweety.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
27. I think we need to support every journalists looking out for the
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:31 AM
Mar 2017

American people. I don't watch Fox News but I respect and appreciate Shepard for wearing his journalist hardhat on TrumpRussia. This is beyond serious. We have to remove Trump and all his crazies from office.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
51. I'm guessin' he cleared his reporting views with the brass.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 10:01 PM
Mar 2017

Since he knows the deal at Fox, I'm thinking he cleared it with brass, to be able to go all in on Trump, since he has an opinion show. There's usually an agreement as to what slant a show will have.

NNadir

(33,517 posts)
31. Those of us old enough to remember Soviet times, will recall that the official State media was...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:57 AM
Mar 2017

...a place where one could find out what was actually happening in the Communist party and hence, the government.

Fox News now functions very much like Pravda did in those days; it is almost the official mouthpiece of the Republican Party, just as Pravda was the mouthpiece of the Communist Party.

In my view, there's very little, if any, distinction between both the historical official mouthpiece in Moscow, and the current one in the United States, which is run, interestingly enough, by an Australian, Rupert Murdoch.

No Fox News journalist can say anything without official party approval in my view. This might mean that Trump is losing Party support.

One hopes so. Trump is the most insane Republican in the national leadership ever. That says a lot, since there are few people in the Republican party who have a firm grasp of reality and the magnitude of the problems facing our country and our world.

This strengthens the case that they're going to put Pence in, since he's easier to control. He's no rocket scientist, lacks competence, and he's a very bad example of a human being, but he's at least under some control from the top.

I personally hope this will happen, since the destruction to our country and the world will be much worse with Trump than it would be with Pence.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
52. I don't think that's QUITE true.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 10:06 PM
Mar 2017

I think the network has an official stance, and has decided to slant right, and take its talking points from the GOP. BUT it seems as the network has decided to have a couple of opinion shows where the hosts are allowed to be more moderate or to the left, in the interest of ratings. Since they have a lock on prime time conservative viewers with Hannity, O'Reilly, and I guess others.

Remember they also had Megyn Kelly, who entered a full-out battle with Trump. Rightwingnuts think she was fired, but she wasn't. Her contract was going to be renewed at an INCREASED rate, but she got a plumb contract at...is it NBC?

I think Fox was pleased with the ratings generated by the Kelly-Trump fight. But their main opinion shows remained rightwingnut.

And maybe it is only because it's Trump. But this is great. I had no idea Fox had guys like this on their network.

NNadir

(33,517 posts)
55. I disagree. It is hardly "slanting" right. It is pure and total propaganda, in part by...
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 06:53 AM
Mar 2017

...the people who own the Republican Party lock, stock and barrel.

As marketeers, they've been very successful, the people who own the Republican Party, lock, stock and barrel, by appealing to a class of people for whom they have no sympathy, and whose interests they actually oppose.

Having grown up with a father who had only a fragment of an education and who was in fact, a laborer, I know very well how this works.

We should remember that in the Soviet Union, there were many people who bought Pravda propaganda right up until the last day. They were, in general, not intellectuals.

The first (and probably only) time that the Soviet Union was ruled by a person who actually cared about the "average" citizen, it collapsed.

As we move towards a one party state dominated by lies, fraud, and a savage lust for power for its own sake, we should be terrified if the leaders of the party and the media which shares, provides, and to a large extent actually owns its power, we should hope that these people will forget this.

I doubt they will, at least in my lifetime, which is coming in any case to its conclusion. The Republican Party is near the completion of being stripped of a single person in it who bears a shred of decency.

Propaganda is a very powerful thing. The instantaneous media has made it even more powerful. No monolithic party dedicated not to the interest of the citizens of the country it rules, but only to its own corrupt power for power's sake, can function without that. The brilliant thing about Ruppert Murdoch - brilliant but evil - was to recognize this, and to hoodwink the lower, and frankly simplistically thinking classes into betraying their own interests by the use of continuous distractions from reality.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
56. Woa, there, pardner....didn't mean to get you all riled up.
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 09:04 AM
Mar 2017

It was just a choice of words I used. Yes, I know that Fox has been the mouthpiece of the GOP. I remember the memos that were leaked in which the GOP is giving Fox the talking points for the week.

My point was about Shep, though. They guys with their own shows rarely go off on a tangent, risking their jobs and shows. It's understood from the beginning what the show is going to be, and how the host is going to be. That's all I'm saying.

It's not like once or twice he went off script and said something outrageously rude about one of his far-right fellow hosts of another show, like Hannity. That's what Olbermann did once that got him in trouble...he said "oh, here it comes, get out the buckets" speaking of fellow MSNBC commentator Joe Scarborough, when Scarborough was being brought in by satellite to make some statemetns. Unfortunately for Olbermann, his rude comment was caught by the mike, and Scarborough heard it, too.

Then there was Megyn Kelly, in an all-out battle with Trump. This did not cause her problems with Fox, and in fact, they tried to renew her contract at millions more annually. But she went with another network.

All I'm saying is there are mouthpieces for the GOP, and then there are some who are allowed to go off script, if it's in their contract. That's all I'm saying.

MSNBC for whatever reason, has more liberal hosts of shows than other networks. Yet, it turns its network over to a moderate Republican (w/a weak Democrat sidekick) for several hours every weekday morning. Ratings are ratings.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
32. Yousa! Shepherd Smith you go guy!
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:57 AM
Mar 2017

Even some of the RWers can't stand how corrupt the drumpf administration is.

randr

(12,412 posts)
34. Without the answer to his last question
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 10:39 AM
Mar 2017

We do not know how the Faux team spun this. Or if Shep was merely leading his audience to a fore-drawn conclusion of Murdocks'.

pink-o

(4,056 posts)
35. Shep's gone off the reservation before
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 10:40 AM
Mar 2017

And even w/Ailes at the helm there've been no consequences to his actions. I've always suspected he has blackmail and knows where the bodies are buried.

But truly I've never seen him so unequivocal. Shit is totally getting real!

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
47. I hadn't heard Turkey wants the money it paid to Flynn back. On what grounds?
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 06:27 PM
Mar 2017

musta missed this. Why do they want their money back?

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
48. was disappointed when the video stopped
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 06:33 PM
Mar 2017

It's not often that I say that about Faux rainbow channel.

Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
49. Your a good man Shep...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 09:12 PM
Mar 2017

... and the best place for you is at Fox right now. Spread the word, to those inside the bubble.

-P

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
50. I wish I had the ability to state things so clearly and succinctly...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 09:57 PM
Mar 2017

and get the serious points across like that. He's good. Can't believe he's on FOX????

elfin

(6,262 posts)
53. He is useful to them by being their only claim to "balance."
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 10:14 PM
Mar 2017

They must pay him mega. I would watch him if I ever watched Pox, but I don't, and only see him in clips by others, and impressed by what I see.

He must be lonely in their lounge.

How I wish he would move to CNN, or preferably to kick Greta from MSNBC. Doubt he would go to any other than CNN or ABC, CBS or NBC majors. He is a major talent as far as I can tell.

Then Pox would be without any "real" newsperson.

Kelly never qualified in that regard IMO - just flash with a smattering of smarts.
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