I'm actually going to sell my house and land and move to a blue state

[luvMIdog]

I'm really going to do it. I will have to fix my house up some first ( paint, etc) then I'm selling and buying a travel home on wheels and moving to California. Yep, just sick of Trumpsters

[ProudLib72]

1. I feel ya

I'm in a blue state, and I want to move to CA because it's a deeper shade of blue.

[AJT]

2. We are thinking about moving too.

We're in Madison, which is blue, but so much of Wisconsin is red. Walker makes me sick, but he keeps getting elected. I wonder where in California is still affordable. The less expensive areas are red, just like all rural areas in the country. It really has become a urban vs suburban and rural.

[luvMIdog]

3. That's why I'm going to buy a travel home on wheels

One of my kids lives in California . They have been trying to get me to move there forever. I'm just going to park it in their driveway and live there LOL. It's just me and a tiny dog. It will be fine. Less to clean & I can spend time in their yard. I just don't want to live in the same house.

[AJT]

6. Hmmmmm, good idea, I have a daughter in Tahoe.

[Stonepounder]

17. We had to sell our RV when we retired. Really miss it.

Loved the time we had with it. You can go anywhere, stay as long as you like, there are RV parks everywhere. Check with your kid to make sure you will be allowed to park for a long time in his driveway. Lots of places don't like RV semi-permanently parked. But you can negotiate long-term parking arrangement with most RV parks for much less than the nightly or weekly rate.

[SoCalNative]

54. Just make sure that you know the laws

of the municiaplity where they live. Many do not allow motorhomes to be parked even on private property.

[pinboy3niner]

4. Remember that California has red districts, too

I live in North L.A. County and my Rep. is House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy.

The blue areas are mostly along the coast with the red areas mostly interior and Northern. When you get closer to moving it will be easy to look up a map showing the state's red and blue districts.

[luvMIdog]

5. I would be moving to Simi Valley

[Kablooie]

7. Simi Valley is Reagan country.

The Reagan museum and his burial spot are there.
Also it's the number one place for police to retire.

I live over in La Canada.
It used to be Red but has become predominantly Blue in recent years.
It's Adam Schiff's territory.

[luvMIdog]

8. It can't be worse than this part of Texas LOL

It's the only kid I have that lives outside of Texas , so that's where I need to go.

[Kablooie]

10. It's a nice quiet community there, at least.

[Cha]

12. I thought you were in Michigan..

yeah, Simi Valley is still in California so it should be ok

[jaysunb]

14. Correct

Republicans can only talk a lot here...they have no say so in the things that affect us all. And, if they didn't secretly like it...they'd find Arizona or Texas much more to their liking.

[Cha]

15. I have a sister in San Diego.. I'm so glad she moved there

years ago from Florida. She really needs the help she gets there.

I lived there for 15 years a few years ago.. I miss a lot about Cali!

Mahalo, jay!

[Warpy]

28. I think most of Texas would drive me nuts, too

which is why I kept on going and landed in NM. Cost of living is pretty cheap and our income tax drives away all the riffraff.

I didn't consider California because it shared a big problem with the city I was leaving, Boston: it was just too damned expensive for me to live where any of the good jobs were.

[DFW]

64. Dallas is a nice little island of sanity

So much so, that DeLay took special pains to gerrymander our 13 term rep, Martin Frost, out of a job because he was doing too much good. So instead, our blue part of Dallas was shotgun married to some bible belt country outside town, and now we have Pete Sessions, who is sort of like Louie Gohmert without the speech impediment.

But that doesn't change Dallas, itself.

I love Boston, but it is definitely not the low rent district. We still take our summer vacations on the outer tip of Cape Cod, even though it's a royal pain in the ass to get to from here. If they harass my wife again at immigration, that may come to an end, too (after 33 years in a row of making the trek!). So far, they haven't done that at Logan, only Atlanta, but the way things are going....

[Warpy]

67. P-town and Truro are nice

I lived on the upper Cape, the part that works for a living, for 10 years. I know what you mean about a difficult trek, especially in the summer when it's bumper to bumper for 3 months.

I doubt your wife will be particularly harassed at Logan. The largest group of undocumented workers in Boston are Irish. Second largest are Portuguese speakers from Portugal, Brazil and the Cape Verde Islands.

[DFW]

69. It's not the bumper to bumper part that stresses us out

Just think of the fanatics that drive bumper to bumper from here to Austria, Italy or the Balkans and back during the summer. Bosstown to Truro is three and half hours on a bad day. Our neighbor is from Austria and drives the whole way down there and back. 12 hours each way if he's lucky. The stress is getting over to North America at all. Although there are now nonstops from here (Düsseldorf) to Boston, they don't run on Fridays, and I need to be here right up until Friday morning. So, it's back to changing in Paris or Amsterdam.

There are some normal mortals living on the lower Cape, too. A woman we know inherited a house and some land outside of Wellfleet, grows much of her own food, and works at several jobs during the year. She's a drummer when school's out and teaches during the school year. We met her when was cooking at the Lighthouse in Wellfleet in 1984. Our younger daughter wasn't even born yet.

As for Logan--who knows what orders the CBP guys have been given? My wife left the States before the inauguration last time. Here's hoping Logan is as it was. For the first time in decades, my wife doesn't plan to travel out Massachusetts this trip. I have to make a quick run back to the States in April. I hope things aren't too crazy.

[SoCalNative]

55. But only 23%

of Simi voted for Trump..Hillary got 70% of the vote there.

[Kablooie]

56. So at least they aren't stupid conservatives.

Thoughtful conservatives have a useful part to play in that they can widen discussions of subjects.
I will usually disagree with them but sometimes their views are worth considering.

But they seem to be a dying breed.
The racist, mind dead, knee jerk jerks have taken over the party.

[oasis]

24. A Simi Valley jury acquitted the 4 cops who savagely beat Rodney King. nt

[nbsmom]

40. Nope.

Because the request for change of venue was granted, the jury came from all over Ventura County. The courthouse happened to be in Simi Valley, which is maybe 10 miles from the L.A. County line. Ironically enough, with the move from downtown LA to Simi Valley, the trial ended up being held much closer to where the actual event happened (Lakeview Terrace, in the Northern San Fernando Valley).

I used to live in Simi Valley, and based on my experience when I served on a jury (and had to drive all the way over to the main courthouse in Ventura), I'd say that it's a little more conservative than LA county, but I'd be willing to bet you can pretty much find all types there. (If you had to color code it, I'd put it at a light lilac, along the lines of what you'd get in Vegas.)

[pruple]

38. Simi Valley is nice

I lived there 1999-2002, happiest years of my life. I live in MI now, blue Ann Arbor, but next year I'm going to settle permanently in my snow bird house in the desert in CA. Good luck to you. I'm sure you'll enjoy Simi Valley. Though I detested the man, the Reagan library is a beautiful place and good to visit. It was my polling place when I lived there.

[tinrobot]

43. Good! Simi Valley needs more Democrats.

Welcome to California!

[StrictlyRockers]

45. Ojai is really nice, just on the other side of the hill from Simi.

Somewhat of a hippie town I am told.

[Cha]

9. Good on you, luvMIdog.. life is hard enough

without living with all that oppression on a Fed and state level,

Thank goodness I live in blue state.. I have for the last 3 states.. California and New York.. now Hawaii.

Just hope the fascists don't try to roll over our states.

[Aristus]

11. Good luck in your move.

If California doesn't work out, you will be welcome in Washington State.

I'm a transplant from Texas. This state is wonderful and welcoming. And I can't imagine living anywhere else now...

[Tikki]

18. Make it Western Washington State..Eastern Washington State ...

has some very red areas.

Tikki

[Aristus]

21. That's true...

west of the mountains is your best bet...

[madinmaryland]

60. I spent some a few months in central Wash. St several years back...

Interesting area. Stayed in Wenatchee and worked in Quincy. Quincy is a small town of about 5,000, but has lured several large high tech companies to the town, which has changed the dynamics of the area. They are moving there due to very low cost of electricity created from the Columbia River. I was amazed that all of the little towns will have at least one drive through coffee shop.

[Tikki]

62. I remember the Wenatchee 'witch hunt' false child abuse drama...sure hope it has changed...

there...what an awful time...

I am sure the younger generation has moved on.


Tikki

[Missn-Hitch]

13. Congrats! I second Aristus. Give Washington state a visit if you get a chance. Safe travels.

[Aristus]

23. Thanks for the second!...

[Missn-Hitch]

36. Of course.

Planned for blue state living during GWB. I made it so - in the Evergreen state. Cheers!

[Juliusseizure]

37. Washington means King County

Washington is blue, but almost entirely due to King County where Seattle is located. I live in King County myself. Surrounding counties are mixed. Eastern Washington may as well be Idaho. Unfortunately, it's also the most expensive to live in.

I know it's better than isolatation in a red state, but if I could I'd head north on the I-5 for 3-4 hours and live in Vancouver, BC, at least until Trump is gone.

[Missn-Hitch]

39. True. Lived on the east side for a couple of years.

The goal was the west side and I made it. I am north of King Co and south of Vancouver. Love it!

Urban vs rural - unfortunately. I like both!

[reggaehead]

16. I have a house in Santa Cruz

Thinking of buying a buildable lot on the Smith or Rogue River and building a Yurt

[world wide wally]

19. I live in blue Colorado, but I know what you mean.

This nonsense is nation wide. We are all in trouble.
I am shopping for a new country
What we need is a new world!

[zentrum]

20. Living in a red

...state at this time seems like it would be unbearable.

Hope it all goes well and quickly for you.

[Exultant Democracy]

22. Make the red states living hell, the people with means and intelligence leave

And republicans keep a lock on power. The republicans only had to get into power for a couple of cycles to ruin a few of those rust states to the level where the voters went for a flying turd.

[BainsBane]

25. Research the cost of living

Most people can't afford to buy homes in CA. There are plenty of more affordable blue states out there.

[Crash2Parties]

32. Depends on where you live.

There are still plenty of rural areas in the north state that are blue and affordable. Just...stay to the West of the central valley as a rule of thumb.

[iluvtennis]

26. We Californians welcome you...come on out here. nt

[askyagerz]

27. I moved from southern illinois to Oregon last summer

Best decision I've ever made. It's an amazing feeling to be surrounded by like minded people

[SleeplessinSoCal]

31. Portland is where many SoCal folks are moving. n/t

[Kittycow]

46. Waving from Portland :)

[SleeplessinSoCal]

63. Up from SoCal?

[Kittycow]

65. I'm a native Portlandian but I'm always happy when people move to OR since it's so awesome!

[SleeplessinSoCal]

29. We're trapped in Rohrabacher's district CA 48.

Moved here from NYC in '98. But we couldn't afford it today. Can't really afford to move either. The developers made a project here which has United Republicans and Democrats against them. They don't want affordable housing in this area. But long term residents are very civic minded. I respect the conservatives here for staying engaged in local fights.

Thanks for reminding me to appreciate what we do have - a beautifully cool blue state. 😎

[Bigredhunk]

30. -

Understand.

We live in Iowa, which blows regardless. But it really blows now that it's all red. We always thought about Madison, WI. But Walker has f*cked that state up, esp for teachers. Now we think Twin Cities or Seattle.

It's unreal how quickly these conservative c**ksuckers can mess up cool places.

[still_one]

33. Property values are not cheap in California, make sure you do your homework

[C Moon]

34. It's expensive here. Our place is still underwater from the last GOP-lead-2007 crash.

I don't know how jobs are in your state, but it can be tough in California because there are so many people.
But it certainly is nice living in a solid blue state. I have 100% respect for those on the left who live in red states.

[TeamPooka]

35. Welcome to Cali (soon) but make sure you don't move to one of our solid red areas either.

[sarah FAILIN]

41. Stay and fight

Your vote is useless in Ca since they are already under represented. Stay where you are and try to make a difference. Nothing will ever be accomplished if we all go to CA except the reps will have free reign to do whatever they want.

[salster]

42. Any part of California is better than a blue spot in a red state.

Come join us in So. Cal. Remember that moving to a red county in CA, you are still protected by state laws and you will be able to turn those red counties in our state blue by helping to slowly take over more House seats. One seat at a time.

[Polly Hennessey]

53. I live in a red part of Northern California and

love it 😍. I'm near Placerville.

[caroldansen]

44. Good for you. California is solid blue. Its nice to be with your own kind!

[SoCalDem]

47. Our house is going on the market in a month or so..

Fully rehabbed..new kitchen..newer roof ..no-water "lawn"...

It's in Moreno Valley (near Riverside)..

pm me

[WiffenPoof]

48. We will welcome...

...with open arms.

[GWC58]

49. For better, or worse

I have no choice but to stay in "kinda" Blue Maryland. Republicans are doing everything they can to try and turn Maryland red. If the day ever comes where the legislature flips to red this state will be truly screwed. Howeve, I will say Rethugs are making it easy to come out to vote against them. The district I'm in keeps, for some reason, electing Andy Harris. He's a TURD!! 👺

[GulfCoast66]

50. Good luck

But I am staying in Florida and working to change it back to blue.

[riversedge]

51. I am happy for you.

[uncle ray]

52. this is part of why we are losing.

we don't need the blue states to be bluer, we need to turn the purple states blue again, we need red states to turn purple. we need gerrymandered red house districts turned purple. our and our children's lives will be better if more of us tolerate the relatively temporary inconvenience of living next door to a republican. if you feel you must move out of a very red area, consider a purple area and help make it solid blue.

[AwakeAtLast]

57. I have lived in Red Indiana for 25 years

It has been tough, demoralizing and downright depressing. As it turned purple during Obama's terms, the grip of White Supremacy tightened.

I am moving back to Illinois where I grew up. It is someone else's turn.

[Hortensis]

59. Very true. I sympathize, even share, the desire to

return to a blue state, but that would benefit us at the expense of our current state. One could, however, potentially be of more benefit and cut the difference by moving to a swing district in a swing state. Not incidentally, liberal districts in liberal states are almost uniformly distinctly expensive. And we're at a "downsizing," limited income period of life. Swing could be doable.

Oh well, I would grab my husband and do at least that anyway if we were free, which we are not. Strangely enough, both our California-raised children married southerners and ended up living and raising their families in the south. And we followed. Happy to say at least all the grandchildren inherited good, intelligent minds and liberal personalities. Can't leave them.

[SMC22307]

61. Good point! We're all crammed along the coasts...

and little oases in between... we need to spread out. We need to win back the electoral votes of PA, MI and WI, and since Drumpf won PA by a measly .73%, it wouldn't take much. Young people are pouring into trendy cities.... I'd like to see some former *Shitburgs* (as one DUer so lovingly referred to dying Rust Belt towns) turn into those go-to cities.

[AwakeAtLast]

58. We are in the process

If you read my history, you will find it has been in the works for awhile. Little did we know it was going to be so advantageous. Should be moving by August 1st. The stock market has to hold on so I don't lose on my 401K, which will be funding most of this.

[yuiyoshida]

66. By the way those of you planning on coming to California

beware prices are always higher here. Grocery, probably gas as well. Rents and even buying a house is expensive, and don't expect Florida like weather all over the state. Because I used to work at Fishemen's Wharf I can't tell you how many stories I have heard how families visiting ended up bringing summer clothes and having to have bought a bunch of sweat tops to stay warm. In the Bay Area especially in the city, we get a lot of this .. All during the summer, fog!

[Tiggeroshii]

68. 6th largest economy in the world.

More people than Canada. Good choice