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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMysterious Russian, and Trump, related deaths are really piling up
I'm sure many have seen most of this but I think it's worth repeating. Seven, count 'em seven, Russian high ranking officials have died starting on election day. Plus another Ukranian businessmen with ties to Trump and Russia for good measure. The list:
1. November 8, 2016: Sergei Krivov, age 63, believed to be the Consulate Duty Commander, died at Russian consulate in New York. After initial reports suggested trauma, police deemed he died of natural causes.
2. December 19, 2016: Andrei Karlov, age 62, Russian Ambassador to Turkey shot publicly in Ankara. It is believed he was assassinated in protest of Russia's involvement in Syria.
3. December 19, 2016: Peter Polshikov, age 56, senior figure in the Latin American department of the Russian foreign ministry, was shot in the head in his apartment in Moscow.
4. December 26, 2016: Oleg Erovinkin, age 61, was not a diplomat but was a former KGB/FSB general, a current Top Rosneft executive, former deputy head of personnel for the protection of state secrets under Yeltsin, and alleged information source of Rosneft kickbacks in the Donald TrumpRussia dossier. He was found dead in the back seat of his car in Moscow and the cause of death is unknown.
5. January 9, 2017: Andrey Malanin, age 55, head of the Consular Department at Russia's embassy in Greece, was found dead at his apartment in Athens. He reportedly died of natural causes.
6. January 27, 2017: Alexander Kadakin, age 67, Russian Ambassador to India died reportedly of heart failure in New Delhi.
7. Feburary 26, 2017: Vitaly Churkin, age 64, Russian Ambassador to the United Nations for over a decade died also reportedly of heart failure the day before his birthday in New York.
8. March 2, 2017: Alex Oronov, age 69, neither a Russian nor a diplomat but he bears mentioning. He was a native Ukranian, naturalized American millionaire and had family ties (father of an in-law) to Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen. Reports are circulating he set up a secret with Russian officials regarding Crimea. I have not found any reports on where or how he died.
Links:
Axios: Russian diplomats keep dying unexpectedly
Two cases that are a little clearer: In 2006, former KGB officer and whistleblower Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned with radioactive polonium. Six years later, whistleblower Alexander Perepilichny died from a toxin while jogging in England, per the NYT report.
Crooks and Liars: EIGHTH Russian Connected To Trump Found Dead
GQ: In the Last Six Months, a Number of Russian Officials Have Reportedly Died Unexpectedly
The Independent: Unexpected deaths of six Russian diplomats in four months triggers conspiracy theories
It was initially reported that Mr Churkin may have suffered a heart attack, but following an autopsy medical examiners said the death required further study.
Media company Axios note that not only is Mr Churkins death unexplained, but it is also remarkably similar to the deaths of Russias Ambassador to India on 27 January, the countrys consul in Athens on 9 January, and a Russian diplomat in New York on US election day, 8 November.
The three other deaths were all also labelled heart attacks or the result of brief illnesses.
The Independent: Ukranian businessman with links to Donald Trump and Russia dies in unexplained circumstances
The peace plan meeting brought together Mr Artemenko, Mr Cohen and Felix Sater, an American-Russian long-time business associate of Mr Trump who is reported to have ties to the Russian mafia.
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The [Facebook] post, written in Russian, translates loosely: Yes, Im guilty... Alex Oronov, my partner, my friend, my mentor, Alex was a family member of Michael Cohen. And he organised all kinds of stuff, including an introduction and a meeting for me with Michael Cohen.
It adds: Unfortunately, his heart could not endure it. He died... Friend, your death will not have been in vain, nor will the deaths of tens of thousands of Ukranians and Russians, Alex Oronov, during this wild, undeclared war! Rest in peace and forgive me if you can, as difficult as that may be!
Jalopnik: How Russia's Critics Keep Ending Up Dead (Or Almost Dead)
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Though there is a difference between the U.S. and Russia. Where Americans may feel despair in their justice system, many Russians have simply given up. As flawed as Americas justice system is, it is nowhere near as bad as the one Russians have to endure. America has its own issues with unfair court systems and police brutalitylook at the Black Lives Matter movement and other protests that have sprung up in recent years attempting to address this very problembut Americans do believe the process, flaws and all, can work for them if they force it to. In Russia, not so much.
We also have to keep in mind that political opposition here in the U.S wont get you jailed and killed. In Russia, it is sadly common. There is nothing commonplace about top political leadership being murdered just blocks from the White House. The U.S. may not be perfect, but its civil society is much more intact than Russias by any measureand Russias is so damaged that we may never see an end to the killings.
Mic: At least 7 Russian officials have turned up dead since Election Day. Here's what we know.
In December, Petr Polshikov, a senior Russian diplomat who served as the chief adviser to the Latin American department at the ministry, was found dead in his Moscow home with a bullet wound in his head. Hours later, Andrei Karlov, Russia's ambassador to Turkey, was assassinated at an Ankara, Turkey, art gallery by a Turkish police officer, apparently in response to Russia's involvement in Syria. There is no evidence that the two shootings were related, according to the Independent.
NBC News: It's Dangerous To Be A Russian Official These Days
Botany
(70,501 posts)March 2, 2017: Alex Oronov, age 69, neither a Russian nor a diplomat but he bears mentioning. He was a native Ukranian, naturalized American millionaire and had family ties (father of an in-law) to Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen. Reports are circulating he set up a secret with Russian officials regarding Crimea. I have not found any reports on when or how he died.
Norbert9
(494 posts)Fixed it.
Botany
(70,501 posts)That a person linked to Trump's lawyer got whacked.
And to think of all the crap about "crooked Hillary."
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)claiming diplomatic immunity"
which does not apply to dead people
and would apply only if revealing his cause of death would implicate him in a crime in process.
Link to tweet
Botany
(70,501 posts)But what about HRC's emails?
This was a coup run by Putin.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)politicat
(9,808 posts)SARS Got the CDC's interest with fewer deaths and illnesses.
Botany
(70,501 posts)I am stealing that line.
Response to politicat (Reply #5)
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NewRedDawn
(790 posts)settling family business.