I keep wondering why the US doesn't have the smart people like Russia does so we

[Maraya1969]

can hack them back. Or hack the Republicans. Why are the Democratic computer hackers so inferior compared to Russian computer hackers? And then I just thought.

It is not the ability of the computer hackers.

It is who is giving the computer hackers the information they need in order to hack what they want.

Can someone really hack into a government's website just by using another computer? I don't think so. If that were true all governments would know all things about all other governments.

It is all about people. They have low people in low places giving them all the information they want.

Maybe getting dirt on sleazy politicians in hotel rooms really is the way to topple a foreign a government.



Maybe we should do like them and find more dirt about Republican politicians and rather than just print it we should use it to control their sleazy asses

Just like Putin does.

I am certain there is not a lack of dirt.

[LonePirate]

1. We invest our military funds in planes, ships and tanks. Russia invests in hackers.

[sarah FAILIN]

2. This.

The new wars are being fought with keyboards and we are woefully under trained and unprepared. A kid with a keyboard can shut down a city these days. Go after the phone systems, take out the electrical grid. We are lost.

[Maraya1969]

5. Yea so why haven't cities been knocked down ?

If kids could do it they would do it. We all know that.

[sarah FAILIN]

13. Morals? Not thinking of that much mischief as a fun thing to do? Not getting paid?

If you're all using the same wi-fi system my son can take over computer while you're using it. He is just a kid in high school that has never been involved with real hackers so think what someone with experience and resources can do.

[Maraya1969]

3. Do you really think they are that much better than us on a damn computer?

[LonePirate]

8. I don't know about better but I definitely think we are vastly out numbered.

[dawg]

4. Oh, we could probably hack them pretty easy but what good would it do?

It's not like we could mess up their democracy ... they don't have one.

They don't have a free press that would publicize the embarrassing findings.

No Russian has a risotto recipe even half as good as Mr. Podesta's.

So why bother?

(Except to knock down their fucking power grid for a day or two maybe!)

[Maraya1969]

6. Why hasn't someone hacked in the IRS and gotten Trump's tax returns?

[dawg]

7. Don't want to go to jail?

Plus, the IRS servers look like this:

[xor]

12. Then focus moves away from Donald Trump and toward the evil liiiberal hackers

and perhaps gives them an excuse to create some creepy version of internet martial law.

[TheFrenchRazor]

19. our democracy could depend on us hacking the next election; just sayin... nt

[xor]

9. Ahh but we do.

Those dumps recently have evidence that there is fair amount that is done. There was all that whole stuxnet thing. Perhaps it's not so much that Russians are better, but rather they are more willing to use their knowledge for propaganda purposes. If you're in someone's network, then it might make more sense to not do things that give away your hand.

[Generic Brad]

10. How do you shame the shameless?

You can't.

[raging moderate]

11. Or get the info from the RNC hacking.

Maybe we could hack the Russians and get the ALL info THEY got when they hacked the RNC.

[LeftInTX]

14. Russia's got Wikileaks

[ansible]

15. It's not so much the ability of russian hackers but the tech stupidity of people here in the US

When you have idiots in power who get easily fooled by phishing emails and still use public email services like AOL, it doesn't take a lot of effort to get very sensitive, damaging data.

[TheFrenchRazor]

18. also their willingness to believe that voting machines can't be hacked; because *they* couldn't hack

hack a voting machine, they assume that nobody else could.

[asiliveandbreathe]

16. I wonder where ANONYMOUS is....eom

[TheFrenchRazor]

17. fact is, conservatives are much more willing to play dirty; the end justifies the means, etc. nt