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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI was once a full-blown, untreated alcoholic.
After 15 years sober, I can now look back at those years with some perspective.
I see similarities with my thoughts/behaviors back then and the mindset of trump supporters now.
During the years of insanity I did not, in fact could not, see my own behavior. Any time I was challenged or allowed myself to consider my thinking/behavior as abnormal, the walls of fear-generated delusion, denial, rationalization - and a myriad of other mental protective mechanisms - would present themselves and allow me to justify and continue my behavior.
trumpers suffer from the same underlying psychosis... They are addicted to chaos and anger (i.e., fear). Witness the popularity of irrational fear-perpetuating faux news, right-wing talk radio, love of authoritarianism, etc.... Fear-generated delusion, pride and denial warp their sense of reality. This is their psychosis.
I was once a social worker working with addicted clients. I was able to lay the tools of recovery at the feet of the afflicted. They rarely picked them up. Many died because they did not, could not, see their thinking/behavior as abnormal. Same with trumpers... they cannot see their behavior as you and I do.
And they view us the same way. Perhaps they are right. Perhaps we are warped to some degree, too. I am sure some of the irrational, fear-driven thought processes guide our thinking... After all, we are human and not immune. But I will stick with humility and compassion towards others - whether they "deserve" it or not - as my guideposts... warped or not.
caroldansen
(725 posts)Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)he/she chooses compassion over hate personally.
JDC
(10,127 posts)They caused themselves and those around them. Saying to themselves "it wasn't that bad, maybe I am making to much out of this" only to do it again and again and wonder how, in complete disbelief, they got into this position again.
Been there.
mopinko
(70,103 posts)we know there is a huge opioid addiction problem in MUCH of drumph territory.
PoorMonger
(844 posts)This is an interesting perspective to bring to the clearly toxic thinking that brings about Trumpism and just how dug in they are. You mention your social work as not reaching the vast majority of those addicted people - but what would you say the rate of recovery was? Less than one in ten?
I keep telling myself that even though Trump's fanbase is not budging for anything - evidenced by the terrible campaign. But we only really need about 10% of them to wake up and he's toast. Perhaps TrumpCare will be that impetus as it will hit these people in their wallets and in their real lives in a tangible way even they can grasp.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)But some, including myself, did begin to recover when catastrophe loomed.
I believe your 10% number of those who may awaken is valid. Let us hope.
And welcome to DU.
PsychoBabble
(837 posts)KT2000
(20,577 posts)is what they are addicted to - they get it from sharing anger and hate.
Some adrenaline junkies do risky sports and others refuel themselves with hate through the various media - continuously. I believe RW media knows this and that is what they have been trading on all these years.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,620 posts)I am glad you recovered, and that you're here with us.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)Glad to be here.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Bless Your Heart.
rug
(82,333 posts)Ligyron
(7,632 posts)With alcohol abuse, the friends and family will usually try to intervene once the behavior affects them enough and becomes destructive. With The Trump crowd, almost everyone they know are enablers and drinking from the same bottle.
The Big Ragu
(75 posts)and its associated behaviors are consistent with mental illness.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)democrank
(11,094 posts)I continue to believe some people want to....and do....change.
safeinOhio
(32,677 posts)I think they call it.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)laziness, dogma, maybe a reliance on good-sounding bumpersticker aphorisms as opposed to solid, evidence-based reasoning.
I think it's more koolaid drinking than alcohol.