Paul Ryan: "If you're not covered under Trumpcare, it's because you decided to be not."

[DetlefK]

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/12/1642661/-Paul-Ryan-can-t-say-how-many-millions-will-lose-health-coverage-under-his-plan-It-s-up-to-people#read-more

Asked in an interview with CBS’ “Face the Nation” approximately how many people will lose coverage if the American Health Care Act is passed, Ryan replied: “I can’t answer that question. It’s up to people.”

Which people? All the people. What he means is that after Republicans slash subsidies to every American except the rich ones, many people will find themselves unable to pay for that insurance, will therefore lose it, and will go without healthcare. Paul Ryan considers this "freedom", because Paul Ryan is at best an idiot and at worst a sociopath.

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“The one thing I’m certain will happen is CBO will say, ‘Well, gosh. Not as many people will get coverage,’” he said. “You know why? Because this isn’t a government mandate. This is not the government that makes you buy what we say you should buy and therefore the government thinks you’re all going to buy it.”

[pinboy3niner]

1. To be not, or to not to be not, that is the question

[KingCharlemagne]

7. Brilliant bon mot! - nt

[Eyeball_Kid]

2. There are countless retorts to Dr. Death's quote, all of them ridiculously easy to manufacture.

What's amazing is that Ryan apparently thinks that his Trumpcare quote is the gold standard. It's beyond reproach.

Paul thinks he's so much a mesmerizing and supreme salesman that he can sell you the bridge in your mouth and then charge you a toll to use it.

Every pitch is his own version of a tour de force. He can bowl you over with his smiling blitzkrieg pitch.

[gratuitous]

20. If they say "freedom" and "choice" enough, their dumbass followers will believe them

You weren't a murder victim; you just chose to stop living. We shouldn't blame that maniac with a gun for what you freely chose to do.

[Maeve]

3. I can barely afford insurance now

We had to go several years without--self-employed, insurance too damned expensive for over 50's, not to Medicare age yet. Now he wants to yank the rug out from under us again.

I do not have the words. Lots of words, but none bad enough for him.

[FakeNoose]

4. Rebuttal: Health Bill a Bitter Pill for Older Americans - AARP

According to a recent survey, American families are more worried than ever about being able to pay their medical bills. And rightly so. Unfortunately, a bill now working its way through the U.S. House of Representatives would make health care even less affordable and less secure for millions for Americans. AARP opposes the bill — called the American Health Care Act — because it would hike premiums for older Americans, weaken Medicare and put at risk the 17.4 million low-income seniors and people with disabilities who rely on Medicaid. At the same time, it is a bonanza for insurance and drug companies.

In effect, the bill imposes an “age tax” on people between the ages of 50 and 64 who buy health insurance on their own. It lifts limits on how much more insurance companies can charge older Americans while providing reduced tax credits that don’t take into account the fast-rising costs of coverage. This double whammy would have a devastating effect on older Americans whose budgets are already stretched to the limit.

Here are a few examples from an AARP Public Policy Institute analysis: A 55-year-old earning $25,000 a year could see premiums go up $3,600; a 64-year-old earning $25,000 a year would pay $7,000 more in premiums, while someone the same age earning $15,000 a year could see insurance premiums go up as much as $8,400. These are increases the American people simply can’t afford. Higher premiums are bad news for consumers and great news for insurance companies.

The news for consumers isn’t much better when it comes to Medicare, the bedrock of health security for all Americans 65 and older. Today, the Medicare Trust Fund is projected to have enough money to pay 100 percent of benefits through 2028. Under the House bill, that timeline is shortened by up to four years, leaving the door open for future benefit cuts and the prospect of turning Medicare into a voucher system. Vouchers (which proponents call “premium support”) would dramatically increase health care costs and risks for current and future retirees.

The bill would also fundamentally change Medicaid — a vital lifeline that covers health care and long-term care for millions of Americans. The changes mandated by the American Health Care Act would shift the costs of providing care onto states and, in the long run, lead to cuts to critical services that allow individuals to live independently in their homes and communities.

So, who benefits from the American Health Care Act? Drug companies are a big winner. The bill gives a big tax break to these companies and asks nothing in return. There are no provisions to address the skyrocketing cost of prescription drugs. In fact, there’s nothing in the bill that would control the costs of medical care at all.

Our current health care system certainly isn’t perfect. There is a lot of room for improvement, and AARP stands ready to work with both parties on legislation that put Americans’ health care first. Unfortunately, that’s not what the American Health Care Act does. We cannot support policies that make health care less affordable and less secure for the millions of Americans that we represent.

Link: http://www.aarp.org/politics-society/advocacy/info-2017/health-bill-a-bitter-pill-for-older-americans.html?intcmp=HEA-MED-BB-FLXSLDR-SLIDE7-RL1

[oasis]

12. Ryan, Chaffetz, Nunes, Pence are a bunch of spineless puppets. nt

[WinkyDink]

13. Should be: "An UNAFFORDABLE Bitter Pill......."

[dawg]

5. Exactly!

I will never, for the life of me, understand why people choose to work jobs that pay less than $100,000 a year, even though jobs that pay more than $100,000 a year exist. Just lazy, I guess.

People should simply choose to pay for their own health care. If they choose to be poor instead, well it's their own damn fault.



(It is such a sad reflection on our society that I had to add the sarcasm thingy. But I *know* that some would take me seriously otherwise.)

[subterranean]

6. That's easy for him to say.

He and his fellow members of Congress will get comprehensive insurance, mostly paid for by we the taxpayers.

I think members of Congress who vote for this bill should only be allowed to buy insurance plans on the individual market with deductibles of $4,000 or more. That's the only choice many of us will have if Lyin' Ryan has his way, except the average American makes about 1/5 of his Congressional salary.

[uponit7771]

8. What a heart less bastard... Ryan is the type to betray his own country ... he has no honor

[angrychair]

9. Got it

Government doesnt want to tell people to get coverage because that is to much interference but it is more than happy to tell women what coverage they are "allowed" to have.

To tell people when and how they use marijuana but allow people to drink alcohol as much as they want.


They don't mind telling us how to live any other time how is this so different?

[Initech]

10. Shove that policy up your ass, Ryan.

[mcar]

11. I do not have words to describe

how much I detest that smarmy jackal.

[WinkyDink]

15. Justice would be Ryan terribly, terribly ill, but without insurance. Maybe going blind, too, like

my aunt.

[mcar]

18. Yes

I really want him to suffer. And I hate feeling that but there it is.

[WinkyDink]

19. Exactly. He makes us all black-hearted...about HIM.

[WinkyDink]

14. You can see how Ryan, if this passes, will go full-speed ahead to Medicare and S.S.

[smirkymonkey]

16. He is such a disgusting piece of shit.

I can't even say what I would like to happen to that miserable cretin.

[Blue_true]

17. And people that vote republican will buy it, because to them

nothing government touches work, even though they have government working all around them every second of their lives. The idea that government don't work gets reinforced by their local and state politicians in red states.

[crazycatlady]

21. a progressive group needs to be in his district

And make a few ads with his constituents. Flood the airwaves

[bdamomma]

22. you know what is his home address????

I will be sending him a postcard mail out. You know I hate this SOB, he hates the American people so the feeling is mutual. 24 Million people will not have health insurance this is repigs death sentence to Americans.

Health insurance is a RIGHT.