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shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:41 PM Jun 2012

Found it: By 2014, more people will be eligible for Medicaid

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/timeline/index.html

Increasing Access to Medicaid

Effective January 1, 2014

Americans who earn less than 133% of the poverty level (approximately $14,000 for an individual and $29,000 for a family of four) will be eligible to enroll in Medicaid. States will receive 100% federal funding for the first three years to support this expanded coverage, phasing to 90% federal funding in subsequent years.
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Found it: By 2014, more people will be eligible for Medicaid (Original Post) shcrane71 Jun 2012 OP
Basically, this has huge positive implications Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #1
The real goodies start in 2014... Of course, Massachusetts already shcrane71 Jun 2012 #3
Great find. Thanks! PotatoChip Jun 2012 #2
Not so fast. Part of the SCOTUS ruling was that States could opt out of the additional Medicaid. upaloopa Jun 2012 #4
Isn't if if they choose to opt-out, they must provide a plan that ensures their citizens shcrane71 Jun 2012 #5
Some of that was taken out nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #7
No, that was what the ACA said (opt out only if you have equal/greater plan) but the SC struck that kelly1mm Jun 2012 #8
Question(s).. For *anyone* in the know... PotatoChip Jun 2012 #15
Vermont passed Single Payer in 2011. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #20
This is great news PotatoChip Jun 2012 #26
The Vermont plan doesn't begin until 2017... PoliticAverse Jun 2012 #21
Thank you for the info PoliticAverse. PotatoChip Jun 2012 #27
Yes, and you can bet they will not opt out. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #6
I think you're right. There's going to be too much political pressure to opt-in shcrane71 Jun 2012 #10
Heh. Gov Goodhair will opt out. You can take that to the bank! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #28
That is UNTIL the powerful medical lobby nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #29
This will allow me to retire early in 2014. I will be 43. Already have paid for house/farm kelly1mm Jun 2012 #9
This is the part most affected by the court ruling Recursion Jun 2012 #11
How can anyone vote for Romney, who basically passed this plan for Massachusetts shcrane71 Jun 2012 #12
Romney is out on the stump denouncing the president and the plan. EFerrari Jun 2012 #13
I'm happy that they're calling it Obamacare, though it was Romney's first... shcrane71 Jun 2012 #16
Remember that the opposition's base doesn't give a damn EFerrari Jun 2012 #18
OK, Narrative for Republicans, this will create businesses shcrane71 Jun 2012 #19
This is why the RW doesn't WANT Medicaid. At all. They want these poor to do without healthcare kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #14
I agree, but they're playing with fire there... Health care providers are going to shcrane71 Jun 2012 #17
Excellent site. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #22
Yeah, thank you Obama Administration for the site... shcrane71 Jun 2012 #23
It's a major step in the right direction. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #24
Baby steps. great white snark Jun 2012 #25

Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
1. Basically, this has huge positive implications
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:45 PM
Jun 2012

to the Red poorer states in the Union like New Mexico, Florida, Georgia, etc.

Starting pay for college grads with four year degrees in the south is just above 29k in their respective fields. Most workers that are wage workers in the south hover around the 25k mark, Full time, and half that if part time (very common trend to see wage workers part time at multiple jobs now).



shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
3. The real goodies start in 2014... Of course, Massachusetts already
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:52 PM
Jun 2012

has access to affordable healthcare thanks to the flip/flopper Romeny, who is vowing that the rest of the country doesn't have the same access.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. Not so fast. Part of the SCOTUS ruling was that States could opt out of the additional Medicaid.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:00 PM
Jun 2012

Red states my try to please the tea nuts and opt out thus not increasing the number eligible for Medicaid.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
5. Isn't if if they choose to opt-out, they must provide a plan that ensures their citizens
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:03 PM
Jun 2012

coverage at an equal or greater rate? I know Vermont is opting out to provide a single payer system by 2017.

kelly1mm

(4,734 posts)
8. No, that was what the ACA said (opt out only if you have equal/greater plan) but the SC struck that
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jun 2012

as well as the 133% medicaid provision being mandatory on the states.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
15. Question(s).. For *anyone* in the know...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:02 PM
Jun 2012

First, has Vermont actually passed a Single Payer plan?... As in State House, State Senate, and signed by their Governor? And if so, have there been no challenges either by state referendum, or their state judicial branch of government?

Just wondering, because such a victory should have been huge news. Especially when you consider the fact that other state legislatures have been trying to pass Single Payer legislation since as early as 1998. That I know of... Possibly earlier, in places that I am unaware of. Maybe I just didn't get the memo.

Re: the opt-out option; wouldn't Vermont have to have an actual plan, working and in place, in order to remove themselves from the ACA?

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
20. Vermont passed Single Payer in 2011.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:35 PM
Jun 2012

The opt-out portion of the healthcare law doesn't going into effect until 2017. Go to healthcare.gov and then go to the timeline.

Here's your information:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002874818

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
26. This is great news
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jun 2012

And since the opt-out portion of the law does not go into effect until 2017, it will presumably give Vermont time to get their plan up and running.

Thanks for the info and kudos to Vermont!!! I now vaguely remember some talk of this on DU2, but never did find out the full outcome for whatever reason. This is a big deal! It seems to me that there should have been more coverage in print and network media though. Maybe there was, and I just missed it somehow ?... (I don't get cable news)

My apologies for not getting back to you sooner- shortly after your post to me, we got walloped by mega thunderstorms. Even lost power for a little while.

Wish we could all have Single Payer, but am happy that we got most of the ACA through. It's definitely a very good start!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
6. Yes, and you can bet they will not opt out.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jun 2012

Or if they do, well political hell comes to mind as their costs continue to rise. Hospitals will lobby, to end caring for the very sick in the ER.

By 2014 this will be old nooz.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
29. That is UNTIL the powerful medical lobby
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jun 2012

reminds him of their power... you think the Houston Hospital association, a powerful donor to repub causes, will not lobby for political purity?

kelly1mm

(4,734 posts)
9. This will allow me to retire early in 2014. I will be 43. Already have paid for house/farm
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jun 2012

and no debt. My non-tax deferred investments generate about $17K per year. Wife and I have been thinking of early retirement but the cost of health care was the stumbling block. Since we would qualify for medicaid now at 133% of the poverty line we should be good to go.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. This is the part most affected by the court ruling
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:15 PM
Jun 2012

There's a carrot (90% of the tab) and there was a stick (losing the rest of your Medicaid funding). The carrot is still there but the stick is gone; it's not clear yet what that will mean.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
12. How can anyone vote for Romney, who basically passed this plan for Massachusetts
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:21 PM
Jun 2012

and now vows to repeal it for everyone else. Seriously? WTF?

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
13. Romney is out on the stump denouncing the president and the plan.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:29 PM
Jun 2012

Which is firmly connected to Obama, not Romney, in the minds of the Republican base. That's how.

ETA: As I type this, a "repealitnow.org" commercial is on the GMC channel,

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
16. I'm happy that they're calling it Obamacare, though it was Romney's first...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jun 2012

If Romney repeals it, then he'll be to blame for all the uninsured and deaths, and Obama is the hero.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
18. Remember that the opposition's base doesn't give a damn
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jun 2012

if people are uninsured or if they die. They rationalize it by blaming the victims.

Whenever we come up with a narrative that makes sense, we need to come up with the parallel one that makes sense to them because it's rarely if ever the same one.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
19. OK, Narrative for Republicans, this will create businesses
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:32 PM
Jun 2012

All those Republican couples where one is toiling away at a thankless, low-paying job just for the healthcare days are gone. Quit. Get affordable healthcare and grow your business without the fear of going bankrupt.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
14. This is why the RW doesn't WANT Medicaid. At all. They want these poor to do without healthcare
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:37 PM
Jun 2012

altogether and DIE.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
17. I agree, but they're playing with fire there... Health care providers are going to
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:12 PM
Jun 2012

want that money that's been promised to pay for poor patients.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
23. Yeah, thank you Obama Administration for the site...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:18 PM
Jun 2012

Ok, I have to admit I've been mad, mad, mad at Obama. I wanted Single Payer so badly. I was pissed that I had to wait to 2014 to get the bennies of ACA, but now that I may actually get healthcare in a little over a year, I'm getting giddy. I just have to hold off getting sick til then.

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
25. Baby steps.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:24 PM
Jun 2012

We ALL wanted single pay shcrane71 but if this was defeated the momentum would have taken decades to come back.

You stay well.

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