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Mon Mar 13, 2017, 04:28 PM

Necks in the Noose Exec Order signed today

45/140 pronounced a death sentence on (quite likely) a SIGNIFICANT number of federal workers.

I've watched this before and this will be CHILLING. Federal workers, no matter what and where, will be far more nervous about their positions than they deserve to be.

Ironically, a guy who lives on the property behind mine works for the feds at a "3 Letter Agency". He told me, kinda sheepishly, that he voted for 45/140 because "Hillary might be bad for him because she might cut some jobs from this guy's agency." I wonder how he and his wife (also a 45/140 vote, also a fed) feel about things now. I feel bad for them, actually, as they're good people, great neighbors, and generally caring for those with less.

No link. Live TV.

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Reply Necks in the Noose Exec Order signed today (Original post)
Stinky The Clown Mar 2017 OP
gopiscrap Mar 2017 #1
SammyWinstonJack Mar 2017 #2
LeftofObama Mar 2017 #3
PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #4
Achilleaze Mar 2017 #5
mercuryblues Mar 2017 #6
LOL Lib Mar 2017 #7
marylandblue Mar 2017 #8
Stinky The Clown Mar 2017 #9
Blue_true Mar 2017 #10
Stinky The Clown Mar 2017 #12
D_Master81 Mar 2017 #11
nikibatts Mar 2017 #13
Nevernose Mar 2017 #14

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 04:29 PM

1. fuck them

if you voted for trump you caused the problem...no reap it's results

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 04:33 PM

2. Have to agree, there.

tRump voters.

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 04:37 PM

3. Yep!

No sympathy from me.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 04:46 PM

4. You could tell the neighbor that

he can get one of those mining or manufacturing jobs Trump plans to create.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 04:54 PM

5. I hear republicans are all drooly about coal mining making a big comeback

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 04:57 PM

6. caring for those with less

Except no concern that those who earn less money could afford healthcare when the ACA gets repealed.

Except women's equality

Except the LBGT community whose equal rights are getting legislated away

Except immigrants to this country deport them all and build a wall

Just no. There was enough information out there that benedict Donald is a liar, a cheat, a racist, a sexual assaulter, Ponzi scheme, lawsuits filed by people to get paid, his ties to the alt right, his courting neo Nazi's and so on.

They didn't care. I hope they do lose their jobs. Apparently they have no idea when they are being outright lied to. No deductive reasoning that if trump lied about 1,000 other things, he can't be trusted about anything. But they thought Clinton might do something.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:13 PM

7. What did they expect?

Dolt 45 was clear that he wanted smaller government.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:01 PM

8. Executive Order is just a side show

It just directs agencies to find their own waste and redundancies. So how much do you think they will find on their own?

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:40 PM

9. You're kidding, right?

Look at who the cabinet secretaries are.

I am betting cuts will be deep and wide.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 07:11 PM

10. Many federal workers.

Work in jobs that save the country a lot of money, but it is difficult to put a dollar value on their work. I do industrial cost estimating where it is difficult to determine the dollar impact of events that happen, but where end of line cost/benefits analysis of them happenings is not done, this is commonplace in manufacturing, where things like the cost of labor and parts are known, but the cost of downtime due to not having enough labor and parts is unmeasured. Trump has people tell him how much a federal worker costs, but those people don't have it care about how much not having a federal worker costs. Trump's avid supporters view government workers as leeches that get big salaries (false in most cases) and benefits.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 09:04 PM

12. That's right and that's the nub of this whole thread.

They see the solution as a very simple one. Cut workers and cut programs. Never mind that, just as an example, work still needs to be done and when someone who did the job is cut loose, we pay an outside contractor much more for the same work. Or we just let the job go undone until it is a festering sore that requires a far more costly remedy because it is now an emergency. (see: infrastrucrure)

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 08:51 PM

11. I Never "Feel Bad" for Trump voters

nothing he has done has been surprising. Everything he has done he said he was going to do in the campaign, they just chose to ignore it or remain ignorant. He's the product of the right wing media, everything they've wanted for 20 yrs he says and does. He's cutting our influence around the globe and he's gutting the federal govt. If thats what someone wants then god bless them vote for the guy. But these "independents" that really thought Trump was going to "save them" I think will in the end regret their decision more than had they just had the "evil" Hillary.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 10:41 PM

13. Check out the history. Whenever huge Federal workforce cuts happen the economy tanks all around

 

them. Federal agencies are the economic engine in a lot of states...FL, SC, and some other red states being the exception. Federal workers are consumers and good citizens. Negative, unintended consequences will ensue. Mark my words.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 10:44 PM

14. This EO, and the subsequent cuts

Are where we are well and truly fucked. If anything Trump does ends America as we know it, then short of a nuclear war this is it.

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