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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn MSNBC Chris Hayes right now: Bernie in WV town hall meeting.
They're cheering for Bernie, and I really hope it rots fRump's socks.
Discussing loss of jobs and healthcare.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,782 posts)democrank
(11,112 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)he repeated that after the state delegate on the panel said coal jobs are not coming back, not because of the environment but because of mechanization. Doesn't take many men to operate the machinery, he said. The coal miner continued to defend it and said we should keep mining coal until it is all gone.
Much more interesting show than I expected but not sure there are many Trump supporters there. Either that or they don't know what Trump is proposing for health care.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)What is sickening is that some of them were Democrats but voted for trump and they now realise the coal mines are not coming back and they are fucked. They have lung disease working in the coal mines and the medicare they were promised is not coming through. That is what you get when you vote for a fucking liar. They knew he was lying but they believed a liar.
We all pretty knew that trumps supportes would get fucked first and it is really sad!
lindysalsagal
(20,782 posts)Also: Another guy said, "I think it's surpriseng that a senator for the northeast (crowd snickers and laughs) does a better job taking care of my healthcare than one like Mitch McConnell."
Big applause line.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,782 posts)It's the only way americans catch on.
babylonsister
(171,104 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,782 posts)And that they only disliked the name because they hate obama so much. They really like the care.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)attached to Obama was bad. The Rethugs did that on purpose
Skittles
(153,258 posts)a kennedy
(29,748 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)If they had called it "WhitePeopleCare" , there wouldn't have been this problem
TexasBushwhacker
(20,229 posts)It was the GOP, because they wanted people to hate it. I bet a bunch of the new Medicaid enrollees don't know that was part of the ACA.
ecstatic
(32,770 posts)that they voted for. Hoping against all odds...
Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)They will never get it.
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)what is really happening and how 45 snookered them. If it weren't for Chris, I would have thought this was just another BS campaign rally like 45 goes on.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)with these town halls. Nothing new or profound comes from these town hall meetings he's holding.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)He's engaging with the American people. I know it might be hard to comprehend that as so few do. But it is his job.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)burrowowl
(17,654 posts)calimary
(81,559 posts)From the school boards and city councils and local alderman seats across America all the way up through the House of Reps and Senate to the White House!
The GOP does NOT want to help you.
That's the difference between the GOP and the Dems.
The Dems DO want to help you, and they're okay with using the tools of government to do it - mainly because the kinds of help people really need that they can't deal with on their own - REQUIRES a much larger, more powerful, overarching entity with far more resources.
As for the red team - they're the most likely to throw you to the wolves, because you cost too much. You're little more than an inconvenient truth to them.
They DON'T want to help you. They don't want to and they don't see any reason why they should have to.
They DON'T want to help you.
They DON'T want to help you.
They DON'T want to help you.
Repeat. Because it's necessary.
tirebiter
(2,539 posts)of keeping hope alive.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)Was anyone "awoke"? Was anyone "educated"?
SharonAnn
(13,781 posts)seemed to indicate they'd vote the same again. I think people just don't connect the emotional "high" of voting for a specific candidate with the intellectual understanding of what that person will do or support when in office.
Voting Republican in order to get Democratic policies?? Strange.
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)steeped in rhetoric and old campaign talking points. They need to hear messages that tell them the truth about how they are being used, abused and duped. They need to really learn what fake news is and talking points by GOP are repeated to brain wash them. They need to be led to ask themselves questions that only they can answer like did the ACA help or harm you? Why do you feel that minorities in the inner cities are a threat to you out here in rural areas? Do you have a drug problem and what do you think caused that? Who do you think is behind the availability of drugs in your communities and why? If you have a job, is your workplace safe? Is your salary enough to comfortably feed your families? Do you realize how much it costs for 45 to go to FL every week-end? Do you know how much of your tax dollars is being spent to keep the First Lady in NYC and maintain the WH at the same time? Do you realize that one week of Secret Service security in NYC is more than you can possibly earn in a lifetime? Do you realize how much money the Trump family is making from this Presidency? Then explain more of the lies in detail.
Stop with the campaign rhetoric and begin to talk to these people to stimulate their own thinking. They may need to be led to the water of thought but once there many will drink.
mahina
(17,730 posts)Out and listening to people when the election is over.
For now...
jg10003
(976 posts)Frustration and anger at the system lead them to vote for Trump and against their own interests. Bernie is trying to get them to realize that they will only be helped by progressive ideals. You cannot sway people by insulting them or talking down to them. You convince people by listening to them, empathizing with them, and explaining your position without attacking their beliefs.