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mac56

(17,567 posts)
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:23 PM Mar 2017

Hey, waitaminnit.

Much of the Texas-Mexico border is the Rio Grande River.

How in hell do you build a barrier wall along a river? What happens when it floods? And what side do you pick?


If he builds it on the US side, we lose the river. Will he build it on the Mexico side? Good luck with that. Will he build it right down the middle? Good luck with that.

Fools.

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Hey, waitaminnit. (Original Post) mac56 Mar 2017 OP
Good question. maveric Mar 2017 #1
It's all bullshit... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #2
naw, it is simple Thomas Hurt Mar 2017 #3
Trump loves eminent domain... Else You Are Mad Mar 2017 #4
The callous white wing bigots in his admin might electrify the river. Hoyt Mar 2017 #5
Could have the wall floating on the river on pontoons world wide wally Mar 2017 #6
it'll look just terrific in Big Bend National Park anarch Mar 2017 #7
Heck, much of California and Arizona border with Mexico is rocky cliffs and gorges. haele Mar 2017 #8
IMHO, no wall will ever be built matt819 Mar 2017 #9

maveric

(16,445 posts)
1. Good question.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:26 PM
Mar 2017

This whole wall thing hasnt been thought through well. I see a clusterfuck in the near future.

Wounded Bear

(58,654 posts)
2. It's all bullshit...
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:28 PM
Mar 2017

wherever it makes any sense, there are already walls, fences, etc.

I believe we have a treaty with Mexico about this, too, where it would be illegal to build a wall that would affect the flood zone of the river. Not that Trump gives a shit about treaties or anything.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. naw, it is simple
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:36 PM
Mar 2017

You can't build in the river of course. You can't build on the Mexico side either.

So you seize private property owners land through eminent domain.

Which by the way is one of the biggest bogeymen of the right wing's paranoid fantasy of the over reaching fed gov't.........well except when it is a conservative doing the land grab.

the usual rank hypocrisy coming from the smaller gov't, fiscally responsible, biblically correct, freedom loving GOP.

haele

(12,654 posts)
8. Heck, much of California and Arizona border with Mexico is rocky cliffs and gorges.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:57 PM
Mar 2017

You might be able to put up a chain link fence that's going to be leaning over in a few years, but you can't put up a wall in those areas, with landslides and unstable bedrock.

Or, you go north anywhere from between a mile to 20 miles, and build your wall there - which sucks for Americans - on the outskirts of the American side of many of the small border towns that dot the area. Not to mention the many ranches and government facilities that are along the border there - including parts of the California, Arizona, NM power grids, state irrigation facilities, state and federal parks, major FAA/FCC microwave facilities, Army and Marine Corps labs, training and bombing ranges, etc...
All these things, including parts of State Route 94 in California and a small couple towns across the Southwest, will be on the other side of this proposed border wall, simply because one can't build a 30 ft high, 2 ft wide concrete and razor wire structure with the footing and trenching/drainage requirements just to keep the damn thing standing for more than two years. The weather extremes destroy concrete and rebar structures on a regular basis around here.
Drumpf and his merry band of Nazi cowards are, in effect, ceding land to Mexico. I think I'm going to move up by Blaine; once they think about all the North Africans and SW Asians - Moose-Lambs - that have freedom of movement in Canada, they'll start doing the same at that border.
We're going to end up with a much smaller country in the long run.

Haele

matt819

(10,749 posts)
9. IMHO, no wall will ever be built
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:11 PM
Mar 2017

Which is not to say that no damage will be done.

We've all seen the reports of offers to buy/threats of eminent domain. So people will lose land, one way or the other.

And this regime will spend millions on reports, proposals, maybe even some minor construction work. More immediately, we have a regime that has invited proposals for a multi-billion dollar project with a deadline of April 2017. Unless this is a charade and the ultimate contractor has already been pre-ordained and had access to information from even before the election, no sane company would be able to submit a proposal.

Texans will revolt. Mexicans will revolt. Dems will revolt. And, slowly, a few Republicans will revolt.

In the end, much damage will be caused, much ill will generated, and much money spent, but the only thing we'll see are improvements to current structures and monitoring equipment, and all of that will go to cronies, and, of course, the Buy American dictate will be waived.

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