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Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:13 PM Mar 2017

Poll: how many men have used the word pus*y the way Trump did?

in a discussion with a friend at work I maintained my very feminist husband had never used the word. He laughed at me and said all men use the word when out drinking with their buds.


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Yes, I use the word when I'm out drinking with my male friends.
2 (25%)
Maybe in my youth, when I was drunk, but not since I've grown up.
4 (50%)
I don't think I've ever used the word. Not that way.
2 (25%)
I use it all the time, so what?
0 (0%)
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Poll: how many men have used the word pus*y the way Trump did? (Original Post) Hamlette Mar 2017 OP
You need to be more specific. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #1
Are there non-offensive ways to use those kinds of terms? PJMcK Mar 2017 #2
The word in and of itself is not pejorative. It was how Trump used it. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #4
As I wrote: PJMcK Mar 2017 #5
Folks didn't get hung up on the word. It was how he used it. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #13
Mostly, I agree PJMcK Mar 2017 #16
When I'm having fun with my partner Ezior Mar 2017 #12
You're correct, of course PJMcK Mar 2017 #17
I've heard it used often enough when only men were around Lurks Often Mar 2017 #3
Is the word in and of itself pejorative? Is using the word "dick" or "f--k" in and of itself DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #11
Use the word in context, but not by telling people to go out grab 'em. jmg257 Mar 2017 #6
mrs. unblock prefers i use the c-word; so, go figure. unblock Mar 2017 #7
The thing that bewildered my husband the most lapucelle Mar 2017 #8
I've never heard 'locker room' talk like that Swagman Mar 2017 #9
Then you have lived a sheltered life INdemo Mar 2017 #19
Not myself, no Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #10
I did in high school, but 1984 came and went a long time ago... LanternWaste Mar 2017 #14
This would be an interesting nationwide survey oberliner Mar 2017 #15
Yes. This convo with my coworker happened a couple months ago and I still think about it. Hamlette Mar 2017 #23
Straights use it and the d-work in the passion of making love. Nothing wrong with that. brush Mar 2017 #18
I've never used it in the context of talking about committing sexual assault mythology Mar 2017 #20
I don't think my son or my husband have EVER used that word. It wouldn't occur to them... CTyankee Mar 2017 #21
Not in the grabbing sense crazycatlady Mar 2017 #22

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
1. You need to be more specific.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:15 PM
Mar 2017

Growing up in a working class neighborhood I have been around the proverbial block a time or two and never met a guy who said he grabs women by the hoo-hah without their consent.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
2. Are there non-offensive ways to use those kinds of terms?
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:17 PM
Mar 2017

Is it possible that one could refer to a woman's genitalia using various words BUT be expressing affection, admiration and respect?

I won't bother voting in the poll. Donald Trump is a pig and an idiot.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. Folks didn't get hung up on the word. It was how he used it.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:28 PM
Mar 2017

In any case guys who talk about sex in the company of other guys always seemed a little creepy to me.

Ezior

(505 posts)
12. When I'm having fun with my partner
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:27 PM
Mar 2017

I don't use boring/sterile words like "penis". It's definitely not meant to be offensive though.

I guess it's the same for heterosexual couples? Is "pus*y" really a NEVER EVER USE THAT word? Non-native speaker here...

Obviously, I never use any of these words in the context of "just grab them by …".

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
17. You're correct, of course
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:34 PM
Mar 2017

The context in which Donald Trump used the vernacular word was gross, classless and offensive.

In the heat of a private moment, people can decide for themselves what's acceptable or not.

However, there is one synonym most women don't like too much...

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
3. I've heard it used often enough when only men were around
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:20 PM
Mar 2017

with & without alcohol involved and by a couple of women who knew me well enough to be comfortable using the word around me.

Based on some conversations with a couple of close women friends they say women are just as bad when the men aren't around.

When the opposite gender isn't around men AND women can get rather graphic regarding sex and genitalia

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. Is the word in and of itself pejorative? Is using the word "dick" or "f--k" in and of itself
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:26 PM
Mar 2017

Is the word in and of itself pejorative? Is using the word "dick" or "f--k" in and of itself pejorative? I would argue it is how it's used.

Most of what I initially learned bout sex was from friends. However I once asked my mom what "f--k" meant. My mom was the standard issue mom. She certainly wasn't exceptionally forward thinking when it came to sex. But she explained it as something that could be beautiful.

unblock

(52,208 posts)
7. mrs. unblock prefers i use the c-word; so, go figure.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:23 PM
Mar 2017

outside of private talk with my wife, if the topic comes up at all, i'll use clinical terms.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
8. The thing that bewildered my husband the most
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:24 PM
Mar 2017

was the very expression. He kept asking, "Who says that? How do you do that? What does that even mean?"

For the record, my husband grew up in the very politically incorrect 60's and 70's. He played football, so he's been in plenty of locker rooms, and he spent 28 years in the FDNY in an all male firehouse, so he's no sheltered snowflake.

Swagman

(1,934 posts)
9. I've never heard 'locker room' talk like that
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:24 PM
Mar 2017

in any locker room.
And I'd be offended if I heard such talk.
But then I don't hang around with people who talk like that.
Rich or poor..

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
10. Not myself, no
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:24 PM
Mar 2017

As I'm a female, but I have no qualms calling people "bitch" or "pussy" (I am a pottymouth tsk tsk)

My husband doesn't engage in that kind of talk though, he's not that crass or vulgar. He might talk lewdly though but not like that.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. I did in high school, but 1984 came and went a long time ago...
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:28 PM
Mar 2017

I did in high school, but 1984 came and went a long time ago, and I eventually grew up and and decided to place that type of half-witted, sub-literate vulgarity behind me.

Without asking for a show of hands, I'm pretty certain the guys in my circle of friends made the same choice as I did, as I simply cannot remember the last time any of us used that particular form infantile language, or even attempted to justify its use.

No... not all men use that language, just the weakest among us.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. This would be an interesting nationwide survey
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:29 PM
Mar 2017

I'd be curious to see the results broken down by race, education level, geographic location, etc.

Could be quite illuminating.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
23. Yes. This convo with my coworker happened a couple months ago and I still think about it.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:13 PM
Mar 2017

I'm no Pollyanna and as foul mouthed as they come (I believe every "absolutely" needs a "fuckin'" in the middle for instance) and some days all men are dicks. (sorry, but fuck, could you just listen once in awhile?) Talking about women like trump did, however, is something men in my life don't do.

brush

(53,776 posts)
18. Straights use it and the d-work in the passion of making love. Nothing wrong with that.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 04:17 PM
Mar 2017

How trump trumpeted it out was crass, vulgar and trashy, which also just happens to describe him.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
20. I've never used it in the context of talking about committing sexual assault
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 04:47 PM
Mar 2017

But that's because I've never bragged about (or committed) sexual assault. I don't use the word pussy or bitch as a pejorative or insult either. Partially because it's sexist and partially because if the best insult I could come up with is effectively calling somebody a woman, I'd be embarrassed for myself.

That said I will use the word in a sexual sense in the same way I don't refer to my penis as such.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
22. Not in the grabbing sense
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 06:12 PM
Mar 2017

But every man who has been near my, cat, has used the term. But then again his parts are referred to by a nickname for Richard.

It very well could be a generational thing (I'm 36). FWIW I have met all but one partner at a Democratic event.

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