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Oh. Wow. - Roger Stone contacted Russian hacker Guccifer 2.0 at least 16 times during 2016 election (Original Post) kpete Mar 2017 OP
History will absolve me malaise Mar 2017 #1
You don't say...... Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #2
In a thread today Stone claimed he was targeted by intel agents in car crash brush Mar 2017 #3
Mr. Stone... Zoonart Mar 2017 #4
Speaking of ordering watoos Mar 2017 #9
Heehee! They'll put purple food coloring in it and call it borscht brush Mar 2017 #30
Why in the world would any of them nocalflea Mar 2017 #6
Large sums of money tend to cloud judgement, klook Mar 2017 #7
The fact that they colluded is komprmat in and of itself. nocalflea Mar 2017 #10
these people are the friggin SCUM of the earth. I can't even... Turn CO Blue Mar 2017 #5
COLLUSION X TREASON IMPEACHMENT maxsolomon Mar 2017 #8
Stone may well be Guccifer 2.0. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #11
Now THERE'S an interesting thought. calimary Mar 2017 #21
First you have to believe the guy posing as Guccifer 2.0 is actually the hacker. Until we know L. Coyote Mar 2017 #22
he does and does not. drray23 Mar 2017 #31
LOCK HIM UP onecaliberal Mar 2017 #12
A picture is worth a thousand words - Stone photo alblum womanofthehills Mar 2017 #13
Gawd these fascists are weird. Liberal In Texas Mar 2017 #15
Roger Stone is nuts womanofthehills Mar 2017 #20
Don't kid yourself. Who is Roger Stone, the Long-Time R Dirty-Trickster ......... L. Coyote Mar 2017 #23
This whole mess is so rotten, it stinks! Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #14
Guccifer 2.0 is RIS, probably GRU. roamer65 Mar 2017 #16
I look forward to one evening turning on tv and seeing 60-Minutes (or a similiar show) C Moon Mar 2017 #17
Not likely GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #24
I know. I figure Pence or Ryan (whomever takes his place) will pardon him. nt C Moon Mar 2017 #28
No doubt in my mind Stone was up to dirty tricks DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #18
I would be shocked if he was NOT knee deep in this Cosmocat Mar 2017 #19
That's why Roger had a Twitter meltdown last week. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #25
senate investigation by graham will make hay of all this with stone....and tying it to trump beachbum bob Mar 2017 #26
KNR Lucinda Mar 2017 #27
Isn't this what they used to call the smoking gun? Doodley Mar 2017 #29

brush

(53,776 posts)
3. In a thread today Stone claimed he was targeted by intel agents in car crash
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 04:43 PM
Mar 2017

He'd better look at people from trump/Putin for going after him since it just came out that he was working with Guciffer 2.0.

There are already multiple Russians connected to the election tampering who came up dead.

They won't stop with getting rid of an American who has info that can bring down trump.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
6. Why in the world would any of them
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 05:46 PM
Mar 2017

trust the Putin regime ? Have they not been paying attention ? Is it arrogance ? Ego ?

Obviously , if its kompromat they wouldn't have a choice.

What would it take ? Stone like Trump is not easily embarrassed - no shame . I think alot of the people involved are like that .

Putin certainly has the means to hurt them non-lethally , also.

I would love to know their risk assessment of getting involved with Putin (on an individual basis as well as a group).

Mind boggling !

klook

(12,154 posts)
7. Large sums of money tend to cloud judgement,
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 06:23 PM
Mar 2017

whether greedily seeking it or frantically seeking to avoid losing it.

And I do think there's kompromat involved, so there is also the prospect of loss of personal liberty as well as money.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
10. The fact that they colluded is komprmat in and of itself.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 06:44 PM
Mar 2017

How messed up can your judgment be not to consider that ?

Delusional and stupid - but we already knew that.

(by the way , I will never understand the greed of the super-rich.That mindset eludes me.)

calimary

(81,232 posts)
21. Now THERE'S an interesting thought.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:41 PM
Mar 2017

Only thing that keeps me from jumping on it is - he's an old guy. I think he's even older than I am.

UNLESS he happens to be a computer nerd. Some people are fanatics about it, and active participants in it, until they die of old age. But shit, I'm married to a computer nerd (who's also a little bit older than I am). He's brilliant. But even he can't keep up with all the new everythings either. Some of it, yeah, but not all of it by any means.

Doesn't it take some pretty doggone advanced computer/programming/internet skill to be able to navigate that level of complexity? Or am I demonstrating yet again how technically illiterate I am?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
22. First you have to believe the guy posing as Guccifer 2.0 is actually the hacker. Until we know
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:28 PM
Mar 2017

that with certainty, Guccifer is just the guy who told lies when he popped up. So, do we trust what he said? "Hey I'm a Russian and I'm the hacker." How very convenient for the Trump campaign.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
31. he does and does not.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:27 PM
Mar 2017

If the dnc website was not adequately configured it is not hard for any competent IT person to exploit the vulnerabilities. For example, once you determine which type of web server (which version of the code), which type of backend database , etc.. they are using, it is simple to look up whether or not these have been patched and are secure. Most of the time they are not and you can find scripts (that is, software) or snippets of code that have been written to demonstrate how to do it. You can even hire people to do it for you. So even if Roger Stone was not a computer geek he well could have been coordinating the efforts on behalf of Trump's campaign.

womanofthehills

(8,702 posts)
13. A picture is worth a thousand words - Stone photo alblum
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:04 PM
Mar 2017







Stone's Nixon tattoo




Proof of polonium poisoning: Watoos - too late he got into the soup at Mar-a-Lago.

womanofthehills

(8,702 posts)
20. Roger Stone is nuts
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:39 PM
Mar 2017

besides being sexist and racist. Horrible horrible tweets by Stone. How do these really sick people get any kind of power?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. This whole mess is so rotten, it stinks!
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:16 PM
Mar 2017

They better not get away with it, or America is going shopping for new representatives next time around.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
17. I look forward to one evening turning on tv and seeing 60-Minutes (or a similiar show)
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:24 PM
Mar 2017

interviewing Trump in an orange jump suit: still denying everything; still puckering his lips between lies; still making up ridiculous accusations about Obama—however, his hair would be gray and thinning, and his face would be pale white.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. Not likely
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:53 PM
Mar 2017

If trump thinks it is coming to that trump 1 will take an unplanned fight to Moscow. He can hang out with Snowden.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
18. No doubt in my mind Stone was up to dirty tricks
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:29 PM
Mar 2017

I don't really think Stone was driven by money here. He lives for doing dirty political tricks. It's what he is and what he does. If he could help bring down Hillary Clinton, remember she worked on the Watergate Committee staff when he was a Nixon man, I'm positive he'd do it.

I think the whole Russian interference was a perfect convergence of people doing things for different reasons that meshed in just the right way.

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