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NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:00 AM Mar 2017

How STUPID Can You Be?

I’ve taken some flack here for referring to Republican voters, especially Trump supporters, as being STUPID.

Well, what else do you call people who demonstrate their stupidity at every opportunity? How else do you characterize those who act stupidly, vote stupidly, and continue to support a pResident who plans to make them victims of their own stupidity?

What other category do the stupid fall into – other than the unbelievably, undeniably, STUPID beyond all imagining category?

Watching snippets of Trump’s rally in Nashville tonight is the perfect case in point. People waving “Drain the Swamp” signs – apparently unaware that Trump has stocked his swamp with the monied establishment people he campaigned on ridding the government of.

People wearing Trump hats and T-shirts – all bearing a “Made in China” label – still believing that the man who had those items manufactured offshore is really interested in bring jobs back to the US.

People applauding a so-called president whose ties to their country’s sworn enemy, Russia, are as apparent as they are undeniable.

People cheering the idea that preventing Muslims from entering the country will make them “safe”, while ignoring the fact that there has been ZERO “terrorist” activity from those who have emigrated from the nations Trump is trying to ban.

What we as Democrats are up against is not a matter of having the “wrong message” to appeal to thinking, common-sense voters. We are not up against voters who think our candidates are too establishment, too status-quo, or that we as a party are not offering what Americans want and need.

What we are up against is STUPIDITY – stupidity that is being nurtured by the GOP, promoted by FOX-News, encouraged by on-air RW nutjobs, and validated by fake news outlets like Breitbart.

Do I have the answer as to how to outwit, outplay and outlast the stupidity that’s out there? If I did, I wouldn’t be posting on DU – I’d be too busy collecting my seven-figure consultancy fee from the PTB in our party.

All I know is this: It is stupidity that is our greatest enemy. It is stupidity that causes people to consistently vote against their own interests. It is stupidity that led voters to elect a proven liar to the WH on the basis that he was ”trustworthy”. It is stupidity that causes people to believe that a man who can’t handle an SNL sketch is capable of handling the clear-headed decision-making that being a POTUS demands. It is stupidity that brought millions of hard-working Americans to the polls to vote for a man whose entire life is built on cheating hard-working Americans out of their money.

It is the same kind of stupidity that insists that global climate change is a hoax, that our children should be taught the Bible in place of proven science, and that the only reason Trump’s campaign was communicating with Russians was to swap borscht recipes.

It’s not the heat, people – it’s the STUPIDITY. And ignoring it, denying it, excusing it, or calling it by any other name doesn’t get us anywhere.

It IS what it is – and make no mistake, it IS what we are fighting against.


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How STUPID Can You Be? (Original Post) NanceGreggs Mar 2017 OP
Reagan understood the importance of a stupid citizenry and did all he could pangaia Mar 2017 #1
And vetoed a new Fairness Doctrine three times when it was passed by Congress Warpy Mar 2017 #5
I propose we find some other term other than heartland... pangaia Mar 2017 #17
Well, there's always "the Black Hole" Warpy Mar 2017 #18
he destroyed free junior colleges in Calif as gov Hamlette Mar 2017 #8
A bunch of Gumps sarcasmo Mar 2017 #2
They are irrefutably, irreparably, besottedly stupid. Worse yet, they're PROUD of being stupid. dalton99a Mar 2017 #3
Sad Kick and Rec. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #4
You're not wrong. ffr Mar 2017 #6
They are brainwashed too by watching propaganda news. notdarkyet Mar 2017 #7
Goebbels understood thbobby Mar 2017 #9
I have found that even among progressive liberals PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #10
Expanding comfort zones thbobby Mar 2017 #11
Thank you for saying this in such an intelligen way. world wide wally Mar 2017 #12
Critical thinking. That's the key. What occurred to me recently. Many, many sprinkleeninow Mar 2017 #14
When given complete information, nearly everyone will attempt to do the right thing. PatrickforO Mar 2017 #13
Well I agree with you MFM008 Mar 2017 #15
Roughly 26% of America is barely sentient. Dave Starsky Mar 2017 #16
We Are Seeing The Huge Cost Of Dumb colsohlibgal Mar 2017 #19
more details cynical_idealist Mar 2017 #20
Stupid can't be fixed. kentuck Mar 2017 #21
I've been saying that since the GE started mcar Mar 2017 #22
The Trumpsters are breaking new ground every day. lpbk2713 Mar 2017 #23

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
1. Reagan understood the importance of a stupid citizenry and did all he could
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:06 AM
Mar 2017

to begin the destruction of public school efucation.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
5. And vetoed a new Fairness Doctrine three times when it was passed by Congress
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:34 AM
Mar 2017

thereby opening the door to right wing propaganda and disinformation across all media with absolutely no reason for anyone to tell the American people the truth about anything. Even staid and stodgy broadcast news lies by omission and reports infotainment.

I'm afraid 30+ years of propaganda aimed at both the stupid and the just plain tired working people of this country, especially in the heartland where there are no big newspapers with investigative reporters, have created the idiocracy we see today, the stupid propagandized to the point they don't know which way is up voting for the corrupt who will continue to ensure that ignorance prevails.

This is what the DNC needs to brainstorm doing an end run around. They will never be treated fairly by broadcast media. There is tremendous energy at the grassroots level, people outraged by this bunch in Washington and ready to do anything it takes to get them out.

Something needs to get the two groups together.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. I propose we find some other term other than heartland...
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 10:54 AM
Mar 2017

I'm not sure what yet, but...it sure ain't no heart.

And as well, those same types live everywhere. I am in Up-state NY.. Outside of the cities the situation is the same as in.... maybe we can call it the 'Digestive Tract.'

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
18. Well, there's always "the Black Hole"
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:17 AM
Mar 2017

"Flyover country" seems inadequate because I live in flyover country and the state is blue.

Middle America is also good, as is Muddle America.

And yes, I knew Archie Bunkers and Catholic true believers who gave Southern Baptists a run for the 'assholery in politics' award back in Bsoton, they do exist everywhere. However, in majority progressive areas, they tend to rant a lot less.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
8. he destroyed free junior colleges in Calif as gov
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:19 AM
Mar 2017

it had been the best public education in the world. Gone when he was done.

Asshole.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
6. You're not wrong.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:57 AM
Mar 2017

I think perhaps many might think that your energy might be better utilized if you focused on ways to separate stupid people from their money.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Wanna partner up?

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
9. Goebbels understood
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:23 AM
Mar 2017

..the rank and file are usually much more primitive than we imagine. Propaganda must therefore always be essentially simple and repetitious.

Just one of many ideas from Goebbels that is being used on republicans.

Read Goebbels quotes. He knew how to use lies to instill hatred and prevent people from thinking.

Perhaps we should be relieved that Nazis were persuaded by the same methods that GOP voters are. America is in good hands!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
10. I have found that even among progressive liberals
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:23 AM
Mar 2017

there is often a profound lack of understanding of the larger picture. Most people only focus on a narrow aspect of the world. here's an example: A good friend of mine, an elementary school teacher, a Democrat, a Progressive (in political terms) reads very narrowly. As in she only reads mysteries. Only. Mysteries. I find that when I try to encourage her to read anything else I'm met with a polite stonewall. She may be a bit of an outlier, but probably not as much of one as I wish she were.

Here's me. I read. I read a lot. Both fiction and non fiction. In the first category it would be simpler to tell you what I don't like (romance, westerns, fantasy) than to tell you what I do like (almost everything else). In the nonfiction category almost everything is possible. I'm currently reading Where Nobody Knows Your Name by John Feinstein about life in the minor leagues of baseball. Absolutely fascinating, even though I have NEVER heard of a single person he talks about. Not sure if that's because of my lack of knowledge of baseball in the first place, or if that's endemic to baseball's minor leagues. Shrug. I don't care because this is an amazing book. And I cannot state too strongly how disinterested I am in professional sports to begin with.

Okay, so here's another example. Truevine[/i ], about a pair of African American Albinos who spent most of their lives in the circus in the early 20th century. OMG! An insight into a kind of life totally removed from mine. Or When In French about a woman's connection to the French language because she married a French man.

How about this: The Boys in the Bunkhouse. Some men with intellectual disabilities spent decades in virtual slavery, workinging in a turkey processing plant, housed in a deteriorating former school house in Atalissa, Iowa. How they were finally rescued is the heart of this story.,

My point is that most people truly live in a bubble, and more of us should try a lot hard to get out of that bubble.

Anyone who wants more book recommendations from me should PM me Because, trust me, I can give you very many.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
11. Expanding comfort zones
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:36 AM
Mar 2017

One of the best lessons any parent can teach their children is to make a life habit of expanding their comfort zones.

Don't like Muslims? Make Muslim friends.
Don't like classical music? Listen to Beethoven or Bach.

The list goes on endlessly.

Perhaps this philosophy helps to create liberals. We seek to understand what we do not know.

world wide wally

(21,742 posts)
12. Thank you for saying this in such an intelligen way.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:44 AM
Mar 2017

It is the absolute inability to connect dots. Altogether too many Americans simply do not have critical thinking skills. All they are capable of is following.

sprinkleeninow

(20,246 posts)
14. Critical thinking. That's the key. What occurred to me recently. Many, many
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:36 AM
Mar 2017

on DU possess critical thinking skills and I'm grateful to read, glean and be enlightened on manifold subjects that I knew little or nothing about.

PatrickforO

(14,572 posts)
13. When given complete information, nearly everyone will attempt to do the right thing.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:59 AM
Mar 2017

These people voted stupidly because they have been subjected over three decades to very sophisticated corporate propaganda. This has had the effect the economic royalty in this country wanted - it has dumbed them down.

See, according to this study, http://www.cjr.org/analysis/breitbart-media-trump-harvard-study.php, we lefties will check left wing news sources, AND will go to middle of the road and even right wing sites (just to see what they are saying).

Right wingers, on the other hand, have smaller 'bridge nodes,' which means they won't even look at center type news organizations, let alone left wing ones. Apparently, according to this study, people who get their news from Breitbart, that's where they will stay.

So, sadly, they probably have NEVER EVEN HEARD the stuff we heard all through the campaign. They are truly in a bubble.

That is what we must change. We need a new fairness doctrine.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
16. Roughly 26% of America is barely sentient.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 04:09 AM
Mar 2017

These people are truly lost causes, despite what the white knights on this forum would have the rest of us believe. These people did not reason themselves into the positions they take, so they cannot be reasoned out of those positions. And like the Terminator, they don't feel pity or remorse, and they absolutely WILL NOT STOP until we are all dead.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
19. We Are Seeing The Huge Cost Of Dumb
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 03:16 PM
Mar 2017

I believe it was author Robert Heinlein who said never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

And now we have Chitolini guess that proves Heinlein correct.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
22. I've been saying that since the GE started
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 07:31 PM
Mar 2017

I live in red FL. I know them well. You cannot fix stupid.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
23. The Trumpsters are breaking new ground every day.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 07:34 PM
Mar 2017



Just when I start thinking they can't top themselves they go ahead and surprise me.

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