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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThank you administrators. I never expected to see a defense of Trump's ersatz Muslim Ban here.
The reason it is being continually struck down is because justices are looking at the legislative intent of the framers of the order and the primary intent in their eyes is to ban Muslims:
Watson agreed that its wrong to undertake a judicial psychoanalysis of a drafters heart of hearts, but he said he didnt have to. There is nothing veiled about this press release: Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States, the judge wrote. He continued:
Nor is there anything secret about the Executives motive specific to the issuance of the Executive Order: Rudolph Giuliani explained on television how the Executive Order came to be. He said: When [Mr. Trump] first announced it, he said, Muslim ban. He called me up. He said, Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.
On February 21, 2017, commenting on the then-upcoming revision to the Executive Order, the Presidents Senior Adviser, Stephen Miller, stated, Fundamentally, [despite technical revisions meant to address the Ninth Circuits concerns in Washington,] youre still going to have the same basic policy outcome [as the first].
These plainly worded statements, made in the months leading up to and contemporaneous with the signing of the Executive Order, and, in many cases, made by the Executive himself, betray the Executive Orders stated secular purpose. Any reasonable, objective observer would conclude, as does the Court for purposes of the instant Motion for TRO, that the stated secular purpose of the Executive Order is, at the very least, secondary to a religious objective of temporarily suspending the entry of Muslims.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/after-travel-ban-setback-trump-further-undermines-his-case.html
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Naming the person would be a clear violation of the rules of this board and gratuitously mean. Hopefully the poster has seen the error of his or her ways.
Coventina
(27,116 posts)I have a student who is directly affected by the ban.
It totally sucks.....
I would have liked to give them a piece of my mind!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Dershowitz said if President Obama proposed a similar order it would have passed constitutional muster. That is because President Obama didn't promise to ban Muslims from entering the U S.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)It's a xenophobic, unconstitutional piece of crap.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)malaise
(268,987 posts)Funny -this isn't getting coverage anywhere - wonder why? See the last sentence of the snip.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/16/school-shooting-in-french-town-of-grasse-sparks-terror-alert
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Armed teenager arrested after school shooting in French town of Grasse
A 17-year-old pupil has been arrested after a shooting at a high school in the southern French town of Grasse, in which several people were wounded.
The teenager, who was armed with a rifle, two handguns and two grenades, was a student at the Alexis de Tocqueville high school, where he allegedly opened fire, targeting the headteacher.
The interior ministry spokesman Pierre-Henry Brandet said eight people had been injured and it was too early to know the motive behind the attack.
Christian Estrosi, the rightwing head of the Provence-Alpes-Côte dAzur region, said terrorism was not at all the line of investigation in the inquiry.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,312 posts)In The Guardian, as you saw; prominent on the BBC. No one dead, however, and he's already arrested. 6th on CNN International's headlines.