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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:08 AM Mar 2017

Trump when told the biggest losers under 'Trumpcare' would be his own voters: 'Oh, I know'

Trump when told the biggest losers under 'Trumpcare' would be his own voters: 'Oh, I know'
Bob Bryan

President Donald Trump nodded in agreement during a Wednesday interview with Fox News' Tucker Carlson when told the American Health Care Act, the bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, would cause the most damage to people who voted for him in November.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ahca-rural-voters-supporters-tucker-carlson-2017-3

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Trump when told the biggest losers under 'Trumpcare' would be his own voters: 'Oh, I know' (Original Post) workinclasszero Mar 2017 OP
Trump is also on record saying he prefers his voters to be stupid. - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #1
Who knew that a guy like this wouldn't be a hero for the working class? workinclasszero Mar 2017 #3
On a serious note, I think it is important to rescue the distinction between KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #5
Lumpenproletariat equals Fox news and Hate radio brainwashed workinclasszero Mar 2017 #9
That assertion will be tested when Trumpism, left unchecked by KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #10
Well unemployment, zero safety net and starvation may clear their minds of the rebublican propaganda workinclasszero Mar 2017 #12
Breadlines have a remarkable power to clear one's mind of KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #13
I can only hope you are right...but... workinclasszero Mar 2017 #15
The Communist Party in the US made huge electoral gains in KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #17
FDR saved capitalism in the USA back then even though he was and is excoriated by the 1% workinclasszero Mar 2017 #20
In his book "A Bright Shining Lie," Neil Sheehan argues that KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #21
Where there's money to be made workinclasszero Mar 2017 #22
But it gives me hope that, indeed, the capitalists will sell us KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #23
They are feverishly doing that very thing workinclasszero Mar 2017 #24
Lumpenproletariat ditto heads. They don't think it's *them* LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #16
These pictures are so disgusting. Freedomofspeech Mar 2017 #8
They make me sick! smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #19
What is his son sitting on in the second pic? Looks like a hand. nt ecstatic Mar 2017 #11
It really looks like someone is under the table holding him in his chair. Mad-in-Mo Mar 2017 #18
that is his foot. he's sitting on his legs like kellyann KewlKat Mar 2017 #26
he doesn't care, he's never cared. CEO's like him don't give a flying fuck about people. spanone Mar 2017 #2
What does he care? C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #4
Yep..full employment on the front lines in NK workinclasszero Mar 2017 #6
they need janterry Mar 2017 #7
So when do we break out the pitchforks and torches? Initech Mar 2017 #14
K&R ck4829 Mar 2017 #25
Trump voters are the biggest losers under the majority of his proposals. Vinca Mar 2017 #27
 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
5. On a serious note, I think it is important to rescue the distinction between
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:22 AM
Mar 2017
proletariat (worker) and lumpenproletariat (worker who is unlikely ever to achieve class consciousness) from the dustbin of history.

Lumpenproletariat is a term that was originally coined by Karl Marx to describe the layer of the working class that is unlikely ever to achieve class consciousness and is therefore lost to socially useful production, of no use to the revolutionary struggle, and perhaps even an impediment to the realization of a classless society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat


 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
9. Lumpenproletariat equals Fox news and Hate radio brainwashed
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:40 AM
Mar 2017

white working class in this country, well at least 75% or so I'd say.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
10. That assertion will be tested when Trumpism, left unchecked by
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:44 AM
Mar 2017

the Fascists who control the House and Senate, leads to 25% unemployment and a general economic collapse. I neither agree nor disagree with you at this point, preferring to see what happens with your hypothesis under the conditions I have described.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. Well unemployment, zero safety net and starvation may clear their minds of the rebublican propaganda
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:58 AM
Mar 2017

or lead to the first American Reich.

I can't see these people giving up their racial hatred so easily while the republican propaganda organs, Fox, hate radio, the NRA and most likely their republican preacher at the mega church will be spewing out the same lies 24/7 that they want so desperately to believe are true.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. I can only hope you are right...but...
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:07 AM
Mar 2017

These conditions lead to a different outcome in pre-nazi Germany.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
17. The Communist Party in the US made huge electoral gains in
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:09 AM
Mar 2017

the election of 1932 (when unemployment reached 25%).

1% of this country's population controls 40% of its wealth and 10% control 80% of its wealth.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
20. FDR saved capitalism in the USA back then even though he was and is excoriated by the 1%
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:14 AM
Mar 2017

The wall street gangsters still insist on selling rope to us though.

Go figure.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
21. In his book "A Bright Shining Lie," Neil Sheehan argues that
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:27 AM
Mar 2017

the pre-1965 National Liberation Front in puppet-ruled South Vietnam secured the overwhelming majority of its weapons by either a) capturing them from puppet forces or b) purchasing them on the black market from corrupt puppet officers. Those weapons had been supplied to the puppets by the U.S.

Meaning: the U.S. puppet regime was fighting an NLF . . . armed indirectly by the U.S. taxpayer.

It's as inevitable as the sun rising in the East.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
22. Where there's money to be made
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:43 AM
Mar 2017

All standards, beliefs, morality, etc go out the window for Randian gangster capitalists.

spanone

(135,831 posts)
2. he doesn't care, he's never cared. CEO's like him don't give a flying fuck about people.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:16 AM
Mar 2017

it's all bottom line

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
4. What does he care?
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:20 AM
Mar 2017

These folks are either gonna be working in the sweatshop
making oversized Trump ties or they are useless dead weight.
Emphasis on dead. Like the cannon fodder Trump needs
for his big big bigly war in Asia, coming soon.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
7. they need
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:25 AM
Mar 2017

to package that clip into an ad and run it in every state that voted for him.

It needs to become an iconic reminder of why we shouldn't elect morons.

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