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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/19/white-house-trump-wiretap-uk-ambassador-peter-westmacott<snip>
The former British ambassador to Washington, Sir Peter Westmacott, has issued a withering criticism of Donald Trump and his inner circle, accusing them of making absurd, unthinkable and nonsensical claims about the UKs involvement in alleged wiretapping of Trump Tower that he warns could damage close ties between the two countries.
Writing in the Guardian, Westmacott accuses the White House of not only peddling falsehoods that the British intelligence agency GCHQ assisted then president Barack Obama in tapping Trumps New York phones, but of potentially harming intelligence cooperation across the Atlantic.
This is a dangerous game, Westmacott writes. The intelligence relationship between Britain and America is unique and precious. It is critical to our shared efforts to counter terrorism.
Westmacott adds that gratuitously damaging it by peddling falsehoods and then doing nothing to set the record straight would be a gift to our enemies they could only dream of.
His unrestrained putdown of Trumps refusal to correct the unsubstantiated wiretapping allegations which Westmacott ascribes acerbically to the presidents famous reluctance to admit mistakes is a clear indication of the intensity of British anger at having been dragged into what is seen as a controversy entirely of Trumps own making.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,611 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Dump is going through them like a runaway train bent on destruction.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Sir Donald?
malaise
(268,980 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)pervert he is
malaise
(268,980 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)were they..............well, were they..................?
malaise
(268,980 posts)<snip>
Only weeks after her death in 1997, Trump was already making claims about the likelihood that Princess Diana would have succumbed to his charms, according to journalist Michael D'Antonio's book The Truth About Trump. On Dateline NBC, host Stone Phillips asked if Trump thought he would have had a chance with Diana if he had asked her out. The businessman confidently replied, "I think so, yeah. I always have a shot."
Trump repeated this claim on Howard Stern's show that year. In audio recordings dug up by BuzzFeed, Stern asked about his chances with the princess. "You could've gotten her, right? You could've nailed her," Stern queried. "I think I could've," Trump replied.
The mogul's attraction to the princess began long before her death, however. British reporter Selina Scott told D'Antonio that Princess Diana, her friend, had received bouquets of flowers from the self-described billionaire prior to officially divorcing Prince Charles in 1996. Scott's advice to Diana? "I told her to just bin the lot," she said to D'Antonio. Last year, Britain's Sunday Times reported that as the bouquets "piled up," Scott said "it had begun to feel as if Trump was stalking her."
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)One shot in a trillion perhaps, but a shot.
Trump is a pig. It is not an act, he is simply a pig. And many people apparently like that in a President.
malaise
(268,980 posts)although that's an insult to pigs
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)I apologize and meant no disrespect to pigs or pork products.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)murielm99
(30,737 posts)and in the past, we have raised hogs (on a limited basis, no large confinement barns).
They are intelligent animals. However, the women around here use that expression to describe men like Trump. We know it is is just a way to describe greedy, usually unattractive men who think they are entitled to do anything they want to a woman.
Yes, Trump is a pig.
malaise
(268,980 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)of Princess Di. She thought him creepy and he thought that he could score with her. He has always been delusional.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)She chose a Muslim over the Donald? Sweet. Dodi Al Fayed, an Egyptian billionaire Muslim. Hmmm...makes one wonder if that's where his hatred of Muslims comes from.
avebury
(10,952 posts)who she really really wanted to marry.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)nocalflea
(1,387 posts)klook
(12,154 posts)malaise
(268,980 posts)CitizenZero
(525 posts)He has alienated our own Intelligence Services, and is now insulting and alienating our key Allies. Trump and his People think that they do not need State Department Foreign Service Officers, CIA operatives, or British Allies. The destructive attitude towards our Friends and Allies is reckless bordering on Treasonous.
The Trump Regime operates like a Banana Republic Junta, a Petty Dictatorship, not the Federal Government and the Leading Superpower in the World. They are grossly incompetent and a threat to our National Security.
Our message to Britain and their Intelligence Community should be that Real Americans support them, and that Trump and his People are not Patriots, not Real Americans, and do not legitimately represent the American People, our Government, and our Intelligence Agencies.
GWC58
(2,678 posts)of his way not to criticize Putin, or the Russians!
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)No one wants him around.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)No one wants to be around a creep.
rurallib
(62,413 posts)malaise
(268,980 posts)rurallib
(62,413 posts)Her health is beginning to fail as she nears ninety, but by damn she hates Trump.
I said I want to live long enough to see Trump behind bars and she said real loudly "ME TOO!"
malaise
(268,980 posts)and sick - tell her she'll make it - I just want to hear America and the planet collectively shout YOU"RE FIRED !
GWC58
(2,678 posts)the southern border.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)He'd better build an nuclear impenetrable dome over the whole country.
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grantcart
(53,061 posts)Turns out America First doesn't do much overseas except generate angry crowds, huge crowds.
malaise
(268,980 posts)He's insufferable
NBachers
(17,108 posts)His visit to England has been moved back from June to August or September. His visit is supposed to trigger the largest protests England has ever seen.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)for another 3 years 10 months.
Problem solved!
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...do you mean the visit to the Queen? Hope you're right. The legitimatizing of him by that trip was unbearable.
Should have been cancelled by her the minute he discriminated against Muslims, IMO.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)One must be smart enough to understand what the English mean when they speak their own language.
I suppose none of the fucking Deplorables (either in the WH or in the countryside) have the first damned clue. MI6 is nobody to fuck around with; they mean it.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)had much, much better taste in men. And, remember that she was involved with Pakistani heart surgeon Dr. Hasnat Khan, by all accounts the love of her life. Very touching. He was a serious-minded humanitarian. After someone like that, no way would she go with the hideous, shallow, self-absorbed con.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)saying that all the time. Its so true yet so civilized
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Takket
(21,564 posts)and the sad thing is it reads like the plot of a poorly written political intrigue novel with a story that has been rehashed a thousand times, and still the country is blind to what is going on.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That he IS the pocket of Putin, and that our country is in the hands of Russia. Just from what is going on.
Takket
(21,564 posts)I don't think even Russia believed things could work out for them as well as they have. maybe even too well, to the point that their meddling has been brought front and center. The damage being done to US relations strengthens Russia on the world stage but an article i read here a few weeks ago made a lot of sense........ that putin hated clinton, so he tried to help trump, but even putin never believed the US would be stupid enough to elect Trump. All putin wanted was to weaken clinton by bogging her down with nonsense controversies (the emails) to hurt her presidency, thus strengthening Russia. Putin assumed no serious investigation would ever be made into his meddling because once Clinton won, it would be forgotten. But drumpf won and now Putin's meddling is brought to the forefront.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Putin had to know America would investigate the hacking and figure it out. But that it would become this big a deal, and we'd catch the communications with Trump's team, or care, maybe Putin didn't count on that.
But then Putin doesn't understand the regard that America has for the integrity and protection of its democracy. At least I'm HOPING the powers that be have that regard.
But yeah...I doubt Putin thought that Trump would actually win. I doubt that even Trump thought he'd win.
CitizenZero
(525 posts)I think you are right. Putin did not expect Clinton to lose and now he (Putin) is exposed to the whole world. The more the Russian connection is in the news, the tougher it is for Putin, I think. KGB Agents prefer to work in the darkness.
irisblue
(32,973 posts)British English will have to be translated to that MFer. He barely speaks American English.
malaise
(268,980 posts)LOL
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)I'm guessing he's already started another book.
malaise
(268,980 posts)Would make a great spy movie
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)Trumps promise to Putin is to weaken America and its allies as much as possible for Putins help with tipping the election and the billions of under the table dollars.
All these faux pas with other countries are not faux pas at all, but insults and betrayals to please Putin.
Time for someone to do something to stop this saboteur before it is too late.
spanone
(135,831 posts)malaise
(268,980 posts)<snip>
The bizarre allegations did not come courtesy of Vladimir Putin. Their source was not a mayhem-spreading autocrat eager to drive a wedge between firm democratic allies. No, they came directly from the White House itself.
On Thursday, in a surreal news briefing, Press Secretary Sean Spicer amplified on the presidents claim that his predecessor in the Oval Office had wiretapped the phones of then-candidate Trump. Reading from statements made by a commentator on Fox News, Spicer claimed that Obama didnt use the NSA, he didnt use the CIA, he didnt use the FBI and he didnt use the Department of Justice. He used GCHQ the Government Communications Headquarters, the British intelligence agency.
The response from Britain has been a tad more vehement than what weve come to expect from our friends across the pond. Complete garbage rubbish, said the former chairman of the British Parliaments intelligence committee. Nonsense utterly ridiculous, declared the GCHQ.
Incredibly, Trump has never had to pay a political price for his malign speech, shameless evasions and legion lies. To the contrary. By treating words as potent and weightless potent, as tools to skewer opponents; and weightless, without lasting consequence he greased his way to a spectacular political rise.
Until now. In the past three days, in the worlds of law and diplomacy, the president has been confronted with the consequences of his inflammatory speech. On Wednesday, Judge Derrick Watson issued a temporary restraining order blocking the administrations revamped travel ban.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)....of a petty dictator. He even tried to drag Britain into the mud and gutter with him.
Why would he get any special government or royal welcomes for that?
gopiscrap
(23,759 posts)Most of Europe hates him
nolabear
(41,960 posts)I want to disinfect the government, throw open the windows and smudge the place for good measure!
lark
(23,099 posts)Drumpf didn't make the claims by accident and wasn't hateful to Merkel on a whim either. He's deliberately destroying our relationships with our strongest allies, those who could make Russia pay if they attack other European countries. He's doing what Pootie tells him so he can get the big payoff he was promised. Of course, Putin is more likely to release the "secret" videotapes to hurt us even more, after he's gotten everything he wants from Drumpf, than he is to pay him off.