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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRural Georgia Trump voters railed against Obamacare - but just realized Trumpcare will be worse
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/rural-georgia-trump-voters-railed-against-obamacare-but-just-realized-trumpcare-will-be-worse/
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution profiled many rural Georgians who stand to lose if the president signs Trumpcare.
Kenneth Peek, a Georgia farmer, who is now on Obamacare, thought Trump would get things straightened out. However, hes now understanding things might get worse. Under the proposed law, thousands of rural Georgians, who voted overwhelmingly for Trump, stand to lose their health insurance or their hospitals and, for many, their costs will increase.
Peek currently pays $281 a month for his Obamacare policy, which is $3,372 a year. He gets $11,172 in government tax credits, while his wife is on disability. Under Trumpcare his tax credit would drop 64 percent to $7,172 and theres no real way of knowing how insurance companies will drop premiums or continue the upward climb. While Obamacare gave subsidies based on need, Trumpcare will give tax credits based on age. So, a 50-year-old CEO who makes $850,000 each year would get the same amount as a 50-year-old teacher who makes $35,000 each year.
During the 2016 campaign, however, Trump promised voters good coverage at much less cost and a much better health care plan for much less money. This week, Trump was singing a different tune.
Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)Stuart G
(38,420 posts)and many believed those lies...but now...we all see the truth...
They lied......
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)She is another lazy taker. Sell your IPhone, farmer's wife, and buy insurance.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)The republicans are the abusers, and the voters are the abusees. All the classic signs of an abusive relationship are there. The GOP has held this country hostage for the last 40 years and demonizing anybody that isn't them. They all but finished the job this year. How much more of the abusers' shit are we going to put up with before we say enough is enough?
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...and Trump is still going backstage to "inspect the merchandise."
The attitude he had toward them is the attitude he has toward America.
You see these incredible looking women I sort of get away with things like that.
Bryce CovertFollow
Economic Editor at ThinkProgress
Oct 12, 2016
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-beauty-pageants-naked-2dc4b6c6d507#.smzggmbms
On an appearance on The Howard Stern Show in 2005, published on Sunday by CNN, Trump described going backstage at the beauty pageants while the contestants were undressed. Before a show, Ill go backstage and everyones getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, he said. You know, Im inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good.
You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody okay? he continued. And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that.
According to interviews BuzzFeed News conducted with former Miss Teen USA contestants, Trump did just that in 1997. Four women who were competing in the pageant that year including one who was 15 at the time recalled that Trump walked into the dressing area while they were changing.
One of them called it shocking and creepy and said she rushed to cover herself. Another recalled that the contestants were just scrambling to grab stuff whatever garments they had.
IdiotsforPalin
(170 posts)bdamomma
(63,845 posts)don't they realize they were BS'ed by this idiot man. Obamacare is the ACA. Don't they realize that also?
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)I don't know...I didn't write the article so I also didn't do the math.
$11,172 x .65 = $7,261.80
Squinch
(50,949 posts)A drop of 65% would be 11,172 x .35.
If it dropped 65% it would have to be less than half of the original, no?
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Either way, whatever the author intended, their math isn't right.
If it actually dropped BY 65%, the correct number would be $3910.20
If it dropped TO 65%, it would be $7,261.80.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)He would get a $4,000 tax credit instead of the over $11k from Obamacare. a loss of over $7k. Vis a Vis 64%.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)LOL Lib
(1,462 posts)Either starve to death paying for healthcare or die with a full tummy and no healthcare. THANKS TRUMP!
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Ain't it grand?!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The campaign pitch can't be all that difficult, and even the lowest information voter will get it: The Democrats got you health care insurance at $281 a month, even with a disabled wife. The Republicans want you to pay a lot more, and they would greatly prefer that your wife die before sucking up any more health care benefits.
Think a town hall meeting or two in that District might not find a more receptive audience for the Democratic platform?
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)If you look at ANY "red" Facebook page and read the comments, too many people are still on the Trump train.
The ONLY Facebook pages I follow are Fox and Hannity, and that's only because I want to know how Trump is being spun and how Trump voters are reacting to it.
The responses are often too crazy to post here, plus it would break the "don't spread right wing talking points" rule.
I don't go anywhere near Breitbart, Info Wars, etc.
My gut is telling me that too many Trump voters are writing these things off as "fake news." When more of them actually feel the impact, when more of them join the "You LIED to me" chorus, they'll be looking for an alternative. For many of them it will be too late, but the ones left standing won't be thinking "second term."
And yeah, when it all blows up, Trump will blame Obama for all of it. He'll continue to make wild accusations with no basis in reality, he'll keep a "provocative" news cycle in perpetual motion, and he'll keep making those weekend trips to Mar-a-Lago.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Appear there with a local politician, and talk up the Democratic agenda. Talk to the newspapers, television and radio reporters. Generate some excitement and give the Democrats in the area a shot in the arm, let them know they're not forgotten.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)That ass tRumputin's teeing up the "I blame Obama for fill in the blank___________________on steroids. Everything he & pres. bannon destroys is Pres. Obama's fault, and you know some hell many tRumputin idiots will believe his lies because they so hate that blah man.
They'll be occupying the gutter with the rest of us after tRumputn/pres. bannon blows everything up, and even STILL some won't mind--just as long as blacks and browns are in the gutter. I wish there was some way only those who voted for and believed in tRumputin could catch hell. Unfortunately, those who didn't vote for the turd all across this country will be forced to suffer right along with them.
adigal
(7,581 posts)of the blue states.
Within a decade, Trumpcare and budget cuts are going to kill them all.
Sad!
brer cat
(24,561 posts)you believe the blue parts will be magically exempt from the pain and suffering. Here in GA many of those "rural parts" are heavily populated by very loyal Democrats. They are also going to lose their healthcare, their small community hospitals, their foreign-born physicians, and their safety net. And the urban dwellers will lose the agricultural products they depend on from these rural areas.
adigal
(7,581 posts)And I know Dems will be hurt too. That is why I am starting to think blue states will need to band together. Maybe my redneck neighbors will move to red states and maybe Dems from red states can move here. Cause this is not working at all for blue states.
brer cat
(24,561 posts)But I will pass on moving. I will stay in my red state and continue working to turn it blue, which it will.
we can do it
(12,184 posts)Too bad their stupidity affects us all.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Maybe think before you vote in 3 1/2 years
TS= tough shit. It was a law school term when that was the outcome of the case, as it is here w the Georgia trumpsters.
I do resent that the rich Repubs in Congress and the Prez, w fully paid excellent health care benefits, continue to swindle these ignorant people.
we can do it
(12,184 posts)Really finding it hard to care about people who shoot themselves and everyone else down because they refuse to believe facts.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)So the CLOWN votes for Trump and now it will be $1,000-$1200 per month IF he can find someone to insure him. You know...all those pesky herbicides and insecticides he comes in contact with.
Good luck bud...NO sympathy here!!
we can do it
(12,184 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)even the math is wrong
Takket
(21,563 posts)If these dopes actually educated themselves instead of believing 45 would do these things that he offered no plan for, we wouldn't be in this mess as a country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)Come on, Americans!
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NewRedDawn
(790 posts)History of backing traitors for the last 160 yrs.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)But the Repubs also swindled them.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)These people were lied to. Myths about the "liberal media", while Fox NC was straight-up lying.
Blue_Warrior
(135 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)I didn't support him then, but I do now. Still, I have much respect for Hillary.
I'll probably be alerted on again. I'm not rehashing the fucking primary. I just think Bernie is being a really good leader right now.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Now these Trump voters/victims can throw off the chains of the dreaded Obamacare and breath the fresh clean air of FREEDUMB coming under Trumpcare and the republicans!
No more worries about paying for health care because they wont be able to afford it and God forbid if they or their loved ones have a pre-existing condition, why no amount of $$$ will get you coverage then!
When Trump said insurance for all he meant all RICH PEOPLE you stupid dumb BASTARDS!
We tried to warn you assholes!
Azathoth
(4,608 posts)The choice is obvious: one side is helping them, the other side is quite literally feeding them into a meat grinder for the benefit of a handful of super-rich. Surely, after they suffer enough, they will see the error of their ways, right? Nope. Liberals have been giving themselves false hope with this nonsense for generations.
These peoples' votes weren't determined by rational self-interest; they were determined by culture and identity politics. No matter how badly Trumpcare screws them, they will blame the Democrats and the minorities and the big-city elitists. There is no way they will begin voting for the party that supports gay marriage and poor Mexican immigrants and hot lunches for poor "urban" (wink wink) schoolkids.
Cha
(297,180 posts)time trump voters and vote their agenda out!!
HAB911
(8,890 posts)tough shit
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)traitorous cretins Seceded. We would be smaller but a more prosperous progressive nation today.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)ck4829
(35,069 posts)I am sure individual Trump voters will have regrets but I am starting to think Trump supporters as a whole will gladly have their eye gouged out by any man who says he will make liberals, Muslims, immigrants, minorities, and other 'others' feel pain later on.