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Last edited Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:48 AM - Edit history (1)
I watched him today. He's so very nice, too nice. After watching for awhile, I was repelled because he was being too comradely, too 'hail fellow well met'. Maybe because I wouldn't trust that in a normal person, I don't trust him.
Ugh.
JHan
(10,173 posts)Warpy
(111,256 posts)He ruled that a truck driver didn't have the right to life, that his duty was to stay on the job and die in the process.
JHan
(10,173 posts)There's a trend:
the rest: 7 Things You Need to Know About Supreme Court Nominee Neil Gorsuch
He reminds me in some ways of Roberts.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...Roberts.
Just sent a copy of your post and link to Senator Franken. He probably already knows about these cases but just in case.
Thanks for posting.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Fake fake fake.
Raster
(20,998 posts)strongermessage
(284 posts)If he was any good, he would not have been nominated.
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)onecaliberal
(32,858 posts)dalton99a
(81,486 posts)mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Even for regular times that seems very fast. Democratic senators need to stop this moving train now.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)Kath2
(3,074 posts)I don't trust him at all. At heart, I believe he is too corporation-friendly and an anti-choice extremist.
dchill
(38,489 posts)batch of Walmart sugar cookies.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)dchill
(38,489 posts)rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)babylonsister
(171,065 posts)be addressed, and it is. Recent progress is breakneck for politics. Faith!
I don't care who this man is, it is not his seat to take, period.
Stinky The Clown
(67,799 posts)Golly gee.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)I thought of. It's clear that he's not the smartest person in the room, or even the most knowledgeable, but it's also clear that he THINKS he is.
madaboutharry
(40,211 posts)He is putting on a "I could play the dad in a remake of The Brady Bunch" act, but he is a card carrying member of The Federalist Society, loves corporations, and hides behind the word "originalist" which really means "I don't like it when rich white men" have to share power with other people.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Lyings sacks of shits in their confirmation hearings.
old guy
(3,283 posts)livetohike
(22,143 posts)Nick the Lounge Singer. I don't know why
ananda
(28,860 posts).. but doesn't act like a pitbull the way Scalia did.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Cardinal Dolan from New York gives me. Every once in a while the green slimy thing peeps through the exaggeratedly ingratiating façade.
I think they both have dead bodies in their basements.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)... And sick negative feeling I get when I see that "smile".... That something dark is beneath/behind it hidden and nearly impossible to see....but it's there...
Squinch
(50,949 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)and the sincerity of Donald John Trump!
In other words, I wouldn't want to end up in his courtroom--I'd never get any justice, especially against a craporation!
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)And that's not a good thing. Only caught Franken part today and got to see Gorsuch avoid giving any answer of substance.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)For him, the rule of law is more important than justice.
dchill
(38,489 posts)Thank you, Al Franken.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)That is the point of laws. I absolutely want someone on the court who puts the law above all else.
My concern is that he would twist the law to fit his idea of justice. With all the non-answers I remain apprehensive.
(Even with the worries voiced in this thread I'm still very glad we're not facing Pryor)
VOX
(22,976 posts)You'd get a Goresuch. It says the "right things," but what it actually does (and has done) is more of the same RW crap.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Arithmetic...he is in, unless something egregious comes out. All the Dems did an excellent job of reveling some of his biases...for big business, not for little people, willing to leave someone without a remedy...like the freezing guy in the car, and he had other legal options, as Al F, even a non lawyer , pointed out. Favored Hobby Lobby case, putting a corporation's relifious interest over women's right to birth control covered by insurance.
He sounded like he would uphold Roe v Wade.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)They need to stand together and show the nation that Democrats are capable of fighting as hard -- or harder -- for the principles they believe in as DT and his Congressional Cronies are for their insane notions. And that means having enough Democratic Senators commit, NOW, to vote No on Cloture to stop Gorsuch.
We know all we need to know. Not only is Gorsuch completely unacceptable, Republicans CANNOT be allowed to appoint ANYONE other than Garland to the seat that was President Obama's to fill.
Sure, Republicans may "go nuclear" to force him through, but they may find they have as much trouble pulling that off as they are having with repealing ACA. If Dems don't want to be complicit when Gorsuch puts the court back on track to destroying the protections Scalia and Co. didn't managed to destroy already, they need to do EVERYTHING in their power to stop any DT nominee (unless of course DT nominates Garland.)
It's pretty simple. Do Democratic Senators want ours to be the "roll over" party? Or do they want to be the Party of Principle, Strength, and Determination? If they want a Democratic majority in 2018, it BETTER be the latter!
Filibuster is not just the RIGHT thing to do, it is the WINNING thing to do.
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/03/21/25032149/call-patty-murray-and-maria-cantwell-and-ask-them-filibuster-gorsuch
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Someone worse. The odds are it's basic math.
If the Dems want to take him down the toilet, Ill be ok, but given we have the judgment of Al F, Feinstein, Amy K, if they decide to let this one go, I get it.
I'm pissed too about what they did to Obama! Fuck them all!
Squinch
(50,949 posts)agree to wait till the next seat comes up and then seat Garland AND their pick.
Otherwise we should say no to everyone.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Noise about dt not getting to pick because of the cloud on his legitimacy. Very doubtful it will work, but it calls attention to his legitimacy. We need to get that message out there. He is under investigation. Not just him, many in his camp and his administration are under investigation for colluding with a foreign power.
We don't have the votes to win. 3 short.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Amishman
(5,557 posts)Gorsuch's confirmation in exchange for Ginsburg stepping down and Garland taking her seat.
As I voiced in another thread, the risk of getting a Pryor type on the court is just too high.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)ready to go.
Losing Ginsberg and gaining Gorsich would put the court back to 5-4 against sanity.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)In some very important respects, Gorsuch is more extreme than Scalia.
For example, he subscribes to a "non-delegation doctrine" that even Scalia rejected. It's a doctrine that would cripple federal agencies that protect our financial system, consumers, the environment, voting rights, civil rights... on and on. DT is on a mission to "deconstruct" federal protections, but the damage he does is "repairable." Gorsuch could be instrumental in setting precedent that would strip agencies of the authority required to carry out their functions in a way that would live on until saner mind regain the majority on SCOTUS -- i.e., long past DT's tenure in office.
More in this report:
https://americanbridgepac.org/app/uploads/Gorsuch-SCOTUS-Report.pdf
gibraltar72
(7,504 posts)RKP5637
(67,108 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)and likely to be easily intimidated by Trump
But I oppose his nomination because his nomination like the illegitimate President who made it is illegitimate
I want ALL Democrats to vote NO + 2 Republicans so Gorsuch can suffer the humiliation of having the VP come down and break the tie vote.
dalton99a
(81,486 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)GP6971
(31,156 posts)as a dolt45 nominee he doesn't even get to have a smell test.
procon
(15,805 posts)He started his court fiasco and the Senate Republicans vowed that if Hillary Clinton was elected, they would prevent anyone she nominates from being confirmed to fill the current court vacancy, or any future vacancy, until another Republican president was elected
Make them eat their words!
pat_k
(9,313 posts)He goes beyond Corporate personhood. If Corporation or other business entity "believes" in a religion that calls on it's followers to discriminate, they need to be allowed to discriminate, in the name of Religious Freedom. Of course, that is not how it is framed in his legalese, but that is effectively what some of this past decisions boil down to.
A decent article here:
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/03/21/25032149/call-patty-murray-and-maria-cantwell-and-ask-them-filibuster-gorsuch
elfin
(6,262 posts)Couldn't bear the expected downer of this hearing after yesterday, which lent a glimmer of hope.
He is a well-dressed slimeball IMO. He will be worse than Alito for decades to come. I am so sick about this.
Will check in on Franken part. I do love him more and more.
cornball 24
(1,475 posts)hertopos
(833 posts)Ted Bundy.
a Sociopath type who feels very comfortable lying.
Hertopos
madamesilverspurs
(15,801 posts)Also a bit temperamental.
Without doubt, he is a gifted jurist. Problem is, he wasn't chosen to use those gifts against Trump's wishes.
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Tatiana
(14,167 posts)I don't care what people think about Republicans going nuclear. On principle, this nomination should require 60 votes for confirmation and Democrats should vote against him.
delisen
(6,043 posts)protests his ethical standard too much.
When asked what he would have done if Trump asked him to overturn Roe vs Wade, he claimed he would have walked out the door. I find that hard to believe. ;
Also odd the he answered this hypothetical question.
He seems to live in a man's world.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)First the chef 'nails' the live head to a wooden board, Then zippppp.....open !
Guangzhoou chefs do the same thing.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)He also sounded patronizing and condescending when answering Sen. Klobachar's questions. It rubbed me the wrong way.
Peachhead22
(1,078 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:22 AM - Edit history (1)
But if Dem Senators filibuster him, with an eye toward holding out till Trump's impeached. Pence's pick will be far worse.
BTW, did his appearance remind anyone else of Anthony Bordain?
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,748 posts)babylonsister
(171,065 posts)Bourdain relishes getting in people's faces. This guy wants everyone to be his friend.
Peachhead22
(1,078 posts)Strictly his facial features. Nothing to do with his personality or demeanor. I kept watching the hearings and thinking "Man, he looks like some celebrity. But I can't quite figure out who." Then eureka!
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)JimGinPA
(14,811 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)I'd really like to work hard to regain the Senate and do to them what they did to Merrick Garland.
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)MFM008
(19,808 posts)that's all I need to know because not ONE person he has appointed is qualified to be in the position they are in.
littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)He's a prick. Reminds me of Pence.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)That guy needs to be Borked.
nevergiveup
(4,760 posts)nice suit and good hair. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.
kairos12
(12,861 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts).....folksy stories. His sincerity seemed rehearsed and over-scripted. He was acting his idea of a really nice trustable guy and it produced just the opposite effect in me.
Didn't fool Franken.
elmac
(4,642 posts)just like all republiCons
Demonaut
(8,916 posts)BREMPRO
(2,331 posts)Smooth, i'm smarter than you attitude, arrogant, ideologically radical, opportunistic, evasive, fake manekin looks , claims of law is supreme hiding a deeper
Con-servative agenda. Can you tell I don't trust or like him??
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Vinca
(50,271 posts)MineralMan
(146,308 posts)He gave answers that were designed to meet what he thinks are the answers expected from a SCOTUS justice appointee seeking confirmation.
He appears to be a very bright and well-spoken fellow. I don't trust him one little bit, though. Like all Republicans, he speaks to deceive, not to inform.
Rotary President. Seriously. Do a Google Image search for Rotary President. You'll understand what I mean.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)ananda
(28,860 posts)nt